SYRIA WAR MEGATHREAD - Mod Note First Post

gurramok · 31-08-2013 01:19AM

Seaneh wrote: »

I didn't say the entire saudi nation does.

Stop moving the ****ing goalposts everytime someone pulls apart your nonsense.

You tried to say that the saudis are "on the forefront of batlling terrorism".

That is absolute bollocks when the Saudi Royal Family actively promote Wahabi radicalism and give an international platform for Radical Wahabi Imams and fund their schools and mosques all over the world, which is the basis of the beliefs of groups like Al Qeada, The Taliban, Al Nursa, Hamas and so on.

So, go ahead and admit you were talking nonsense and stop trying to dig your way out of a hole.

You have a short memory, the Saudi's have actively battled and suppressed Islamic extremism on their territory for the last few years.

Where is your proof that the Saudi's fund and support the Al Qeada, The Taliban and Al Nursa?

Seaneh · 31-08-2013 01:23AM

gurramok wrote: »

You have a short memory, the Saudi's have actively battled and suppressed Islamic extremism on their territory for the last few years.

Where is your proof that the Saudi's fund and support the Al Qeada, The Taliban and Al Nursa?

You don't give up, do you? Even when you know you're wrong?

This is worse then when you claimed you were being "oppressed" by a secretary in a hospital because she asked you what religion you were.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8182847/Wikileaks-Saudis-chief-funders-of-al-Qaeda.html

That's a start.

You can start here for the state sponsership of the spread of Wahabi ideals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_movement#Saudi_Funding

Dodd · 31-08-2013 01:23AM

Anyone who calls a country "her" should be dismissed as having no idea.

gurramok · 31-08-2013 01:26AM

Seaneh wrote: »

You don't give up, do you? Even when you know you're wrong?

This is worse then when you claimed you were being "oppressed" by a secretary in a hospital because she asked you what religion you were.

Oh, do we have a grudge do we? I remember our own Taliban type religious posters having a go then.

Earlier you seemed to have evidence of the chemical weapons UN report before it was even published!

Surely, you have proof that the Saudi's are funding groups like Al Qeada, The Taliban, Al Nursa, Hamas and so on?

seanie_c · 31-08-2013 01:27AM

gurramok wrote: »

You have a short memory, the Saudi's have actively battled and suppressed Islamic extremism on their territory for the last few years.

Where is your proof that the Saudi's fund and support the Al Qeada, The Taliban and Al Nursa?

Well, if you believe recent reports of the meeting between President Putin and Bandar Bush from Saudi Arabia, it looks like The House Of Saud do control the Islamic extremists.

Apparently Bandar Bush was trying to coerce Russia into withdrawing support for Assad in Syria.

...I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics in the city of Sochi on the Black Sea next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us, and they will not move in the Syrian territory’s direction without coordinating with us. These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role or influence in Syria’s political future.”

Supposedly, Putin responded with the following...

“We know that you have supported the Chechen terrorist groups for a decade. And that support, which you have frankly talked about just now, is completely incompatible with the common objectives of fighting global terrorism that you mentioned. We are interested in developing friendly relations according to clear and strong principles. Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters.”

gurramok · 31-08-2013 01:31AM

Seaneh wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8182847/Wikileaks-Saudis-chief-funders-of-al-Qaeda.html

That's a start.

Read your own source, it 100% verifies what I had said.

Private individuals in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states friendly to the United States are the chief source of funding for al-Qaeda, the Taliban and other terrorist groups, according to leaked US diplomatic cables

And

theGem wrote:

Read this article, the Saudi's can turn on and off the extremists in Syria

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ops-Syria.html

The details of the talks were first leaked to the Russian press. A more detailed version has since appeared in the Lebanese newspaper As-Safir, which has Hezbollah links and is hostile to the Saudis.

A Russian source quotes a Hezbollah source, bastion of journalism :rolleyes:

seanie_c · 31-08-2013 01:33AM

gurramok wrote: »

A Russian source quotes a Hezbollah source, bastion of journalism :rolleyes:

A fair point, but who are western media quoting in relation to the intercepted telephone calls?

Israel...

Seaneh · 31-08-2013 01:37AM

gurramok wrote: »

Read your own source, it 100% verifies what I had said.

No it doesn't, it says that the Saudi authorities only act when pressured by the US and given all the details by the CIA and even then they allow the people responsible to continue doing it. Do you really believe that the Saudi regime doesn't know what goes on in it's own country? Have you any idea how large their intelligence and secret police services are?

gurramok wrote: »

A Russian source quotes a Hezbollah source, bastion of journalism :rolleyes:

Don't read too good, do you?

A Russian media outlet published information that was leaked to it by someone inside the Russian establishment and then a Lebanese media outlet published more of the same.

The Russian source didn't quote the Lebanese source at all, they couldn't have, seeing as they published the leaks first.

gurramok · 31-08-2013 01:40AM

Seaneh wrote: »

No it doesn't, it says that the Saudi authorities only act when pressured by the US and given all the details by the CIA and even then they allow the people responsible to continue doing it. Do you really believe that the Saudi regime doesn't know what goes on in it's own country? Have you any idea how large their intelligence and secret police services are?

Don't read too good, do you?

A Russian media outlet published information that was leaked to it by someone inside the Russian establishment and then a Lebanese media outlet published more of the same.

The Russian source didn't quote the Lebanese source at all, they couldn't have, seeing as they published the leaks first.

All quoting Russian sources while said Russia has supplied Assad with arms(and those planes to bomb kids) to kill at will in Syria for the last 2 years.

seanie_c · 31-08-2013 01:41AM

It feels like 2003 all over again . . .

Auld Benji in 2002 was busy persuading the US to invade Iraq . . .of course, US really benefit from that disaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQdg4D78Jc

Iraqis had mobile biological labs - False
Iraqis obtaining Yellow Cake Uranium from Niger - False
Iraqis meeting with Terrorists in Prague - False
Weapons of Mass Destruction . . .

All pre-cooked intelligence from the Israelis...just like the latest garbage.

But why should anyone doubt Israelis this time around?
They're best friends of the US, they would never lead US to war for their own agenda.

zenno · 31-08-2013 01:43AM

None, they should be left to the own devices.

There should be a prime directive as for non interference in a country's quarrels.

Send in the flag of death called the american/british military and there will be many many more deaths, and also a huge profit for the arms industry into the billions.

Seaneh · 31-08-2013 01:43AM

gurramok wrote: »

All quoting Russian sources while said Russia has supplied Assad with arms(and those planes to bomb kids) to kill at will in Syria for the last 2 years.

Well if the sources are Russian they must be lies, it's only logical. After all, if we learned anything from Hollywood, it's that the Russian's can't be trusted.

gurramok · 31-08-2013 01:46AM

Seaneh wrote: »

Well if the sources are Russian they must be lies, it's only logical. After all, if we learned anything from Hollywood, it's that the Russian's can't be trusted.

And Russia is Assad's ally blindly supporting genocide.

Nice defence you gave, sickening support of state forces.

Highflyer13 · 31-08-2013 01:49AM

Just watched this video from Syrian youtube blogger Mimi Al Lahams appearance on Australian tv. It cant be denied that the USA are supporting the Muslim brotherhood but what are their real motives? Seems a huge flip from the war on terror to be supporting Muslim extremists. Democracy hasn't worked well in Egypt and Libya so far. I think now people are beginning to realize the Americans have other motives although we don't quite know what they are yet.

seanie_c · 31-08-2013 02:06AM

Pepe Escobar and James Corbett discuss who's behind Syrian War and what it's all about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCdaExnIpGs

donegal_road · 31-08-2013 02:47AM

gurramok wrote: »

More whataboutery. So you condone chemical\napalm use by Assad against civilians?

US used napalm in Vietnem

at least we are sure of that......

reports from Syria re napalm are of yet, speculation until weapons inspectors issue their report

MonaPizza · 31-08-2013 04:37AM

Is anyone laughing as hard as I at this arsehole, John Kerry, and his gibberish about...wait for it..."Weapons of Mass Destruction"

MonaPizza · 31-08-2013 05:50AM

gurramok wrote: »

Assad has been using bombs of all sorts against his own people for the last 2 years. Where you have been, have you been watching events?

So Assad has been killing Syrian civilians for 2 years? Is that what you're saying? Do you have any evidence of this claim? Is Assad trying to kill every Syrian?...his own people? Because if that's the case he could have killed every single man, woman and baby in Syria in about 72 hours, given the military that he has at his disposal.
So please....tell us how he has been killing his own people [your words] dor the last 2 years.

camel jockey · 31-08-2013 08:42AM

MonaPizza wrote: »

Is anyone laughing as hard as I at this arsehole, John Kerry, and his gibberish about...wait for it..."Weapons of Mass Destruction"

No, I think you are on your own there. I suggest you see your doctor posthaste. Or sooner, if possible.

camel jockey · 31-08-2013 08:45AM

"Won't Somebody Please Think Of The Camels?"

czx · 31-08-2013 09:25AM

Seaneh votes Sinn Féin

Seaneh · 31-08-2013 10:26AM

czx wrote: »

Seaneh votes Sinn Féin

First preference for a single Sinn Fein candidate in a single election because I saw his as the best candidate in the Galway wast area. I've also voted for labour,green party and independents in other elections.

But what has that got to do with the price of butter?

wendell borton · 31-08-2013 10:29AM

gurramok wrote: »

Just because a handful of Saudi's are extreme does not mean the whole nation are extreme, thats your mistake.

Where is your proof to label the entire Saudi nation as supporting the Taliban\Al Qeada\Al Nusra?

Most Saudi's don't have a say though as Saudi Arabia is a monarchy founded on wahhabi ideology.

Gringo180 · 31-08-2013 11:24AM

seanie_c wrote: »

Well, if you believe recent reports of the meeting between President Putin and Bandar Bush from Saudi Arabia, it looks like The House Of Saud do control the Islamic extremists.

Apparently Bandar Bush was trying to coerce Russia into withdrawing support for Assad in Syria.

...I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics in the city of Sochi on the Black Sea next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us, and they will not move in the Syrian territory’s direction without coordinating with us. These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role or influence in Syria’s political future.”

Supposedly, Putin responded with the following...

“We know that you have supported the Chechen terrorist groups for a decade. And that support, which you have frankly talked about just now, is completely incompatible with the common objectives of fighting global terrorism that you mentioned. We are interested in developing friendly relations according to clear and strong principles. Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters.”

The more I hear Putin speak the more I like him. How has Obama got a nobel peace prize and not Putin?

donegal_road · 31-08-2013 11:40AM

MonaPizza wrote: »

Is anyone laughing as hard as I at this arsehole, John Kerry, and his gibberish about...wait for it..."Weapons of Mass Destruction"

that awkward photograph that John Kerry doesn't want us to see.. A photo is going viral showing him and his wife having a cozy dinner with the Assads in 2009.

31-08-2013 12:00PM

this gave me a giggle this morning .

Twitter

Sarah Palin ✔ @SarahPalinUSA

LET ALLAH SORT IT OUT

“So we’re bombing Syria because Syria is bombing Syria? And I’m the idiot?” - Sarah... http://fb.me/J5TdT7uE
12:25 AM - 31 Aug 2013

donegal_road · 31-08-2013 12:18PM

just saw this in the Examiner, wonder will we see this on all the major news channels by this evening?

Rebels admit gas attack result of mishandling chemical weapons

tiger55 · 31-08-2013 01:34PM

Source of this info is:

Respected 20 year Middle Eastern reporter and Associated Press, BBC and NPR correspondent Dale Gavrak was told by Syrian rebels that they were responsible for last week's chemical weapons incident in Ghouta.

Will the mainstream media ignore a story that could derail the march to war?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz0TxVmq3-Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz0TxVmq3-Q

tiger55 · 31-08-2013 01:39PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEDX0EL3dn8

Gringo180 · 31-08-2013 01:40PM

tiger55 wrote: »

Source of this info is:

Respected 20 year Middle Eastern reporter and Associated Press, BBC and NPR correspondent Dale Gavrak was told by Syrian rebels that they were responsible for last week's chemical weapons incident in Ghouta.

Will the mainstream media ignore a story that could derail the march to war?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz0TxVmq3-Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz0TxVmq3-Q

If the don't run this story they will have more blood on there hands.

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