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Over paid/Under paid professions and people

  • 03-09-2013 8:33pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Ive just read that Gareth Bale will be earning £300,000 a week when he makes the move to Real Madrid. Whilst this is what the market dictates I think changing football salaries under a different economic system would benefit the fans in the long run.

    Its insane money.

    What professions and people are over or under paid do you think? And can we preface this with no mention of politicians, thats too easy ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    Underpaid - frontline public workers.

    Overpaid- politicians, bankers, civil service senior managers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    Soccor player is not a profession.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Ive just read that Gareth Bale will be earning £300,000 a week when he makes the move to Real Madrid. Whilst this is what the market dictates I think changing football salaries under a different economic system would benefit the fans in the long run.

    Its insane money.

    If it's anything like the NFL, capping player salaries will only line the pockets of the owners. Fans are unlikely to see any of the savings passed on, unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Underpaid = Healthcare assistants
    Overpaid= Nurses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    Underpaid = Healthcare assistants
    Overpaid= Nurses

    You obviously know nothing about the health sector


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Flying Abruptly


    Overpaid: Consultants. €200 for 5min appointment!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Podgerz


    Soccor player is not a profession.

    Eh...yes it is.

    For example; when my local Monaghan United team went bankrupt the entire panel 30+ lost their jobs. How is this not a profession. Its not just the top level players that get paid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Ive just read that Gareth Bale will be earning £300,000 a week when he makes the move to Real Madrid. Whilst this is what the market dictates I think changing football salaries under a different economic system would benefit the fans in the long run.
    No, it would benefit club owners and Sky/BT/whoever. Nobody bats an eyelid when Hollywood stars get paid €million for the latest blockbuster - why should football stars be any different. In fact given their short playing career and constant risk of serious injury they need to maximise their earnings as much as possible.

    Underpaid: Scientists

    Overpaid: Barristers, Anyone working in HR


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Underpaid = Healthcare assistants
    Overpaid= Nurses

    Uh oh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Superheroes are criminally under paid.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    And you think that football should be run for the benefit of the fans OP?


    HAH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Underpaid: Anyone working in a service industry, childcare workers.

    Overpaid: Some RTE presenters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    If it's anything like the NFL, capping player salaries will only line the pockets of the owners. Fans are unlikely to see any of the savings passed on, unfortunately.

    But the owners could invest the money in bigger pitches, and even bigger goal posts like big tall ones, and introduce a points as well as goals scoring system, they could have 15 players instead of 11. Dublin, Mayo, or Cork could go on to win the Champions League. It would be fantashtic boy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    Underpaid over-estimation of their own specialness - frontline public workers.

    Overpaid- politicians, bankers, civil service senior managers

    Corrected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    You obviously know nothing about the health sector
    I do, my daughter works in it every day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    I do, my daughter works in it every day.

    So your daughter knows about the health sector.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭gowley


    Soccor player is not a profession.

    no but a soccer player is. someone who gets paid to play any sport is a professional


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    Almaviva wrote: »
    Corrected.

    Yeah. Trying to get a rise. Try walkng a mile in their shoes....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    So your daughter knows about the health sector.
    No I do.
    By and large Nurses eat chocolates, read magazines, and order, yes order, others who never get a mention, to do all the jobs for which said "pillow puffers with a degree" get the nations undying thanks and an inflated salary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭chocksaway


    No I do.
    By and large Nurses eat chocolates, read magazines, and order, yes order, others who never get a mention, to do all the jobs for which said "pillow puffers with a degree" get the nations undying thanks and an inflated salary.
    Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Underpaid: Your local IT admin
    Overpaid: The monkey manager who never figured out how to turn on their fcuking computer & instead gives out that its broken :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    No I do.
    By and large Nurses eat chocolates, read magazines, and order, yes order, others who never get a mention, to do all the jobs for which said "pillow puffers with a degree" get the nations undying thanks and an inflated salary.

    I now know for sure you know nothing about the healthcare sector. Nurses are overworked, overpaid and taken for granted by ignorant people who haven't a clue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    No I do.
    By and large Nurses eat chocolates, read magazines, and order, yes order, others who never get a mention, to do all the jobs for which said "pillow puffers with a degree" get the nations undying thanks and an inflated salary.

    Luckily I have only ever been in hospital for a couple of brief stays in my time, but in my experience what you have described could not be further from the truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭gowley


    I now know for sure you know nothing about the healthcare sector. Nurses are overworked, overpaid and taken for granted by ignorant people who haven't a clue

    overworked maybe. overpaid i dont think so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 bbm1


    No I do.
    By and large Nurses eat chocolates, read magazines, and order, yes order, others who never get a mention, to do all the jobs for which said "pillow puffers with a degree" get the nations undying thanks and an inflated salary.

    My mother is a nurse and I can ensure you that is as far from the truth as possible. You forgot to mention the amount of abuse they get on a daily basis including the threat of physical abuse. The back breaking work and the pressure to make sure not one mistake is made when a patients care is at risk.

    I'm assuming your daughter didnt get in to nursing and this is were the giant chip on your shoulder comes from. Lets prey to god you never need the use of these pillow puffers with a degree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    gowley wrote: »
    overworked maybe. overpaid i dont think so

    My bad. Meant underpaid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    darced wrote: »
    From previously working in a hospital myself and a few family members being nurses,the hours are the only problem with nursing,they are well paid for what they do.

    There are vast hours spent drinking coffee and eating biscuits and thats a fact.

    What hospital was that? Cause thats not the majority of wards. That is a fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭gowley


    My bad. Meant underpaid!

    lol i knew that from your previous posts and i agree with you entirely. they do a great job and its only when you are sick you realise that. imo its the consultants and pen pushers who are underworked and overpaid and the nurses are the opposite


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Cant beat a bit of public sector bashing

    ****gets popcorn*****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    darced wrote: »
    From previously working in a hospital myself and a few family members being nurses,the hours are the only problem with nursing,they are well paid for what they do.

    There are vast hours spent drinking coffee and eating biscuits and thats a fact.

    What hospital was that? Cause thats not the majority of wards. That is a fact.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Yellowblackbird


    Nurses.

    They don't even wear the skirts and the little funny hats anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    What the fuk is a vast hour? Anyway, you saw them going on their tea/coffee breaks and lunches, which they require in order to do their job, often a lengthy shift, properly.
    Or maybe your family members don't pull their weight as nurses, but mine sure as hell did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Underpaid: me
    Overpaid: my boss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Eight Ball


    Underpaid: Manual workers

    Overpaid: I.T. workers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    What the fuk is a vast hour?
    :D
    Thank you. Made my day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    gowley wrote: »
    no but a soccer player is. someone who gets paid to play any sport is a professional


    Never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Underpaid: IT sales people

    Overpaid; IT sales boss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭gowley


    What the fuk is a vast hour? Anyway, you saw them going on their tea/coffee breaks and lunches, which they require in order to do their job, often a lengthy shift, properly.
    Or maybe your family members don't pull their weight as nurses, but mine sure as hell did.

    you last sentence speaks volumes. in any profession you get the lazy type


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Underpaid: Everyone who works in retail dealing with customers first hand.
    Done it once for about 6-7 months, will never ever do it again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    No I do.
    By and large Nurses eat chocolates, read magazines, and order, yes order, others who never get a mention, to do all the jobs for which said "pillow puffers with a degree" get the nations undying thanks and an inflated salary.

    Oh where to start. Your daughter is either working in a place where the nurses are extremely lazy or you're full of shiite. As for for healthcare assistants being underpaid and nurses overpaid?
    I told this before, I was working on a ward, not too long ago. My wage per hour was €14 an hour flat, time and a quarter on a Sunday. All but none of the HCAs and domestic staff on that ward earned more than me. I could be working on that ward as the only nurse, with 5 HCAs and two domestic staff and if anything went wrong, the buck stopped with me. It was my PIN number gone whilst being the lowest paid member if staff, I had all the responsibility. And that wouldn't be a solitary case.

    I don't know your daughter's situation Sir, but your notion of front line staff in a hospital is severely skewed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    Well I regularly visited a family member who landed herself in hospital a while back and on every visit the nurses I saw hardly had a moment spare. In spite of this they were friendly and professional.
    Methinks you talk out of your arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    This is escalating quickly, I'm just gonna get in a quick post here now before it's a 20 page thread about Nurses and their wages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    SV wrote: »
    This is escalating quickly, I'm just gonna get in a quick post here now before it's a 20 page thread about Nurses and their wages.

    And I'm gonna get a post in now before people who think they know everything about the health service get tired of nurse bashing and decide they now know everything about the education sector to bash teachers.

    Underpaid: Nurses
    Overpaid: Prostitutes. Sex should be free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭gowley


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    dont think its the majority maybe its just you and your two family members who are too lazy to attend to the sick people on your wards and only work for half your shifts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    No I do.
    By and large Nurses eat chocolates, read magazines, and order, yes order, others who never get a mention, to do all the jobs for which said "pillow puffers with a degree" get the nations undying thanks and an inflated salary.

    i dont know what hospitals these nurses are in but ive spent a lot of time in hospital over the last few years and theres no money you could pay me that would make me do the work they do. there are definitely some nurses who work harder than others but overall the things they do and have to put up with from abusive patients etc is incredible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Monster229


    I wouldn't work in a hospital for any money, those nurses are underpaid bloody saints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭gowley


    Real Life wrote: »
    i dont know what hospitals these nurses are in but ive spent a lot of time in hospital over the last few years and theres no money you could pay me that would make me do the work they do. there are definitely some nurses who work harder than others but overall the things they do and have to put up with from abusive patients etc is incredible

    you always get the few lazy ones and there seems to be one or two on this thread.


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