Where is Michael Lynn?

vicwatson · 30-08-2013 05:52PM

ceruleanblue wrote: »

Nice thread bump - over 5 years!

I hope they don't go too hard on him. "we can't be scaring away investment", remember! {{profound sarcasm}}

I think its a good bump as he's only been arrested now after this length of time, way too long

Elbaston · 30-08-2013 05:54PM

We should get that private bounty hunter guy from american tv - you know the sophisticated guy with excellent style and classy dress sense.

Montroseee · 30-08-2013 06:18PM

How can he be extradited if there is no treaty between Ireland and Brazil? I recall a case where a rapist fled there to avoid prosecution here also.

washman3 · 30-08-2013 06:25PM

camel jockey wrote: »

What crimes did Mary Harney commit again? IT seems to have slipped my mind.

Only f you've been living in a cave for the last 6 years..
Just look around you bud...;)

Fred Swanson · 30-08-2013 06:30PM

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camel jockey · 30-08-2013 06:32PM

washman3 wrote: »

Only f you've been living in a cave for the last 6 years..
Just look around you bud...;)

I repeat, what crimes did she commit? And don't bother posting some looney tunes clap trap if you don't have a legitimate answer. :rolleyes:

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 30-08-2013 07:01PM

Montroseee wrote: »

How can he be extradited if there is no treaty between Ireland and Brazil? I recall a case where a rapist fled there to avoid prosecution here also.

There is now a bi-lateral agreement between Ireland and Brazil.

bigroad · 30-08-2013 07:10PM

Word has it that there bringing him back to help out at NamA.I think a small wage of 200k was being offered.

dirtyden · 30-08-2013 07:25PM

I think the banks who loaned him money are just as culpable in the fraud he committed. His fraud was almost child like in its simplicity. He got multiple mortgages on the same properties and pocketed the cash. Banks threw money at him only because he appeared to be successful.

Banks who loaned money without carrying out due diligence just to collect the bonus on the loan should be brought to task too.

Obviously Lynn should be brought home to face the music too though.

Fred Swanson · 30-08-2013 07:54PM

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browne_rob5 · 06-09-2013 02:56AM

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/records-shed-new-light-on-michael-lynn-s-business-activities-in-brazil-1.1517689

Sounds like he is doing the same thing all over again in Brazil!

jetsonx · 09-08-2015 04:51PM

Anyone know when Michael is due back?

washman3 · 09-08-2015 11:43PM

jetsonx wrote: »

Anyone know when Michael is due back?

I would imagine he will be back to vote for his buddies in the General Election.!

Guy:Incognito · 10-08-2015 12:38AM

washman3 wrote: »

I would imagine he will be back to vote for his buddies in the General Election.!

Which ones?

Wacker The Attacker · 10-08-2015 01:22AM

down the local telling his neighbours that property is still a good investment

LETHAL LADY · 10-08-2015 01:35AM

Is he up his hole picking daisies?

Jupiter Mulligan · 01-07-2019 05:24PM

He's now trying to sponge Disability Allowance from the Irish taxpayer.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-solicitor-michael-lynn-challenges-refusal-to-give-him-disability-benefit-over-brazil-prison-experience-38270088.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/michael-lynn-challenges-refusal-of-disability-benefit-1.3943115

(Note that, contrary to the cretinous headlines in both The Irish Times and Irish Independent, there's no such thing as "Disability Benefit"! I hope his lawyers know that! )

01-07-2019 05:33PM

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

He's now trying to sponge Disability Allowance from the Irish taxpayer.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-solicitor-michael-lynn-challenges-refusal-to-give-him-disability-benefit-over-brazil-prison-experience-38270088.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/michael-lynn-challenges-refusal-of-disability-benefit-1.3943115

(Note that, contrary to the cretinous headlines in both The Irish Times and Irish Independent, there's no such thing as "Disability Benefit"! I hope his lawyers know that! )

I'm not in any way invested in this story, and have minimal sympathy for Michael Lynn, but it says a lot for this country that it takes someone like him to make some reasonable objections to the social welfare system.

For example, one of his complaints (quite reasonable) is that the same person whose decision he appealed, also reviewed the appeal.

That's a nonsense.

His medical assessment (for disability allowance, or whatever it's called) was conducted by a person who didn't examine him, whose medical expertise are unknown.

That's a nonsense.

Again, I have no sympathy for Lynn. He is accused of being a thief of jaw-dropping amounts of money.

Nevertheless, it is ridiculous that the Department of Social Welfare are engaging in such practices, which sound ridiculous if they are happening as reported in that article by The Irish Times.

Those are definitely not Fair Procedures, which we are guaranteed under the Constitution.

Jupiter Mulligan · 01-07-2019 05:36PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I'm not in any way invested in this story, and have minimal sympathy for Michael Lynn, but it says a lot for this country that it takes someone like him to make some reasonable objections to the social welfare system.

For example, one of his complaints (quite reasonable) is that the same person whose decision he appealed, also reviewed the appeal.

That's a nonsense.

His medical assessment (for disability allowance, or whatever it's called) was conducted by a person who didn't examine him, whose medical expertise are unknown.

That's a nonsense.

Again, I have no sympathy for Lynn. He is accused of being a thief of jaw-dropping amounts of money.

Nevertheless, it is ridiculous that the Department of Social Welfare are engaging in such practices, which sound ridiculous if they are happening as reported in that article by The Irish Times.

He was ruled out on the Habitual Residence Condition (HRC), so there wasn't any need to consider the medical situation.

It's a pretty simple thing - either he meets the HRC or he doesn't. If he doesn't then his application isn't considered.

This ex parte application is just more nonsense from greedy lawyers.

01-07-2019 05:37PM

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

He was ruled out on the Habitual Residence Condition (HRC), so there wasn't any need to consider the medical situation.

But it was considered. His appeal was examined by the original civil servant who refused it.

The medical examination did take place, without his presence.

That's the stupidity.

That's the point.

Jupiter Mulligan · 01-07-2019 05:44PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

But it was considered. His appeal was examined by the original civil servant who refused it.

The medical examination did take place, without his presence.

That's the stupidity.

That's the point.

That may well be your point, but, given that the Department of Social Protection wasn't in Court we have no idea whether it's factually correct.

But fair dues to you for believing Lynn - you're not the first!

(Incidentally, it appears that he didn't lodge an appeal with DSP - which would have been conducted by a separate unit - rather he requested a review. A review is a desktop job that checks if any error had been made in processing the application. Hence, once it was confirmed that he didn't meet the HRC criteria, his application had been correctly refused - end of story.)

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LuasSimon · 01-07-2019 05:48PM

Are there not other individuals out there who owed serious money , went to wales for 18 months , declared bankruptcy , drank lots of beer for the 18 months and came back and are living happily ever after ??

InTheShadows · 01-07-2019 05:54PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

Are there not other individuals out there who owed serious money , went to wales for 18 months , declared bankruptcy , drank lots of beer for the 18 months and came back and are living happily ever after ??

And lecturing the rest of us on how to live. If brass necking was an olympic sport Ireland would be gold medalists year after year.

01-07-2019 05:59PM

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

(Incidentally, it appears that he didn't lodge an appeal with DSP - which would have been conducted by a separate unit - rather he requested a review. A review is a desktop job that checks if any error had been made in processing the application.
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It seems to be quite a bit more than that.

It is an affirmation that no error has been made on either a point of law or fact.

Lynn seems to be saying that an error has been made on a point of law, namely his constitutional right to fair procedures.

Again, I have no sympathy for the man himself, but I suspect this case might be of great assistance to those who are trying to navigate the social welfare system, who expect that a doctor might examine them in their applications for disability allowance; or who expect their refusal for a payment to be reviewed by a person other than the original civil servant.

This does not seem like a lot to ask.

Jupiter Mulligan · 01-07-2019 09:10PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

It seems to be quite a bit more than that.

It is an affirmation that no error has been made on either a point of law or fact.

Lynn seems to be saying that an error has been made on a point of law, namely his constitutional right to fair procedures.

Again, I have no sympathy for the man himself, but I suspect this case might be of great assistance to those who are trying to navigate the social welfare system, who expect that a doctor might examine them in their applications for disability allowance; or who expect their refusal for a payment to be reviewed by a person other than the original civil servant.

This does not seem like a lot to ask.

Oh stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill!

The situation is very simple: Lynn applied for a social welfare payment to which he very evidently isn't entitled, as he failed to meet the HRC, so his application was refused.

And no amount of asinine whataboutery, pointless argument, pretentious drivel or ex parte application to any court in the land will change that fact.

Where is Michael Lynn?

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