VW Caddy 1.6 TDi 75 BHP Remap?

The Pontiac · 31-08-2013 08:33AM

Thanks for all the excellent advice. Going to Blackwater Motors today and will report back!

The Pontiac · 31-08-2013 09:41AM

The new Kangoo looks much better alright. Nearly everyone tells me to get a Caddy though.

From my limited research, it appears all the 1.6 tdi engines are the same, just powered differently before they left the factory.

It'd seem mad to pay the premium (€1600 ish) for the 102 bhp, if someone like Joe Power can work his magic on the 75 bhp version. Maybe bring it to 100 horses.

31-08-2013 11:27AM

I saw the Fiat Doblo van on carzone with 1.6 105 hp and I think 115 hp for 12,800 euro's ?

I know what I'd be buying and it wouldn't be a Caddy 75 hp at 16,500 Euro's.

You could get A/C and all for a lot less.

Fiat make cracking cars these days, and great engines.

The Pontiac · 31-08-2013 11:33AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I saw the Fiat Doblo van on carzone with 1.6 105 hp and I think 115 hp for 12,800 euro's ?

I know what I'd be buying and it wouldn't be a Caddy 75 hp at 16,500 Euro's.

You could get A/C and all for a lot less.

Fiat make cracking cars these days, and great engines.

Any link? Thanks. But this is surely after VAT, thus making it €1300 dearer than an entry-level Caddy.

bazz26 · 31-08-2013 02:30PM

It is plus VAT:
http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Fiat/Doblo/1.6TD-SWB/34413644617589480/

R.O.R · 31-08-2013 03:58PM

I reckon you could get a better discount off a doblo than a caddy..

The Pontiac · 31-08-2013 04:17PM

bazz26 wrote: »

It is plus VAT:
http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Fiat/Doblo/1.6TD-SWB/34413644617589480/

Was thinking that too. Nice enough van though.

The Pontiac · 31-08-2013 04:24PM

Just paid a deposit on a new pre-registered Caddy. It's the 75 bhp version, and it didn't feel too bad to drive at all. Can't really justify the price premium for the 102 bhp at the moment.

I need a van fast and don't want to wait 6-8 weeks for options like air-con etc.

My one has the electric pack! Imagine that - electric windows and front fog lights.

Thanks again for the advice. Might look into increasing the power down the line a bit.

Just waiting on my VAT number to arrive.

tossy · 31-08-2013 04:30PM

The Pontiac wrote: »

Just paid a deposit on a new pre-registered Caddy. It's the 75 bhp version, and it didn't feel too bad to drive at all. Can't really justify the price premium for the 102 bhp at the moment.

I need a van fast and don't want to wait 6-8 weeks for options like air-con etc.

My one has the electric pack! Imagine that - electric windows and front fog lights.

Thanks again for the advice. Might look into increasing the power down the line a bit.

Just waiting on my VAT number to arrive.

Best of luck with it.

D16TURBO · 31-08-2013 04:34PM

I've been looking about mapping my own car recently and have seen plenty of companies able to remap the 1.6 tdi VAG engine even the 75 bhp in the caddy can be brought up to 140 bhp. There are some members over on Briskoda who have done this to their 75 bhp Fabia's so its worth a look.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/264027-16-tdi-remap/

GTDolanator · 31-08-2013 04:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I saw the Fiat Doblo van on carzone with 1.6 105 hp and I think 115 hp for 12,800 euro's ?

I know what I'd be buying and it wouldn't be a Caddy 75 hp at 16,500 Euro's.

You could get A/C and all for a lot less.

Fiat make cracking cars these days, and great engines.

Have you actually sat in a new doblo?

cheap horrible and nasty goes for the combo too

Mycroft H · 31-08-2013 04:55PM

GTDolanator wrote: »

Have you actually sat in a new doblo?

cheap horrible and nasty goes for the combo too

Caddy isn't 4k euros better. Doblo is a fine van for what it is.

The Pontiac · 31-08-2013 04:58PM

D16TURBO wrote: »

I've been looking about mapping my own car recently and have seen plenty of companies able to remap the 1.6 tdi VAG engine even the 75 bhp in the caddy can be brought up to 140 bhp. There are some members over on Briskoda who have done this to their 75 bhp Fabia's so its worth a look.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/264027-16-tdi-remap/

I was reading about this in the UK forums too.

After the driving it today though I think 140 bhp would be too much. It just would feel right for a van imo. The torque wasn't bad from the 75. It wouldn't drive me nuts (not yet anyway).

I'd say 100 bhp would be perfect.

The Pontiac · 31-08-2013 05:02PM

BX 19 wrote: »

Caddy isn't 4k euros better. Doblo is a fine van for what it is.

But the Caddy isn't €4k dearer.

I got mine for €11,900 excluding VAT. About €15700 before VAT. I was only concerned of the figure after VAT.

That makes the Caddy €400 cheaper than the Doblo linked earlier.

The Caddy will hold its value much better too. They fetch crazy money used.

corkgsxr · 31-08-2013 09:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I saw the Fiat Doblo van on carzone with 1.6 105 hp and I think 115 hp for 12,800 euro's ?

I know what I'd be buying and it wouldn't be a Caddy 75 hp at 16,500 Euro's.

You could get A/C and all for a lot less.

Fiat make cracking cars these days, and great engines.

Yep there so good the corporation stopped buying them.

Snapping timing chains

Wiper and window motors go.

Heater radiators leak quite commonly

Very easy to tip over.

General opinion is the ford transit connect is best of the bunch with the 1.8

They don't use caddys though.

An post have found the caddys best.

And the berlingo and variants the worst

01-09-2013 09:36AM

I drove the 70 hp and the 90 hp transit connect, granted they were 2006-8 ish models.

The 70 hp was really annoying to drive, I mean I could hardly over take, and fighting with the gears really was a tiring pile of crap to drive.

The 90 was much better, I could have done with more.

The handling was decent and the steering had good feel.

Worst of all was the noise, it was really tiring and the radio was useless, the van was so loud that the radio had to be turned up too loud and was distorted.

Have to say one of the worst vans ever.

Maybe they are better now ?

Henry Ford III · 01-09-2013 09:48AM

D16TURBO wrote: »

I've been looking about mapping my own car recently and have seen plenty of companies able to remap the 1.6 tdi VAG engine even the 75 bhp in the caddy can be brought up to 140 bhp. There are some members over on Briskoda who have done this to their 75 bhp Fabia's so its worth a look.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/264027-16-tdi-remap/

Brakes, suspension, transmission etc. would all become suspect with nearly double the stock engine power.

The Pontiac · 01-09-2013 09:50AM

There's a new model Connect due in 2014.

ted1 · 01-09-2013 09:58AM

I've a 07 1.9tdi caddy its my second 07 one. At 200k they begin to give lots if problems . DMF, wiring looms, oil going into cooling system, etc, etc

01-09-2013 10:14AM

corkgsxr wrote: »

Yep there so good the corporation stopped buying them.

Snapping timing chains

Wiper and window motors go.

Heater radiators leak quite commonly

Very easy to tip over.

General opinion is the ford transit connect is best of the bunch with the 1.8

They don't use caddys though.

An post have found the caddys best.

And the berlingo and variants the worst

Well in my experience of driving vans, the volkswagens were the most unreliable of all, I clocked over 300,000 miles in them. Worst was the newer caddy, not the current facelift but the previous with the pd engines.

I had 2 of them from new and the flywheel and front left wheel bearing failed after 15,000 Kms and the next one the flywheel failed, but I didn't own it by then.

Maybe the facelift is better and as vans go they are probably the nicest on the road but I'd certainly be taking out an extended warranty on them.

I had the 1.9 pd 104 hp and I couldn't imaging driving anything less, it would drive me mad. The 2.0l wasn't available at the time but it would have been my first choice.

I drove the combo with the 1.3 multijet and it wasn't bad, but at higher speeds it lacked, same engine as the fiat, I found it very economical it was a good engine.

The 1.6 fiats have no timing chains. And are reliable.

I haven't heard much problems with the fiats, one of the companies I worked had Opel and fiat vans and they were very reliable.

I found the caddy suspension poor as it banged over bumps with a hard thud. Maybe the facelift is better ?

01-09-2013 10:15AM

ted1 wrote: »

I've a 07 1.9tdi caddy its my second 07 one. At 200k they begin to give lots if problems . DMF, wiring looms, oil going into cooling system, etc, etc

Kms ?

01-09-2013 10:16AM

Pontiac, I really like that. I'd nearly buy one and use it as a car !

ted1 · 01-09-2013 10:59AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Kms ?

Yes, at 200k km they start falling apart

01-09-2013 11:33AM

ted1 wrote: »

Yes, at 200k km they start falling apart

All the caddy vans broke my heart from the old model to the new, flywheel, wheel bearing (s) engines and drive shafts.

The old non turbo engines had terrible problems with the glow plugs, or rather relays, wiring etc and they broke my heart on cold mornings trying to start them, sometimes I had to wait for the glow plug light to go out 5 or 6 times. Not all of them were like that but a good few.

I didn't find them all that reliable.

01-09-2013 01:08PM

Indeed it does, the old one while nice to drive, better suspension than the Caddy, better steering, but horribly noisy in every way, it was one of the most tiring Vehicles I ever drove simply because of the noise alone.

But I think the Connect was more reliable than the caddy too.

I wonder what their engine choices will be, probably only offer the basic engines for Ireland. I hate when dealers don't list all the options because most people only assume that's all that's available and not realise that you can order most of the engines that come in the U.K.

The Pontiac · 01-09-2013 01:17PM

I reckon the new Connect will be in a different league than the current one. It's being around so long now, Ford will have all sorts of technology advancements for the new model.

AFAIK they're already on the road in the UK. British Telecom are testing them in their fleet.

corkgsxr · 01-09-2013 02:34PM

The Pontiac wrote: »

I reckon the new Connect will be in a different league than the current one. It's being around so long now, Ford will have all sorts of technology advancements for the new model.

AFAIK they're already on the road in the UK. British Telecom are testing them in their fleet.

More than likely they'll do it like the 02 model transit. It'll be a testbed for ideas and then the next model will be the one that works right

The Pontiac · 15-09-2013 08:21PM

A weeks driving done and I'm delighted with the Caddy. Very comfortable, with a nice ride. Handling is good too (for a van).

The 75 bhp engine isn't as bad as I imagined. There's actually very little torque difference between the 102 and 75 bhp versions.

Must get a solid bulkhead though as there's a lot of rear noise. I can't imagine being in it, during the heatwave over the summer with no air-con.

Great value after VAT. APR from VW Bank only 4.9% APR. Residual Values are much better than any other van on the road.

L-M · 15-09-2013 09:47PM

I found mine was very hollow, as soon as I put some stuff into it all that noise went.

R.O.R · 15-09-2013 09:48PM

You might find it tricky to get a solid bulkhead. Pretty sure when I needed a van with one, my dealer had to order a high cap model as well as the 600kg version I ordered, and swap the bulkhead over.

Can't remember why I didn't order a high cap, but that's the only model that came with a full bulkhead as the rear windows are opaque.

Rather strange set up - wasn't available as a part at the time.

VW Caddy 1.6 TDi 75 BHP Remap?

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