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Biffo still refuses to apologise for destroying the country

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Cue, loads of drunk references..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    I blame hawkeye


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    He inherited a heap of ****e from Bertie whom we as a nation voted in for 3 successive terms. I fail to see how the blame lands soley with biffo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Ah leave Brian alone, sure isn't he a grand lad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    racso1975 wrote: »
    He inherited a heap of ****e from Bertie whom we as a nation voted in for 3 successive terms. I fail to see how the blame lands soley with biffo

    Ipso fatso


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Hardly his fault in all fairness, I dislike the fat lump but if someone is to blame then it's Bertie and Irish greed of not wanting the gravy train to stop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    racso1975 wrote: »
    He inherited a heap of ****e from Bertie whom we as a nation voted in for 3 successive terms. I fail to see how the blame lands soley with biffo
    B0llox. Some people can go into a failed situation and turn it around through good management. Others go in and make it worse. He made it worse, not better and his games of golf with bankers stink to high heaven. Bell-end of the highest order who has got off scot free, like all the rest. A shrug, some distance and a fat pension. No consequences, just more of the same entitled arrogance. Typical Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭Surveyor11


    He was also minister of finance before Taoiseach. So perfectly culpable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭hansfrei


    Fat b@stard. Hope he rots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    Him and Bertie need to be water boarded...in Mary Harney's urine.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    He's not worried cos he knows its not his burden, rather he continues to be paid from the public pocket. Disgrace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,952 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    racso1975 wrote: »
    He inherited a heap of ****e from Bertie whom we as a nation voted in for 3 successive terms. I fail to see how the blame lands soley with biffo

    Well it wasn't all his fault... But I thought he was the minister for finance
    That created out woes...
    Or is he using the" a bold boy did it and ran away defence "

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Eight Ball


    130k a year and yet we announce cuts to disability services. Some country alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 clark nova


    He was a useless capstone on a hill of useless, blame him all you want but the fact is we as a country couldn't muster up a good politician if our lives depended on it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Fianna fail, a proud party of crooks thieves and liars!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    racso1975 wrote: »
    He inherited a heap of ****e from Bertie whom we as a nation voted in for 3 successive terms. I fail to see how the blame lands soley with biffo
    You need to change we to the majority as I as well as many others never voted for them ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Feathers


    Himself & Brian Lennihan agreed the guarantee, which is the real millstone around our necks. Can't blame that one on Bertie, or on "there were no signs it was coming".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    He's acknowledging his wrongdoings more than that slimy snake Bertie Ahern has ever done.

    I want rte to replay the Mike Murphy interview with slimy snake Ahern. Mike gave him a good going over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 708 ✭✭✭Timothy Bryce


    The seeds were sewn during the boom, thanks to the light touch regulation of the banks.

    This happened on his watch of MoF


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I'd genuinely love to know how state pensions are justified, 130k a year? that's double or triple what Joe Public earns for working, and he gets it for doing precisely fcuk all.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    B0llox. Some people can go into a failed situation and turn it around through good management. Others go in and make it worse. He made it worse, not better and his games of golf with bankers stink to high heaven. Bell-end of the highest order who has got off scot free, like all the rest. A shrug, some distance and a fat pension. No consequences, just more of the same entitled arrogance. Typical Ireland.

    In fairness, Bertie and McCreevey and Harney had made such a clusterfuck of things before Cowen became Taoiseach that no amount of good management could have turned things around. Of course Cowen has a shitload of the blame to take himself as do the bankers who lied to him and Lenihan on the night of the bank guarantee.

    I'm no fan of Cowen but when it comes to issuing apologies, he can join the queue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    sniveling little b@stard gives an interview with the 'Comhra' programme

    come out and do a live TV interview on mainstream TV you disgusting nation destroying coward


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Why would he apologise? It was a global recession, pretty much every country was hit with it.

    I recall one interview after a budget, think it was 2007, that was done with FG and they ran FF into the ground for not giving the social welfare a bigger chunk of money, so going on that interview and pinhead kenny telling people they should spend more I think two things.
    1. The country would have been in the sh1ts regardless of who was in charge.
    2. FG clearly didn't see it coming either.

    Nobody was complaining we were all living beyond our means then, were they? When they were driving brand new cars and taking out 100% mortgages on a house their job was never going to be able to pay for, or when the dole was over 200 euro.

    It's very easy to sit back and point the blame at other people but the fact is not everyone was affected so bad that they still feel hard done by 6 years later.

    Build a bridge, get over it and leave the Brian Cowen witch hunt back in 2010, were done with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    Surprising amount of people defending Brian C. On that evidence I reckon we'll get that housing bubble inflated again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The government of the day knew damn well that the property market was about to go down the toilet, but their developer and banking buddies had their hands so far up FF's arses that the government refused to do anything which might upset them.

    John Corrigan, the head of the NTMA*, advised his daughter in early 2006 against buying property because the market was about to dip and she would lose out big time. This is the man in charge of the state's entire asset portfolio. He could see that the property market was fncked 12 months in advance of the collapse, which means that the government of the day were aware.

    They were warned, continually. They ignored the warnings, continually. Cowen as minister for Finance at the time arguably is more culpable than Bertie, who was just a rubber-stamper.

    If Cowen is claiming that he didn't know and there was nothing that could be done, then he's both a fool and a liar.

    *Clarification: At the time he wasn't head of the NTMA, he was investment director of the NPRF. So if anyone knew what investments were good and bad at the time, it was him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Melon head


    The fella we have in charge is no better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    Melon head wrote: »
    The fella we have in charge is no better.

    Whether that is true or not is irrelevant. Brian Cowen still has a lot to answer for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭danmanw8


    I've very little sympathy for Cowen but even he is letting Bertie Ahern off the hook. Make no mistake it was Bertie (I'll do 3 terms) Ahern who sent this country towards the cliff. He bought elections by pumping the economy with "fake" money to ensure he won the election. The economy was already screwed in late 2006 but he continued to pump it to win the election in 2007. His own selfish ambition to be the only Taoiseach to get 3 consecutive terms was behind him mortgaging the lives of ordinary taxpayers for decades.
    By the time Cowen became Taoiseach the damage was done, his mistake was the pretense that all was fine and guaranteeing the banks without doing any assessment of how bad the problem at the banks was. That was definitely negligent but was just another symptom of the problem Ahern had created.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    There must at least be a law brought in to restrict pensions like his until people are 65.

    The taxpayer just can't afford it.
    True enough - 'though I find it a bit odd that while compaining that the taxpayer can't afford it in your post, you're encouraging people to evade their taxes in your sig.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,433 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    DIpso fatso

    FYP


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