Why Are NightClubs Illegal In Ireland?

Aidric · 31-08-2013 07:36PM

Bit of a nonsense alright. It doesn't have to be a widespread all hours policy but there should at least be an option for nightclubs to avail of an all night licence.

Here in Prague there are a few late night clubs which kick off about 3 and run through to midday. I've rarely ever seen hassle in them apart from some clowns who got ridiculously drunk and had to be turfed out. Adults should have the option to party all night in a controlled licensed premises if they want.

Sinfonia · 31-08-2013 08:03PM

sugarman wrote: »

The whole US/Canada generally close at 2am latest MAYBE a couple of 3am but thats pushing it.

But in the kinds of clubs he's talking about, you could be there until 6/7am.. At least in NYC.
Also, some of the Chicago blues bars are open til 4am weekdays, and 5am at the weekend.
Lousiana and Nevada can be open 24hrs.

Teyla Emmagan · 31-08-2013 08:37PM

Kruse wrote: »

You're getting confused. You said "bar". Yes, but nightclubs are illegal.

THIS is a bar.

http://toocoolforjesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/people-at-Bar2.jpg

THIS is a nightclub. THIS is what is illegal in Ireland.

That looks like my idea of hell.

irishdude11 · 31-08-2013 08:44PM

Kruse wrote: »

Carl Cox played at Tripod in 2009 which by todays standards is astonishing. Even though I don't like the guy, Paul van Dyke played there too in 08, as well as John Digweed, Booka Shade, Armin van Buuren, Loco Dice. We had Groove Armada in Dublin too. But those years are gone now. DJ's just don't see Dublin as a viable or credible night spot anymore.

Oh what a tragedy...what point is there in even heading out when we dont have one of these DJs to come along and press play on an mp3 player for us. Instead we have to put up with some local tossers pressing play on an mp3 player...maybe one day one of these big name international tosspots will fly in and we will get the opportunity to pay them 1000 times as much as the local tosspot to press play on an mp3 player...fingers crossed!

MarkY91 · 31-08-2013 08:55PM

i couldnt agree more OP. our nightlife is a laughing stock compared to real cities. i was in liverpool in february and their clubs dont close until around 6am..made me realise how pathetic nights out in town are

coniosumadre · 31-08-2013 08:56PM

sugarman wrote: »

Youre talking bollox. In more cases it more common most countries close earlier or at the same time of us baring a few such as some you mentioned.

The whole US/Canada generally close at 2am latest MAYBE a couple of 3am but thats pushing it.

In the Nordic countries, Sweden, Denmark, Norway.. they all close at 1/1,30am. And tough tits if you have a pint or 2 in hand. Youre turffed out when the clock hits 1/1.30 regardless. Or if youve had more than 4pints youre deemed drunk:eek:

Then you have Italy, Spain, France etc.. that are simliar again to ourselves.

But you do have a point, the option should be there and not just nightclubs. Bars too. The whole of temple bar open till 5am or so weekends would be great for business and tourism. A defined area of the city that can be managed and controlled easily by police too.

What absolute rubbish??where exactly are you pulling your facts out of(besides the obivous?)Spain Italy and France have similar closing times to us??what absolute rubbish....the worst ive read for a long time.

31-08-2013 09:02PM

NuckingFacker wrote: »

I agree with you. Sadly, we are ruled by a bunch of Teachers and solicitors from Mayo, who consider two pints and a walk home to be "a mad night out" and legislate accordingly.

But dont forget, the Dáil bar somehow manages to stay open til 5am

Sofiztikated · 31-08-2013 09:07PM

irishdude11 wrote: »

Oh what a tragedy...what point is there in even heading out when we dont have one of these DJs to come along and press play on an mp3 player for us. Instead we have to put up with some local tossers pressing play on an mp3 player...maybe one day one of these big name international tosspots will fly in and we will get the opportunity to pay them 1000 times as much as the local tosspot to press play on an mp3 player...fingers crossed!

And that's why we can't have nice things.

coniosumadre · 31-08-2013 09:08PM

Most bars that close at 01:00 or earlier, will have a free entry policy. Most bars and clubs that remain open until 03:00 will charge an entrance fee. Some clubs in the larger cities remain open until 05:00. Their entrance fee will usually be around 200 SEK (~US$28.00.

From the Sweden wiki travel page...again more bollox you´re talking...

Caonima · 31-08-2013 09:16PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

i couldnt agree more OP. our nightlife is a laughing stock compared to real cities. i was in liverpool in february and their clubs dont close until around 6am..made me realise how pathetic nights out in town are

Shanghai - 24-hour bars, nightclubs that open late and close the next morning, DJs from across the globe, but hardly any fighting in the streets come closing time, happy hour deals, 2 for 1s, massive variety. Ireland, and in a microcosm Dublin, is way behind. But that's not to say that it couldn't change to something better - it just takes time and steady transition.

Aidric · 31-08-2013 09:18PM

HoggyRS wrote: »

To be fair if we were allowed to drink until 4 or 5am there would be mayhem on the streets.

Flood the streets with high grade coke. Level off the aul alcohol buzz.

Caonima · 31-08-2013 09:19PM

Aidric wrote: »

Flood the streets with high grade coke. Level off the aul alcohol buzz.

Top it off with curry chips and a few dirty young wans and it'd be near-vana

Kidchameleon · 31-08-2013 09:45PM

MonstaMash wrote: »

Used to be a cool unofficial jazz/bar in Montmatre, Paris in the 90's called 'Le Chat Noir'...all the jazz muso's used to flock to the place when they finished up the day gig to party & jam :cool:

Fell out of there many's a night at the crack of dawn, even started liking jazz

Licking jazz?

NuckingFacker · 31-08-2013 10:33PM

I've a mate who flies in Berlin DJs for events. He's doing the E.Pic this weekend. His biggest issue is getting licences and venues, mainly licences.. there's punters aplenty, and I do get why. It's a missed opportunity, we have a party reputation, why not play to it? Why do we strive to be somthing we are patently not? The world wants to party, and here we are busting our chops trying to be all serious and hard working? Seriously? Fcuk that, i'd rather get rich partying than slogging to please some pharma gobdaw. Does this fact escape our masters? Ireland could be a wet Ibiza if they loosened up. The only thing promoting a "go-getter good-boy ireland" has done is make us a borefest for tourists and it will ultimatly kill our tourism industry. Tourism and farming were our strengths, we should play to our strengths and stop pandering to FMNC. Ireland was always for craic, we're killing the golden craic.

Retrovertigo · 31-08-2013 10:46PM

We'd drink ourselves to death if we had the same closing times of other European countries.

Aidric · 31-08-2013 10:49PM

Retrovertigo wrote: »

We'd drink ourselves to death if we had the same closing times of other European countries.

Nah, people would adjust their drinking habits accordingly and if they don't then they're mongs.

The_Gatsby · 31-08-2013 11:03PM

irishdude11 wrote: »

Oh what a tragedy...what point is there in even heading out when we dont have one of these DJs to come along and press play on an mp3 player for us. Instead we have to put up with some local tossers pressing play on an mp3 player...maybe one day one of these big name international tosspots will fly in and we will get the opportunity to pay them 1000 times as much as the local tosspot to press play on an mp3 player...fingers crossed!

David Guetta is not the only one of "these DJs". Don't be so close minded

long range shooter · 31-08-2013 11:03PM

sugarman wrote: »

Youre talking bollox.

In the Nordic countries, Sweden, Denmark, Norway.. they all close at 1/1,30am. And tough tits if you have a pint or 2 in hand. Youre turffed out when the clock hits 1/1.30 regardless. Or if youve had more than 4pints youre deemed drunk:eek:

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That's wrong,last time I was out in Norway in a nightclub,they stopped serving at 2:30,but you are allowed to finished your drinks until they close at 3am.
And I had more than 4 pints,lol.:rolleyes:

Henlars67 · 31-08-2013 11:13PM

I do think that closing times here are much too early, and that nite clubs should be allowed go on til 4am at weekends, but anyone who wants a late drink will have no problem getting one once they no where to look.

I drink in a bar that doesn't open until 10, there's never more than a handful in it until after 12.

The door is locked at 1.30 and anyone who is in by that time can stay until around 5.

There's music one night a week that starts at around 1.

It's great while you're there, but forget about it if you've to work or do stuff the next day.

worded · 31-08-2013 11:24PM

Do we have a minister for sound here?
Do we need a clubbing portfolio ? Oh yeah !

Galwayguy35 · 01-09-2013 06:49AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Went to a reunion in Tuam recently. At midnight a group of us decided to go into the town to a bar. Was there til 4am and place was still busy and drinks flowing.
Who says everywhere closes at 1am.

So you had a good night out in Tuam?

A remarkable feat considering the place is a dive.

camel jockey · 01-09-2013 01:26PM

Aidric wrote: »

Nah, people would adjust their drinking habits accordingly and if they don't then they're mongs.

Yes, past experience has confirmed this to be the case.

camel jockey · 01-09-2013 01:28PM

Kruse wrote: »

Chucking everyone out on the street at the same time (because of the current laws) is a recipe for disaster.

What a load of codswallop. Is there 'disaster' every weekend in every country in Ireland currently?

Sofiztikated · 01-09-2013 01:34PM

camel jockey wrote: »

What a load of codswallop. Is there 'disaster' every weekend in every country in Ireland currently?

To be honest, yes.

A friend of herself is a dental something or other, and does on call work in St James. Weekends are full of broken teeth, jaws, sinuses, etc, the majority are alcohol related.

I speak with an on call doctor regularly. His weekends are stupid busy with alcohol related injuries.

While I haven't been out and about today, I can guarantee last night there was at least one punch up in my local town, at least one in my home town, and god knows what else.

Later closing times, staggered closing times, choosing closing times would mean everyone doesn't pile out of their respective pubs/clubs at the same time, all alcoholed up, wanting a curry cheese chip and the ride.

camel jockey · 01-09-2013 01:36PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

To be honest, yes.

A friend of herself is a dental something or other, and does on call work in St James. Weekends are full of broken teeth, jaws, sinuses, etc, the majority are alcohol related.

I speak with an on call doctor regularly. His weekends are stupid busy with alcohol related injuries.

While I haven't been out and about today, I can guarantee last night there was at least one punch up in my local town, at least one in my home town, and god knows what else.

Later closing times, staggered closing times, choosing closing times would mean everyone doesn't pile out of their respective pubs/clubs at the same time, all alcoholed up, wanting a curry cheese chip and the ride.

I'm not seeing any 'disasters' - just stupid drunken drunken behaviour. Nothing to do with closing times.

bbbaldy · 01-09-2013 01:44PM

The Irish dont know how to drink. Messy slobby drunks who dont know when to stop. Thats why we cant have clubs like this.

Sofiztikated · 01-09-2013 01:46PM

camel jockey wrote: »

I'm not seeing any 'disasters' - just stupid drunken drunken behaviour. Nothing to do with closing times.

Define disaster.

Yes it is to do with drunken behaviour. Yes it is to do with closing times.

People go out later in Ireland.
People know they have 2, maybe 3 hours drinking time, so they horse all manner of booze into them, in a short space of time.
Then they get fúcked out onto the street, all clammering to get food, and taxis.

The disaster is the amount of time and money spend and lost due to alco fúcking hol. How many days off work due to hangovers? Money lost for the workers, money lost for the business. How many hospital hours lost? Both people waiting in the queue for A&E, and doctors, nurses, assistants, ambulance drivers, paramedics, gardai spent cleaning up after alcohol related injuries. How much money spent on replacing shop windows, doors, lights, flower plants etc that have been busted up, because of drunken muppets.

Kruse · 01-09-2013 02:01PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Define disaster.

Yes it is to do with drunken behaviour. Yes it is to do with closing times.

People go out later in Ireland.
People know they have 2, maybe 3 hours drinking time, so they horse all manner of booze into them, in a short space of time.
Then they get fúcked out onto the street, all clammering to get food, and taxis.

The disaster is the amount of time and money spend and lost due to alco fúcking hol. How many days off work due to hangovers? Money lost for the workers, money lost for the business. How many hospital hours lost? Both people waiting in the queue for A&E, and doctors, nurses, assistants, ambulance drivers, paramedics, gardai spent cleaning up after alcohol related injuries. How much money spent on replacing shop windows, doors, lights, flower plants etc that have been busted up, because of drunken muppets.

I have to disagree with you there. 99% of people that go out at night are not there to cause harm or inconvenience to others. I have been attending night bars and events for years and never once have I ended up an A&E or put a strain on emergency services. Me being there and consuming alcohol in a responsible manner, along with my colleagues, was a good thing for the economy and the nightlife venues, not a bad thing. What you're arguing for is that because a handful of bad eggs will cause trouble, the rest of us must be controlled in our entertainment activities. That's a cop-out and if we follow that to it's logical conclusion, we might as well just ban alcohol altogether.

Additionally, I disagree with the statement that the Irish head out later. We don't. When I was in other cities in Europe, it was incredibly unusual for people to even get dressed up before midnight/1am. The inevitable and negative mind-frame we have in Ireland relating to getting pissed BEFORE we even leave the house is precisely because of the closing hours. If night venues are going to start chucking everyone out onto the streets at 2am or 3am, then as soon as you arrive at these establishments it's a "race to get ****tttfaced as soon as possible". There is no balance in drinking. There is no time. It creates a terrible atmosphere and encourages even more alcohol consumption with even stronger drink and at a quicker rate.

camel jockey · 01-09-2013 02:04PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Define disaster.

Yes it is to do with drunken behaviour. Yes it is to do with closing times.

People go out later in Ireland.

So if they went out earlier it wouldn't be a problem? Maybe there should be legislation that they have to go out earlier?

COYW · 01-09-2013 02:09PM

Aidric wrote: »

Nah, people would adjust their drinking habits accordingly and if they don't then they're mongs.

Lol, don't make me laugh. The Irish don't drink to socialize, they drink to get drunk. A&Es around the country are jammed every night with drink related patients as it is. More nightclubs will just add to this problem.

Why Are NightClubs Illegal In Ireland?

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