How much does your job cost you?

April O Neill · 29-08-2013 09:11PM

Andy-Pandy wrote: »

i cycle there and that is free.

Apart from bike maintenance.

MadsL · 29-08-2013 09:29PM

April O Neill wrote: »

Work... socialising?

:pac:

You've never been pressurised into attending leaving drinks/meal? A fortune buying rounds and being of good cheer for someone you probably will never see again.

Cost us $160 last night at a leaving bash.

wexie · 29-08-2013 09:32PM

MadsL wrote: »

You've never been pressurised into attending leaving drinks/meal? A fortune buying rounds and being of good cheer for someone you probably will never see again.

Cost us $160 last night at a leaving bash.

I live over 100 km from the office, handiest excuse ever. Although once the boss said he'd sign off on my hotel. (and the drinks)

't was quite the hangover.

Andy-Pandy · 29-08-2013 09:36PM

April O Neill wrote: »

Apart from bike maintenance.

do it myself

shruikan2553 · 29-08-2013 09:37PM

Tax - 0
Commuting - bike maintenance at most
Lunch- Eat at home so same price anyway.
Work Clothes - Wear my own
All the rest 0 too.

Shenshen · 29-08-2013 09:46PM

So the suggestion here is to work harder, for much longer hours to maintain a much lower standard of living?

I fail to see the logic. Find yourself a job you actually enjoy, you won't feel it "costs" you anything then.

MadsL · 29-08-2013 09:51PM

Shenshen wrote: »

So the suggestion here is to work harder, for much longer hours to maintain a much lower standard of living?

I fail to see the logic. Find yourself a job you actually enjoy, you won't feel it "costs" you anything then.

Nope.

The logic is to work less for others and more for yourself and decommodify your lifestyle thereby releasing yourself from the burden of having to increasingly earn more to support an increasingly expensive lifestyle.

If your standard of living is defined by what you buy, rather than what you can do with your time, then it will never be logical.

Fox_In_Socks · 29-08-2013 09:56PM

I'd love to live off the grid one day. Phones, emails, people bothering me...leave it all behind.

Shenshen · 29-08-2013 10:10PM

MadsL wrote: »

Nope.

The logic is to work less for others and more for yourself and decommodify your lifestyle thereby releasing yourself from the burden of having to increasingly earn more to support an increasingly expensive lifestyle.

If your standard of living is defined by what you buy, rather than what you can do with your time, then it will never be logical.

Might sound hard to believe, but I work for myself. If I worked for others, as you put it, I would hardly expect to be paid for it, right?

I don't really see where there is a burden to earn more - I earn enough to live my life at a level I'm more than happy with.

I would have to spend more time than I will ever even have in order to be anywhere near as comfortable and happy if I decided that rather then working 7 hours a day for a wage I'd go and work 24/7 to keep some sort of roof over my head and find food somewhere. That doesn't sound logical.

Radiosonde · 29-08-2013 10:14PM

major bill wrote: »

Still lucky to work in a company that expense travel and lunch if working off site.

work costs nothing which I think is the reason they get the best out of their staff.

Is that your username or what the accounts dept calls you where you work?

imitation · 29-08-2013 10:20PM

Nah, all in all I prefer a steady job. this kind of living is all great on paper and stuff, but having dry months of no money when you cant find odd jobs, or getting into one of those things that all of a sudden costs you a few grand quickly make it stressful

April O Neill · 30-08-2013 01:33AM

Andy-Pandy wrote: »

do it myself

You still have to buy stuff.

April O Neill · 30-08-2013 01:34AM

MadsL wrote: »

You've never been pressurised into attending leaving drinks/meal?

Not yet, no.

In my last workplace, we'd just go out to the local cafe for lunch, the whole lab. That's much better, IMO, and much cheaper.

fasttalkerchat · 30-08-2013 05:23AM

Just about to take a job that will cost €4200/year in commuting alone... more if petrol prices keep rising.

MadsL · 30-08-2013 05:56AM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Just about to take a job that will cost €4200/year in commuting alone... more if petrol prices keep rising.

Wow, that is a phenomenal amount per annum! How far is the commute?

holystungun9 · 30-08-2013 06:49AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

I worked it out and I reckon work costs me about a fiver a week.

Taking some highlighters, paper clips and post-its will offset that if you take enough.

fasttalkerchat · 30-08-2013 07:41AM

MadsL wrote: »

Wow, that is a phenomenal amount per annum! How far is the commute?

38 miles each way. May be able to cut it to €3000 by avoiding toll bridge.

Grayson · 30-08-2013 08:01AM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Just about to take a job that will cost €4200/year in commuting alone... more if petrol prices keep rising.

I have no idea how half the people I know own cars. They are so expensive.

I catch a train each way to work. There's a 15 minute walk to the station and a 20 minute walk to work then. And the train journey is about 20 minutes long. So I spend about 1 hour each way to work. But it's less than 20 a week in travel expenses.

Of course in a few weeks I'll be changing back to sunday shifts and then I'll have to spend €30 on a taxi on sunday mornings. Because irish rail in it's infinite wisdom has decided that no-one starts work before 11 on a sunday.

jimgoose · 30-08-2013 08:11AM

Umm, it's possible that I'm being hopelessly naive here, but after paying for everything and so forth I still have money left over after working. And I'd be eating lunch anyway, the only difference is I don't have to scrape it off the road. So I am of the view that it costs me nothing to go to work, quite the opposite. Who's been reading accountancy books written by window-licking lunatics? Now what did we say about that??

Ted_YNWA · 30-08-2013 08:21AM

I finish each month with marginally more than I started with because of my job.

If I didn't have the job

Commute - would be less
Food - neglible, still need to eat
Clothes - neglible, only update work wardrobe sporadically as it is.
Electricity et al If I was lounging around the house, leccy bill would be more.

Ush1 · 30-08-2013 08:42AM

mariaalice wrote: »

That's exactly farming is a great way of life particularly if you are not materialistic, its is hard manual labour but you are your own boss, work very near your home, don't need to put up with other people if you don't want.

Modern agriculture? Or this Jonestown type bulls*t?

30-08-2013 08:58AM

OP this book would be more practical in the Irish climate http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0751364428
John Seymour even had a school here - I think it is still going.

Your idea is something I have toyed with in the past and would be quite achievable for me as we have a small farm in the family but several things put me off - cash income - I like having cash to pay for holidays and the likes, living off the land wouldn't particularly allow for that - weather - sometimes you are at the mercy of the weather - retirement - you can never stop - what happens when you are elderly? - heating - you would need a chunk of land to plant something for firewood

Practically I will keep the day job and start gardening once I build my home.

doolox · 30-08-2013 09:07AM

I now have a life structure which suits me down to the ground.

After working for 30 yrs in multinational technology companies I have been self employed in a completely different field doing a few hours for about 10 different regular clients and also some occasional casual work.

I hated the pressures and politics of work where difficulties were brought about by people not doing their work on time or to a sufficient standard but other people being too afraid to report them or correct them.

In my present job I depend on no one else but me and if things go wrong I have nobody else to blame but me.

A lot of the negative stuff at work is caused by people not doing their jobs and trying to push the blame or the workload onto other people. I see it all the time in workplaces I visit where employees pass by things that need to be done and leave stuff untended until the boss finds out and the rows start.......

It can be infuriating working for an ineffective boss where supervision is slack and stuff gets left undone to the last minute.

Also infuriating are delays in receiving deliverables from other people that make you late for your next appointment and make you look bad in front of your next client.

Sleepy · 30-08-2013 02:08PM

MadsL wrote: »

€5k for an acre. Plead, plead, plead for PP for a sustainable recycled materials dwelling say €10-15k spent building that.

Next steps? Solar? Wind?

So €20k to start with/

Not to mention that you'd stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting some agricultural land in the back of nowhere re-zoned nevermind getting your PP granted.

You'd also end up so far out from civilisation that running a car would be a necessity which means more bills...

It's a lovely idea and one I've thought of in the past (though my variant would involve buying and living aboard a small sailing boat, living off what you can catch with a few fishing lines off the back and earning a few quid doing pleasure cruises / giving people lifts around the Med etc.) but for the vast majority of us, it's a pipe-dream that needs a decent chunk of start-up capital.

Citroen2cv · 30-08-2013 02:15PM

How much does it cost me?.......
About three fiddy.

Fishyfreak · 30-08-2013 02:34PM

You missed an important category.............. Lotto/Euromillions.

Nobody wants to be that bitter person left behind while the whole Department has won the jackpot. They are selling fear goddamit!

Maximus Alexander · 30-08-2013 02:45PM

Work doesn't cost me anything, apart from time. But then what else am I going to do with it? I have a net monetary gain every month. Is this not how it works for everyone? Why would you work at all otherwise?

I feel like I might be missing the point.

shedweller · 30-08-2013 02:53PM

After creche fees and diesel, my wife works for €100 per week.

MadsL · 30-08-2013 06:28PM

Sleepy wrote: »

So €20k to start with/

Not to mention that you'd stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting some agricultural land in the back of nowhere re-zoned nevermind getting your PP granted.

You'd also end up so far out from civilisation that running a car would be a necessity which means more bills...

They tackle this by running an electric cart for local trips, powered from their solar setup and also have a couple of 'greaser' cars running on Waste Vegetable Oil which they collect for free from local restaurants.

Fishyfreak wrote: »

You missed an important category.............. Lotto/Euromillions.

Nobody wants to be that bitter person left behind while the whole Department has won the jackpot. They are selling fear goddamit!

I remember a former colleague getting pissy because I asked the boss if he was also in for €2 as I was going across to buy a syndicate ticket. He was fuming that it wouln't be as fun if the boss also won. I was quite clear about the lack of f.cks I would give if I won 36 million. Odd chap.

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Work doesn't cost me anything, apart from time. But then what else am I going to do with it? I have a net monetary gain every month. Is this not how it works for everyone? Why would you work at all otherwise?

I feel like I might be missing the point.

Most precious thing you have?

shedweller wrote: »

After creche fees and diesel, my wife works for €100 per week.

Why? Is the €100 a week essential?

Sleepy · 30-08-2013 08:26PM

shedweller wrote: »

After creche fees and diesel, my wife works for €100 per week.

Is that just after her half of the creche fees? Or are you ignoring the fact that the creche is working on your behalf too?

That said, I can understand the maths. My wife is a stay at home mother and, tbh, if she could find something to that earned €100 a week more than the after school care would cost us she'd jump at it.

How much does your job cost you?

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