Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod request post#5808

hefferboi · 03-09-2013 04:08PM

T-K-O wrote: »

Yup, I think Borini will surprise a few.

I really hope so tbh. Seems like a good lad and obviously naturally talented but he's been really unlucky with injuries.

5starpool · 03-09-2013 04:08PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Our next few fixtures are

Swansea (A)
Southampton (H)
Sunderland (A)
Crystal Palace (H)
Newcastle (A)

Am i being ambitious in thinking that we could get 13 points out of a possible 15 from those games we have coming up? Is 15 points out of the question considering the start we have had?

Or am I away with the fairies?

If we get 10 from those I'll be satisfied, although more is possible of course. We could just as likely have a bit of a mare though and only pick up 4 or 5 points to deflate the bubble somewhat.

PhiloCypher · 03-09-2013 04:10PM

Mickalus wrote: »

Watching the goal against united again and Agger has a right head on him. "That f'kn poacher just nabbed my goal!!!!"

Saw that too and loved it , our defenders are really attacking the ball in both boxes and only for the post the bar and Sturridge both Toure and Agger would have two goals apiece.

Outkast_IRE · 03-09-2013 04:12PM

5starpool wrote: »

If we get 10 from those I'll be satisfied, although more is possible of course. We could just as likely have a bit of a mare though and only pick up 4 or 5 points to deflate the bubble somewhat.

12 or more and I would be delighted, every match should be a must win and I hope the teams mental attitude suggests that after the break.

hefferboi · 03-09-2013 04:12PM

Gbear wrote: »

Or failing that he shows he's worth a few bob, maybe gets an Italy cap or 2 and we can sell him for at least the amount we paid for him.

I'd prefer to see him stay but if he doesn't show anything then I hope we get as close to what we paid for him as we can. Highly thought of in Italy. I reckon Roma wouldn't be long spending 10m to take him back.

dzer2 · 03-09-2013 04:13PM

5starpool wrote: »

If we get 10 from those I'll be satisfied, although more is possible of course. We could just as likely have a bit of a mare though and only pick up 4 or 5 points to deflate the bubble somewhat.

Which game do you see Liverpool losing

T-K-O · 03-09-2013 04:16PM

hefferboi wrote: »

I really hope so tbh. Seems like a good lad and obviously naturally talented but he's been really unlucky with injuries.

That is the litmus test for him. He needs to stay fit. I was impressed with him at the tail end of last season and also for Italy.

Gbear · 03-09-2013 04:17PM

dzer2 wrote: »

Which game do you see Liverpool losing

It's not that simple.

Over five or six games that all look guaranteed wins, chances are we'll lose one and draw one, even if our form is very good. Hard to pick which one because it's often down to how the teams feel on the day.

Otherwise City would win the league with 114 points this year.

mike65 · 03-09-2013 04:18PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Our next few fixtures are

Swansea (A)
Southampton (H)
Sunderland (A)
Crystal Palace (H)
Newcastle (A)

Am i being ambitious in thinking that we could get 13 points out of a possible 15 from those games we have coming up? Is 15 points out of the question considering the start we have had?

Or am I away with the fairies?

Frankly I'd be looking at a full house for that run. Any points dropped would be disappointing. Swansea have been in and out so far, Soton looking less than expansive, Sunderland are a team that suggest they could collapse with a shove (anyone know if Borini will be allowed to play against LFC?), Palace have so many new players (ie just about everyone) its ridiculous and Newcastle are Newcastle.

asdfgh86 · 03-09-2013 04:19PM

dzer2 wrote: »

Which game do you see Liverpool losing

If you take each game individually you'd probably say they are all games we should be winning. But winning all 5 in a row is a different prospect.

Edit: What Gbear said

audman · 03-09-2013 04:22PM

Gbear wrote: »

It's not that simple.

Over five or six games that all look guaranteed wins, chances are we'll lose one and draw one, even if our form is very good. Hard to pick which one because it's often down to how the teams feel on the day.

Otherwise City would win the league with 114 points this year.

Impossible, they've lost to Cardiff, so 111 points.

audman · 03-09-2013 04:24PM

Lets take it game by game lads, it seems easier

Not 5 at a time.

5starpool · 03-09-2013 04:24PM

dzer2 wrote: »

Which game do you see Liverpool losing

In theory they could lose any of them. On paper Liverpool will be favourites for all of those games, but who knows. We haven't exactly been renowned for our decisiveness in recent years. I will be disappointed to lose any of them, but with football you can never tell. We might be doing well so far, but we are not one of the big hitters in terms of realistically thinking we will get 13/15 or better from those 5 games, with any real level of confidence anyhow.

We really need to be in great shape ahead of the City and Spurs away games in December as that marks when our season goes from the 'easier' on paper games to the more difficult ones in general, whereas before that, the big majority of the games were ones we should expect to win. I think we should be aiming to have 32+ points from the 15 games up to that point which would put us in a good position to hopefully keep the top 4 challenge going to the end.

MR NINE · 03-09-2013 04:25PM

Over the next six games, Swansea away is the only one that should cause us problems. Southampton are a solid side but we should be able to beat them with home advantage. Sunderland & Newcastle are two of the worst, sloppiest teams in the league, ill be disappointed if we don't beat them both. that leaves palace & hull at home, once again both should be won if we have any aspirations of top four. We should get minimum 14 points from the next 18, anything less would be a wasted opportunity to push on from our excellent start. I firmly believe 6 wins is possible, though at least one slip up has to be expected I guess. I don't think any team will have an easier run of fixtures this season than we do with those 6 games

Mickalus · 03-09-2013 04:25PM

Shelvey to get at least a yellow card for the Swansea game if he's fit. I can see him flying into tackles all over the place.

If we can convert a poor performance into a win or at worst a draw we'll be doing well. Kolo's untouchables Mark II

audman · 03-09-2013 04:32PM

MR NINE wrote: »

Over the next six games, Swansea away is the only one that should cause us problems. Southampton are a solid side but we should be able to beat them with home advantage. Sunderland & Newcastle are two of the worst, sloppiest teams in the league, ill be disappointed if we don't beat them both. that leaves palace & hull at home, once again both should be won if we have any aspirations of top four. We should get minimum 14 points from the next 18, anything less would be a wasted opportunity to push on from our excellent start. I firmly believe 6 wins is possible, though at least one slip up has to be expected I guess. I don't think any team will have an easier run of fixtures this season than we do with those 6 games

Can anyone else see Newcastle getting relegated this year or at least coming very close? They were reasonably lucky last year and the way the finished the season was very poor, particularly the hammering against us. Joe Kinnear isn't exactly helping things either and Pardew (that 8 year contract really was ridiculous) combined it's all a little messy at the moment isn't it? With no signings bar Remy it's hard to see them going much better than last season unless there's one or two brought in in January. That said, the potential is there and I'm probably way off.

But ya, we should bear them

Swansea away will be the hardest I'd imagine and they're not exactly showing the same form as this time last season. Palace and Southampton might is a potential banana skin if they were away but I'd imagine it being a home fixture the win should come handy.

dzer2 · 03-09-2013 04:36PM

5starpool wrote: »

In theory they could lose any of them. On paper Liverpool will be favourites for all of those games, but who knows. We haven't exactly been renowned for our decisiveness in recent years. I will be disappointed to lose any of them, but with football you can never tell. We might be doing well so far, but we are not one of the big hitters in terms of realistically thinking we will get 13/15 or better from those 5 games, with any real level of confidence anyhow.

We really need to be in great shape ahead of the City and Spurs away games in December as that marks when our season goes from the 'easier' on paper games to the more difficult ones in general, whereas before that, the big majority of the games were ones we should expect to win. I think we should be aiming to have 32+ points from the 15 games up to that point which would put us in a good position to hopefully keep the top 4 challenge going to the end.

I was only asking as I would think that Liverpool would be targeting 5 wins
I know that they will take one game at a time. The one I would see as a banana skin would be swansea. After that Southampton at home needs to be a win then Luis is back and the other 3 teams are after having a poor enough start and have bought a lot of players apart from newcastle who have a poor record against liverpool.

Raif Severance · 03-09-2013 04:36PM

audman wrote: »

Can anyone else see Newcastle getting relegated this year or at least coming very close? They were reasonably lucky last year and the way the finished the season was very poor, particularly the hammering against us. Joe Kinnear isn't exactly helping things either and Pardew (that 8 year contract really was ridiculous) combined it's all a little messy at the moment isn't it? With no signings bar Remy it's hard to see them going much better than last season unless there's one or two brought in in January. That said, the potential is there and I'm probably way off.

But ya, we should bear them Swansea away will be the hardest I'd imagine and they're not exactly showing the same form as this time last season. Palace and Southampton might is a potential banana skin if they were away but I'd imagine it being a home fixture the win should come handy.

Newcastle and WBA are my Relegation Candidates this season.

PhiloCypher · 03-09-2013 04:37PM

audman wrote: »

Lets take it game by game lads, it seems easier Not 5 at a time.

Easier said then done during an international break ,the mind tends to wander.

audman · 03-09-2013 04:38PM

Raif Severance wrote: »

Newcastle and WBA are my Relegation Candidates this season.

West Brom? Interesting choice but I won't disagree just yet, I'm listening

03-09-2013 04:39PM

Almost every time last year on here when someone brought up what we should get from the next 5/6 matches etc we were disappointed, sometimes very badly so.

No match is easy in the league and tbh, we aren't exactly playing great stuff so I can't see how any of those matches would be easy.

audman · 03-09-2013 04:39PM

PhiloCypher wrote: »

Easier said then done during an international break ,the mind tends to wander.

True, get out the FF and start wildcarding

Courtesy Flush · 03-09-2013 04:43PM

Watching the United game again. Lucas spent a lot of the time fouling and giving away frees. He should be able to tackle better as a DM. No need to hack opponents down

hefferboi · 03-09-2013 04:43PM

audman wrote: »

Can anyone else see Newcastle getting relegated this year or at least coming very close? They were reasonably lucky last year and the way the finished the season was very poor, particularly the hammering against us. Joe Kinnear isn't exactly helping things either and Pardew (that 8 year contract really was ridiculous) combined it's all a little messy at the moment isn't it? With no signings bar Remy it's hard to see them going much better than last season unless there's one or two brought in in January. That said, the potential is there and I'm probably way off.

But ya, we should bear them Swansea away will be the hardest I'd imagine and they're not exactly showing the same form as this time last season. Palace and Southampton might is a potential banana skin if they were away but I'd imagine it being a home fixture the win should come handy.

We can swoop for Moussa Sissoko if they do.

Buy all the Sissoko's!

Kerrigooney · 03-09-2013 04:43PM

audman wrote: »

Can anyone else see Newcastle getting relegated this year or at least coming very close?

Dunno but if they do I would love it. Absolutely love it

I can't stand Pardew.

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hefferboi · 03-09-2013 04:44PM

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

Watching the United game again. Lucas spent a lot of the time fouling and giving away frees. He should be able to tackle better as a DM. No need to hack opponents down

Alonso used to do it a lot aswell.

mrsoundie · 03-09-2013 04:45PM

This is not fair, I turn my back for a day and its a new thread and a cart load of posts to read.

03-09-2013 04:45PM

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

Watching the United game again. Lucas spent a lot of the time fouling and giving away frees. He should be able to tackle better as a DM. No need to hack opponents down

I thought he was one of our best players on the day. He did give away fouls but broke up so much of Utds play it wasn't funny.

PRAF · 03-09-2013 04:45PM

PhiloCypher wrote: »

Easier said then done during an international break ,the mind tends to wander.

I know its difficult (and maybe it takes some of the fun out of it) but I'm now firmly of the opinion that we're better off taking it one game at a time.

dzer2 · 03-09-2013 04:46PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Almost every time last year on here when someone brought up what we should get from the next 5r/6 matches etc we were disappointed, sometimes very badly so.

No match is easy in the league and tbh, we aren't exactly playing great stuff so I can't see how any of those matches would be easy.

Not an expert but from what I have seen and read Liverpool have played great stuff in the first halves of the games and sat back a bit in the second half.

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