Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

Always_Running · 26-08-2013 10:34PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Respectfully, I think you're miles off with this. If you are a serious team with serious aspirations you simply have to assume you're going to be in the final.

You hear platitudes in every sport about taking it one game at a time and all this rubbish, but all the serious teams construct their entire existence around being there at the end.

If that means once in a while you get caught on the hop and dumped out in a quarter-final - say for example Kerry losing to Down in 2010 - then that's a hazard you have to live with, but you still absolutely have to plan your whole year around peaking for one game and one game only at the end of September.

The day James Horan convinced the people involved in the Mayo set up to stop apologising for wanting to win an All Ireland is the day this team finally had a serious chance to do so.

I don't think Horan will have people apologising however he is one of those managers that does take it one step at a time e.g game 1 to 5 competed now game 6 the biggest challenge of all.

Fr Tod made the prediction that Mayo would reach the final because he didn't see any side in Mayos path that would beat them and in hindsight he was right as no Connacht team,unprepared Donegal or Tyrone nowhere near the level of their 05,08 teams were ever going to beat this current Mayo side.

InchicoreDude · 26-08-2013 10:38PM

Here's a question for ye Mayo lads as ye would have seen a lot more of Mayo than most people in the last couple of years. So we have Mayo in the final again this year.

Mayo 2012 v Mayo 2013: Which is the better team? And why?

ColeTrain · 26-08-2013 10:45PM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Here's a question for ye Mayo lads as ye would have seen a lot more of Mayo than most people in the last couple of years. So we have Mayo in the final again this year.

Mayo 2012 v Mayo 2013: Which is the better team? And why?

Team's the same, just got more fierce

Syferus · 26-08-2013 11:23PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Team's the same, just got more fierce

I suppose if it works for Beyoncé..

Fowler87 · 26-08-2013 11:31PM

yop wrote: »

Roughly where in the County are you? If it recorded I can meet you with the HDD And copy it over. I am up in Cbar and up and down to Gway 3 days a week.

Just got sorted for a copy. Cheers yop anyhow

Loafing Oaf · 27-08-2013 12:10AM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Here's a question for ye Mayo lads as ye would have seen a lot more of Mayo than most people in the last couple of years. So we have Mayo in the final again this year.

Mayo 2012 v Mayo 2013: Which is the better team? And why?

Arguably sum of parts is much the same, but v.2013 is that much better as a team and even more so as a squad. Now we can start Higgins in the forwards, lose COC early on, send Feeney on almost anywhere, and the machine keeps powering ahead...

Maybe losing the run of myself here, but I reckon we would win the All-Ireland even if we lost AOS...

naughto · 27-08-2013 12:13AM

Syferus wrote: »

I suppose if it works for Beyoncé..

have you seen the arse on her she could never run around a football field with a hole that big.

naughto · 27-08-2013 12:17AM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Here's a question for ye Mayo lads as ye would have seen a lot more of Mayo than most people in the last couple of years. So we have Mayo in the final again this year.

Mayo 2012 v Mayo 2013: Which is the better team? And why?

we are in the 3rd year of a three yr plan.we have made massive leaps forward in every yr,this yr there hard work of the the last 3yrs us oaying off

PTH2009 · 27-08-2013 12:28AM

cant see ye losing this final. Cork lost in 2009 and won it in 2010, Tipp lost the hurling final in 2009 and won it in 2010 too.

Clare for the hurling and Mayo for the football and of course Waterford for the minor hurling

Come on mayo give all the bad luck countys hope of winning

best of luck in the final

Syferus · 27-08-2013 12:49AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

cant see ye losing this final. Cork lost in 2009 and won it in 2010, Tipp lost the hurling final in 2009 and won it in 2010 too.

Clare for the hurling and Mayo for the football and of course Waterford for the minor hurling

Come on mayo give all the bad luck countys hope of winning

best of luck in the final

:mad:

I think you're forgetting someone.

ColeTrain · 27-08-2013 12:56AM

Syferus wrote: »

:mad:

I think you're forgetting someone.

What bad luck have you suffered?!

Always_Running · 27-08-2013 01:02AM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Here's a question for ye Mayo lads as ye would have seen a lot more of Mayo than most people in the last couple of years. So we have Mayo in the final again this year.

Mayo 2012 v Mayo 2013: Which is the better team? And why?

Mayo 2013 are fitter,stronger playing under a better system and are more focused than ever before.

Syferus · 27-08-2013 02:03AM

ColeTrain wrote: »

What bad luck have you suffered?!

Alot more than flipping Clare, that's for sure.

seligehgit · 27-08-2013 07:19AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Arguably sum of parts is much the same, but v.2013 is that much better as a team and even more so as a squad. Now we can start Higgins in the forwards, lose COC early on, send Feeney on almost anywhere, and the machine keeps powering ahead...

Maybe losing the run of myself here, but I reckon we would win the All-Ireland even if we lost AOS...

IMHO I'm not so sure we'd win the All Ireland if AOS got injured, mind you Barry Moran is a top class midfielder and as you've said it's all about the team.

Fr Tod Umptious · 27-08-2013 07:40AM

seligehgit wrote: »

IMHO I'm not so sure we'd win the All Ireland if AOS got injured, mind you Barry Moran is a top class midfielder and as you've said it's all about the team.

If you look at this year they have managed to weather the storm of injuries
So far we have had
Clarke
O Malley
Tom Cuniffe (came off injured v Donegal)
Barry Moran
O'Connor
Conroy
Doherty

As to why this team are better than 2012 I think it just down to experience and maturity.
Personnel wise they are much the same but they have improved their play this year.

Fr Tod Umptious · 27-08-2013 08:00AM

I'm going to talk about the ref for the final
And firstly I want to be clear that this is not a 'blame the ref' excuse long before a ball is even kicked, refs rarely decide a game and it's the nature of fans to only see the 'injustice' he does to their team.

Anyway, is it possible that Jo McQuillan of Cavan will be the ref for the final ?
He has not taken care of any semi and with the exception of Coldrick I cannot think of another ref that may be in the frame

Now if Dublin make the final and McQuillan is ref them I'm sure there will be plenty of debate, well a s**t storm rather than a debate, as there is a perception out there that he is very Dublin friendly.
He refereed Mayo v Dublin last year and to be honest I thought his mistakes were even enough on both teams.

yop · 27-08-2013 09:53AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm going to talk about the ref for the final
And firstly I want to be clear that this is not a 'blame the ref' excuse long before a ball is even kicked, refs rarely decide a game and it's the nature of fans to only see the 'injustice' he does to their team.

Anyway, is it possible that Jo McQuillan of Cavan will be the ref for the final ?
He has not taken care of any semi and with the exception of Coldrick I cannot think of another ref that may be in the frame

Now if Dublin make the final and McQuillan is ref them I'm sure there will be plenty of debate, well a s**t storm rather than a debate, as there is a perception out there that he is very Dublin friendly.
He refereed Mayo v Dublin last year and to be honest I thought his mistakes were even enough on both teams.

And he is the ref for their A V B games.

tacofries · 27-08-2013 09:54AM

That fan pic is class! Everyone around me has such a serious thick face on them,,, must have been when tyrone were taking their points!

Cosmo Kramer · 27-08-2013 12:59PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm going to talk about the ref for the final
And firstly I want to be clear that this is not a 'blame the ref' excuse long before a ball is even kicked, refs rarely decide a game and it's the nature of fans to only see the 'injustice' he does to their team.

Anyway, is it possible that Jo McQuillan of Cavan will be the ref for the final ?
He has not taken care of any semi and with the exception of Coldrick I cannot think of another ref that may be in the frame

Now if Dublin make the final and McQuillan is ref them I'm sure there will be plenty of debate, well a s**t storm rather than a debate, as there is a perception out there that he is very Dublin friendly.
He refereed Mayo v Dublin last year and to be honest I thought his mistakes were even enough on both teams.

If Dublin are in it they may go for Coldrick, if it's Kerry McQuillan might have more of a chance. Then again, who decides? Crap McEnaney? He's no friend of ours anyway.

ColeTrain · 27-08-2013 02:38PM

Mayo GAA blog reporting that O'Connor has a small chance of making it. Would be huge to have him on the bench even.

http://mayogaablog.com/?p=13517

Pray for Cillian#

wirelessdude01 · 27-08-2013 02:41PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Mayo GAA blog reporting that O'Connor has a small chance of making it. Would be huge to have him on the bench even.

http://mayogaablog.com/?p=13517

Pray for Cillian#

Honestly think there should be no pressure put on him to try and play. The lad needs his shoulder for teaching and he has a long playing and teaching career ahead of him that he needs a good shoulder for.

kevmy85 · 27-08-2013 02:48PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm going to talk about the ref for the final
And firstly I want to be clear that this is not a 'blame the ref' excuse long before a ball is even kicked, refs rarely decide a game and it's the nature of fans to only see the 'injustice' he does to their team.

Anyway, is it possible that Jo McQuillan of Cavan will be the ref for the final ?
He has not taken care of any semi and with the exception of Coldrick I cannot think of another ref that may be in the frame

Now if Dublin make the final and McQuillan is ref them I'm sure there will be plenty of debate, well a s**t storm rather than a debate, as there is a perception out there that he is very Dublin friendly.
He refereed Mayo v Dublin last year and to be honest I thought his mistakes were even enough on both teams.

I actually think McQuillian is the best around at the moment. Which may not be saying a lot. I thought Deegan gave soft frees on both sides the last day and generally not up to the pace of the game. 40 yards away for the peno and the Freeman disallowed goal.

One of the Duffys would be the other option. Both are very technical refs. Get 99% of the technical calls right but don't let the game flow and often miss serious off the ball goings on.

ColeTrain · 27-08-2013 02:49PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Honestly think there should be no pressure put on him to try and play. The lad needs his shoulder for teaching and he has a long playing and teaching career ahead of him that he needs a good shoulder for.

Absolutely but if there's a possibility that he could come in and give us 20 minutes then why not. At the end of the day the specialists will decide this, Horan and Cillian himself will not risk his playing career over it.

.ak · 27-08-2013 04:00PM

Apologies if this has been asked already, but what exactly is involved in getting tickets for the final? My mother is from Mayo and I'd like to her a ticket(s) for her 60th but I've never had to buy a ticket for an All Ireland final.

ColeTrain · 27-08-2013 04:08PM

.ak wrote: »

Apologies if this has been asked already, but what exactly is involved in getting tickets for the final? My mother is from Mayo and I'd like to her a ticket(s) for her 60th but I've never had to buy a ticket for an All Ireland final.

They won't be on general sale. All Mayo clubs will get a certain allocation along with season ticket members. Your best bet is to try clubs around the country ( they get 2 each ) or if you know someone involved with companies that sponsor or someone on a county panel. It will be very tough tbh especially if Dublin make it.

Syferus · 27-08-2013 04:18PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Absolutely but if there's a possibility that he could come in and give us 20 minutes then why not. At the end of the day the specialists will decide this, Horan and Cillian himself will not risk his playing career over it.

Given the option COC took in June it won't be the specialists' decision unless they give him absolutely no hope of featuring. COC if given the chance will very likely risk it and that would be monumentally stupid.

All-Ireland or no All-Ireland three serious shoulder injuries in 11 months should mean Horan nixes this one in the bud. It's already reached near-chronic level and it could already have shortened his career at age 21.

InchicoreDude · 27-08-2013 04:19PM

Andy Moran gave an interview on 2nd Captains today:

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/second-captains

He is first guest on. In case anybody wants to listen.....

Syferus · 27-08-2013 04:21PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Absolutely but if there's a possibility that he could come in and give us 20 minutes then why not. At the end of the day the specialists will decide this, Horan and Cillian himself will not risk his playing career over it.

Given the option COC took in June it won't be the specialists' decision unless they give him absolutely no hope of featuring. COC if given the chance will very likely risk it and that would be monumentally stupid.

All-Ireland or no All-Ireland three serious shoulder injuries in 11 months should mean Horan nixes this one in the bud. It's already reached near-chronic level and it could already have shortened his career at age 21.

ColeTrain · 27-08-2013 04:25PM

Syferus wrote: »

Given the option COC took in June it won't be the specialists' decision unless they give him absolutely no hope of featuring. COC if given the chance will very likely risk it and that would be monumentally stupid.

All-Ireland or no All-Ireland three serious shoulder injuries in 11 months should mean Horan nixes this one in the bud. It's already reached near-chronic level and it could already have shortened his career at age 21.

The decision will be decided on the back of the specialists opinion. We could talk about this all day but the fact is none of us know the ins and outs and the possible risks involved.
FWIW I wouldn't be too hopeful of him making it back for a place on the bench but we just don't know. Whatever happens I'm sure the right decision on this will be made and as a poster said above there should be no pressure on him, he's given plenty for the cause this season.

Cartman78 · 27-08-2013 04:30PM

.ak wrote: »

Apologies if this has been asked already, but what exactly is involved in getting tickets for the final? My mother is from Mayo and I'd like to her a ticket(s) for her 60th but I've never had to buy a ticket for an All Ireland final.

Go up to Dublin, get half-scuttered on the train on the way, continue drinking for the afternoon and then hang around outside the Big Tree after losing your buddies and laugh as a Garda on a horse trots by and offers you a ticket at face value :cool: ...worked for me last year anyway but not a guaranteed strategy by any means.

As previous posters have said, your best bet is half-knowing someone involved in a (prefarably) non-hurling GAA club outside of Mayo and Dublin/Kerry and seeing if they can get your name on a list for tickets. It's not exactly scientific either and has a 0% success rate in my experience

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