Biffo still refuses to apologise for destroying the country

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Nobody was complaining we were all living beyond our means then, were they? When they were driving brand new cars and taking out 100% mortgages on a house their job was never going to be able to pay for, or when the dole was over 200 euro.

For the record, not all of us were living beyond our means.

I didn't drive a brand new car, I didn't take out 100% mortgage and I have never taken any dole.

There was a portion of us who were, but I refuse to accept the blame for a recession which was instigated overwhelmingly by poor banking regulation and incompetent politicians.

This 'it's the public's fault' is one of the reasons why Fianna Fail's approval rating is steadily increasing and I for one am afraid of letting those f*ckers anywhere near the controls again.

krudler wrote: »

I'd genuinely love to know how state pensions are justified, 130k a year? that's double or triple what Joe Public earns for working, and he gets it for doing precisely fcuk all.

Because who sets the penstions and legalises them...? The government!

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Why would he apologise? It was a global recession, pretty much every country was hit with it.

I recall one interview after a budget, think it was 2007, that was done with FG and they ran FF into the ground for not giving the social welfare a bigger chunk of money, so going on that interview and pinhead kenny telling people they should spend more I think two things.
1. The country would have been in the sh1ts regardless of who was in charge.
2. FG clearly didn't see it coming either.

Nobody was complaining we were all living beyond our means then, were they? When they were driving brand new cars and taking out 100% mortgages on a house their job was never going to be able to pay for, or when the dole was over 200 euro.

It's very easy to sit back and point the blame at other people but the fact is not everyone was affected so bad that they still feel hard done by 6 years later.

Build a bridge, get over it and leave the Brian Cowen witch hunt back in 2010, were done with it.

Everything about this post makes me feel physically ill.
First of all, the oppsition doesn't matter, they weren't in power. They'll just give out about whatever the government does.
Secondly, it doesn't matter if you think we'd be in the same mess if FG were in charge. They weren't in charge, FF were, and they are 100% to blame for this mess.
Thirdly, not everybody were living beyond their means. That bint Amanda Brunker was on telly a while ago making similar claims. "We all had one hell of a party". Fúck off, no we didn't. Speak for yourself.
Fourthy (is that a word?) "build a bridge"? Translation is "leave poor brian and bertie alone on their €130k a year pensions". The guy should be hounded day and night and never be given a seconds peace.
BTW, just googled it, he's 53 years old and getting €130 a year pension while the working public are paying through the nose for his fúckups.

Phoebas wrote: »

Kenny mightn't be the best Taoiseach we ever had, but if you think he's no better than Cowan then you're not paying attention.

He might have a different name, but he comes from the same school of incompetence & ineptitude. Similar to his predecessors, he also graduated with an honours degree in spinelessness. The prototypical 'yes' man, the pinnacle of his career will be the playful pat on the head he received from Sarkozy. Pathetic fúck.

racso1975 wrote: »

He inherited a heap of ****e from Bertie whom we as a nation voted in for 3 successive terms. I fail to see how the blame lands soley with biffo

Surveyor11 wrote: »

He was also minister of finance before Taoiseach. So perfectly culpable.

this is the point. he was minister for finance during the boom years, it was his responsibility to recognise what was going on and put the brakes on accordingly. he WAS warned by multiple people but chose to ignore it all. terrifyingly he then got the top job at the worst possible time in Irish history.

we had possibly the least skilled (a fair comment based on his record) operator at the helm at the most important time since independence. in short merkel and the other leaders of the eu saw exactly how far out of his depth he was and completely destroyed him.

the irish tax payer bailed out the banking debts of private german (and others) banks without even any type of concession from the germans and the other debtor countries. do you think it would have been the same if it had been the other way round? not one inch was given or even asked for by that man. he even took their line in public and told the irish people to swallow it.

they took a risk to lend money at interest and they did not do the proper due diligence. its down to the lender to asses the risk and lend accordingly. its THEIR responsibility. they should have been burnt for most if not all of the debts to non-systemic banks like anglo. they kept all the profits in the good times, then got bailed out by the irish tax payer when it went wrong.

a treasonous act in my book and i would love to see some sort of investigation into every aspect of his tenure as he needs to go to prison for what he did. the fact that not one of these guys has even been in the dock is a disgrace and we should be ashamed. in the uk they just put a mp in prison for a driving offense. thats the way it should be.

Boombastic wrote: »

^^Why didn't he out Bertie for the scum that he is, instead of quietly stepping in to help hide his mess?


It wasn't the Germans, it was mostly Americans

bertie had no part in the bank gaurentee, that was the thing that did for us.

the biggest debtor nation was germany, not the us.

Clareboy wrote: »

What ever one says about Biffo, one would have to admit that his gombeen credentials are impeccable, being the son of a TD, publican, auctioneer and undertaker and of course married to the daughter of a Fianna Fail publican. He certainly fitted the image of your typical FF rural TD - over-paid, over-fed, over-weight, over-stuffed and over-bloated!

Jasus, the stereotypical FFer. Along with not seeming to give a crap about the mess he made, and insist he's completely blameless, he fits that stereotype in every way

DeanAustin wrote: »

The buck stops with FF, the deserve a lot of the sh!t thrown their way but they didn't cause this mess on their own.

They were the government. They made the decisions that overheated the economy for electoral gain. No other body/business/political-party had the power to make the decisions that Bertie & Cowen made. To blame others suggests you have FF genes.

racso1975 wrote: »

He inherited a heap of ****e from Bertie whom we as a nation voted in for 3 successive terms. I fail to see how the blame lands soley with biffo

Everyone needs to read The Builders by Frank Mc Donald & Kathy Sheridan

Your head will fall off when you read the failures of Bertie and Brian C.and the BS that went on .

DeanAustin wrote: »

For example, a good opposition, and it's easy to say this with hindsight I grant you, would have been shouting that we're heading for a big crash. They weren't. The opposition were looking for us to continue spending like we were and the only argument was not over how much we were spending but on what we were going to spend it on.

What opposition? Our so called opposition backed the government on every major decision, i don't really recall them opposing jack shít, and now that they're in power what are they doing that the last bunch of clowns wouldn't be doing?
It really is a case of tweedle dee or tweedle dum in this country. It's tweedle dee's turn next i think!