TUS Programme

Realtivity · 21-08-2013 10:30PM

CarrieLee wrote: »

Thanks for the info. I wonder if those two options apply as standard or if the penalties can differ from supervisor to supervisor as nothing seems to be set in stone with this scheme. I guess I'll find out for myself soon as I've been called for another interview. Joy!

The supervisor has no say in this. All he can do is tell the DSP that you are being uncooperative.

The decision to cut you would be made by a deciding officer in the DSP and these are the only 2 sanctions they have available to them under the Social Welfare Acts.

Fred Swanson · 21-08-2013 10:34PM

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CarrieLee · 21-08-2013 10:38PM

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I don't think that would make a difference as most of the positions they are forcing people into don't require a whole load of brain function; sweeping the streets, picking up litter etc.

They might as well make us all wear yellow stars whenever we go outside too.

Realtivity · 21-08-2013 10:39PM

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You are on the same track as I was!

The thing is though you are not even guaranteed that you will be interviewed for a position before it is offered to you.! It really is shocking stuff.

aN.Droid · 22-08-2013 01:15AM

CarrieLee wrote: »

Could do, but then they could just cut you off there and then and say you are being uncooperative. The thing is, in my area most people who are on this scheme seem to have been given jobs of picking up litter off the streets - talk about kicking someone when they are down.

No they haven't. You are placed with a charity / non profit that is local to your community. Most common placement would be in a community center.

Fred Swanson · 22-08-2013 01:27AM

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CarrieLee · 22-08-2013 01:36AM

Limericks wrote: »

No they haven't. You are placed with a charity / non profit that is local to your community. Most common placement would be in a community center.

Yes, they have actually. I personally know people doing this.

Realtivity · 22-08-2013 07:34PM

CarrieLee wrote: »

Yes, they have actually. I personally know people doing this.

I see them every morning wearing yellow high vis jackets bearing the name of the community employment agency. These people are cutting grass, picking up litter etc.,

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/unemployment_and_redundancy/employment_support_schemes/tus.html

Type of project

All the work carried out by participants in the Tús scheme will be community-based. The types of project eligible for the scheme may include:
•Environmental services (for example, conservation and maintenance of national walkways)
•Caring services (for example, childcare, care of older people)
•General community services (for example, newsletters or information provision for communities)
•Heritage and cultural services (for example, local heritage project)

deadpacman · 26-08-2013 09:56PM

nvm, sorted

Richhey · 03-09-2013 11:52AM

Hi, I'm Newbie there....but
could someone explain me, how much will I be paid for Tús if my JA is less than € 188 per week? Thank you

Richhey · 03-09-2013 01:52PM

Well then :
For new participants who started on or after 17 September 2012 the minimum weekly payment for participants (based on 19.5 hours worked) is €208.

If the actual Jobseeker's Allowance (including dependants) you were getting is €188 a week or less, then you will get the minimum Tús weekly rate of €208 (that is €188 plus €20). If your actual weekly Jobseeker's Allowance (including dependants) is €188.01 or more, then you will get the equivalent rate plus €20.

is not correct?

aN.Droid · 03-09-2013 02:14PM

Richhey wrote: »

Well then :
For new participants who started on or after 17 September 2012 the minimum weekly payment for participants (based on 19.5 hours worked) is €208.

If the actual Jobseeker's Allowance (including dependants) you were getting is €188 a week or less, then you will get the minimum Tús weekly rate of €208 (that is €188 plus €20). If your actual weekly Jobseeker's Allowance (including dependants) is €188.01 or more, then you will get the equivalent rate plus €20.

is not correct?

Yeah, a friend of mine was on a reduced payment but when he was called up for tus he started getting 188 plus 20 euro.

smiley_face400 · 03-09-2013 06:25PM

Richhey wrote: »

Hi, I'm Newbie there....but
could someone explain me, how much will I be paid for Tús if my JA is less than € 188 per week? Thank you

It'll be your rate plus €20 per week. Basically if you're on €188 you'll get €208, any less and you'll get that plus €20

04-09-2013 08:57AM

smiley_face400 wrote: »

It'll be your rate plus €20 per week. Basically if you're on €188 you'll get €208, any less and you'll get that plus €20

thats not true, i was on a reduced rate of JSA, i mean a really small amount and i get the full 208.00. by the way i love my placement, Im gaining invaluable skills and it beats sitting at home in despair depressed all day, i would urge people to try and extract something positive from it.

Crazyteacher · 04-09-2013 10:55AM

Saw someone with the hi vis tus jacket this morning, surely there should be some sort of privacy. I know hard to do in a high vis jacket but if it didnt say the words Tus programme on it, people wouldnt pass any notice on it and think they were a council or environmental employee.

smiley_face400 · 05-09-2013 10:05AM

Deleted User wrote: »

thats not true, i was on a reduced rate of JSA, i mean a really small amount and i get the full 208.00. by the way i love my placement, Im gaining invaluable skills and it beats sitting at home in despair depressed all day, i would urge people to try and extract something positive from it.

That's good to hear. I was told it was your current payment plus €20 a week. Then again, I was already on €188 on JA.

Feel the same about my placement too. It's great when you get somewhere you can gain and build on skills and much better than sitting at home despairing as you send application after application to no avail.

mrbrown69 · 06-09-2013 07:12PM

Crazyteacher wrote: »

Saw someone with the hi vis tus jacket this morning, surely there should be some sort of privacy. I know hard to do in a high vis jacket but if it didnt say the words Tus programme on it, people wouldnt pass any notice on it and think they were a council or environmental employee.

Privacy? Lol what a load of cobblers.....outside of a very small circle nobody would have a clue what Tus stands for, I'd seriously doubt many people did pass notice on it

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danjo-xx · 06-09-2013 07:37PM

mrbrown69 wrote: »

Privacy? Lol what a load of cobblers.....outside of a very small circle nobody would have a clue what Tus stands for, I'd seriously doubt many people did pass notice on it

with 500k unemployed I would say quite a lot of people would know what it is.

also over the years I've never heard of CE participants who worked in public areas having to wear gear with CE on them.

I wouldn't be happy wearing one, but if had to would black out the name with a marker.

Are they trying to identify people working on menial schemes (well in some areas of schemes) as Prisoners of the State:P

mrbrown69 · 06-09-2013 10:32PM

danjo-xx wrote: »

with 500k unemployed I would say quite a lot of people would know what it is.

also over the years I've never heard of CE participants who worked in public areas having to wear gear with CE on them.

I wouldn't be happy wearing one, but if had to would black out the name with a marker.

Are they trying to identify people working on menial schemes (well in some areas of schemes) as Prisoners of the State:P

I would say you're wrong, it's all about opinions...

where do you draw the line on privacy...should people not have to sign in the post office for their dole money for fear of being pointed at and ridiculed.....some people just think about things too much is all I'm saying

Fred Swanson · 06-09-2013 10:50PM

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Sephiroth_dude · 06-09-2013 11:23PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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lol

mrbrown69 · 07-09-2013 12:03AM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Yes but the little man or woman in the post office know ur collecting dole....they might talk....the horror of it all.....no wonder you don't see road sweepers with their carts anymore, people pointing at his brush and gossiping

meh

Richhey · 10-09-2013 04:58PM

Hello,
How long does the process of Garda Vetting take? Thanks

zenno · 10-09-2013 05:04PM

Richhey wrote: »

Hello,
How long does the process of Garda Vetting take? Thanks

I think it's six months now as they have just employed 25 new people to try and get the que down. It could be longer than six months though.

LegacyUser · 11-09-2013 03:56PM

Had a interview for the Tus program 2 weeks ago and went really well compared to some of the things I read on here beforehand so said I'd post here and share, might help someone!

The interview was held in my local employment service building, everyone had there own separate time for the interview which was great, was interviewed by a man and women, one went through my CV as the other explained about the program and then I was asked about what I was interested in doing.

I have a degree in IT but unsurprisingly they didn't have anything to suit and they they went through a list of 8 jobs, most of which were grass cutting, maintenance work and one for looking after elderly people. Was asked if any jobs jumped up at me and said no none do and they were very understanding about it and then they advised me on contacting my local employment officer and trying to get a job somewhere IT based for trial work and then they said they would write back to social welfare stating they didn't have anything suitable for me!
All quite so far but you never know what could happen

aN.Droid · 13-09-2013 03:57AM

I finished my placement early about 4 weeks ago now. Finished as I am doing a college course. Here is my experience.

I am very IT oriented and very advanced in the subject. I told them this and that I would not be suitable for minding children or elderly folk or janitorial work. They were fine with this and told me they would let me know if something was available that I would be suitable for.

A week later I got a phonecall. Local community center needed someone with IT skills. I thought great! Went for the interview and everything seemed fine so I accepted a placement there. The first day I was asked to take an inventory of the IT stock. Which I was fine with. I had it done in a few hours. I told the person in charge at the time I was done and I was told to slow down! I was working too fast! I thought to myself okay that is fine maybe they just didn't know how fast I worked and thought it would take longer. I thought maybe I would get better and more challenging work soon.

Well it never came. I was stuck behind reception for I would say 90% of my placement. Answering phone calls and general reception duties. It was about once a week I did anything IT.

I was very annoyed about this and so was my boss from tus (one of the soundest guys I have met in awhile)

Basically in my 4 months with them I learned nothing and feel I was taken for a ride. While it was in no way tus's fault as they have since told me that they will never place anyone in there again.

My advice to people going on tus placement is to make 100% sure of what your responsibilities are when you are taken on and to make sure there is enough work for you and they are not just taking you one because it is free labor!

Other then the lack of work though I had a good time. The people were nice and overall it was a pleasurable experience other than the boredom I would have most of the time as I was idle.

myneo · 16-09-2013 10:45AM

Hi. I got a letter this morning to go on this tus thing. so angry. i mean really angry. was wondering what to do. so thanks for all the comments and posts and info. thank god for the internet.
it's great to read genuine and real and caring people in a world so full of crap.

mrbrown69 · 16-09-2013 06:00PM

myneo wrote: »

Hi. I got a letter this morning to go on this tus thing. so angry. i mean really angry. was wondering what to do. so thanks for all the comments and posts and info. thank god for the internet.
it's great to read genuine and real and caring people in a world so full of crap.

Hi...why so angry? it's 19 hrs a week nothing too draconian....in that time you can still job search and quit the programme should you be successful, might help people understand better if you can explain what else you're up to in that time that's making you so angry not being able to do it

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Realtivity · 17-09-2013 01:09PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Where is this advice? Can you give us the posting reference number?

All I can find is a suggestion that one should appear "a bit thick" at the interview!

This is unlikely to influence an employer looking for someone to clean up litter!

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