TUS Programme

hayleyy2013

it s fecking annoying so it is because ex junkies and alcos are on illness benefit and not jsa so how come they get away with it!!
How the hell is that an illness when they put themselves there and there let away scot free this country is backwards even with the household charge if your unemployed you still have to pay it.
They simply cant force me to do a tus programme when i am intending on doing a course in sept /october.

Faith+1

StillWaters wrote: »

I don't know why this makes you mad. Pregnancy isn't an illness. Many many women work right up to confinement. TUS participants are entitled to the same maternity leave as other workers.

Because whats the point in doing a placement for a few short months and then having to pack it in? It simply shows they don't give a fcuk who they put on the placement and the emphasis is based on reducing the live register numbers and not helping the participants. That's why I p*ssed.

zoeenya

I just got this letter, I was planning on starting college in September and I am just waiting on my offers to come through. Can i still go to college and do this?? would love to do it as i have volunteered for a charity for last two years and I will be studying social care, seems to be to do with what I want to do.

Fred Swanson

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Crazyteacher

Can you elaborate on that please Fred? Do they force you in to everything? Got a letter myself this morning, feeling very forced in to it. Like we've no minds of our own.

smiley_face400

hayleyy2013 wrote: »

i also recieved a letter from these went to an interview last wk and they told me that i will be working 19.5hrs a week i did say to them i have a five year old child and im four+ months pregnant with my second.that didnt seem to bother her
would i be better off going to single parent seeing as i would have to pay for chilcare for my child.
Its hard enough being in dublin without this happening and i know my partner wouldnt look after my 5 yr old child as its not his and he has full time in college.
anybody with any ideas need an answer asap

There's space on the letter to say if you have a reasonable excuse for not participating in the programme. Why didn't you state it then or mention in the interview that you don't see the point because you'll only have a few months and then be on maternity leave. They're not completely heartless! One of the main points of Tus is getting out there and making contacts with people who might be able to get you a permanent position and they can also see who's serious about finding a job and who's just coasting along on benefits without bothering to look for a job/further themselves at all

just got this letter, I was planning on starting college in September and I am just waiting on my offers to come through. Can i still go to college and do this?? would love to do it as i have volunteered for a charity for last two years and I will be studying social care, seems to be to do with what I want to do.

Go to the interview, explain this to them. I had an interview for a permanent job coming up just after my first Tus interview so I asked them to hold off until I hear and they did. They'll be reasonable with you if you're reasonable with them

hayleyy2013

smiley_face400 wrote: »

There's space on the letter to say if you have a reasonable excuse for not participating in the programme. Why didn't you state it then or mention in the interview that you don't see the point because you'll only have a few months and then be on maternity leave. They're not completely heartless! One of the main points of Tus is getting out there and making contacts with people who might be able to get you a permanent position and they can also see who's serious about finding a job and who's just coasting along on benefits without bothering to look for a job/further themselves at all



Go to the interview, explain this to them. I had an interview for a permanent job coming up just after my first Tus interview so I asked them to hold off until I hear and they did. They'll be reasonable with you if you're reasonable with them

i told her and put it on the form as one of the reasons and her percise words to me were well that wouldnt be a valid reason ten explained about the maternity leave althoughi also said i was starting a course in sept/october my forms were still processed because my confirmation form from college hasnt been sent to me yet

zoeenya

Hi guys, thanks very much, i rang the number on the letter and they said that because I have applied for college way back in December, this is a valid reason not to go to interview. But I am going to go to the interview and see if I can do both, probably not but we'll see! What jobs have people done on the Tus Programme??

jos22

Faith+1 wrote: »

Because whats the point in doing a placement for a few short months and then having to pack it in? It simply shows they don't give a fcuk who they put on the placement and the emphasis is based on reducing the live register numbers and not helping the participants. That's why I p*ssed.

as part of the meeting they ask you if you have child care or other dependence.

they can arrange hours to around those needs, in some case depending on work type you could do them from home etc.

hayleyy2013

''as part of the meeting they ask you if child care or other dependence. they can arrange hours to around tho some case depending on work type y them from home etc.''

jos22 in reply to your text above i told the woman i had a five year old child and no one to mind her and she said that wasnt there problem i have to sort the childcare/childminding out in which i will be paying by myself.
I now have to send them the confirmation letter before i get the second interview from tus.

Faith+1

jos22 wrote: »

as part of the meeting they ask you if you have child care or other dependence.

they can arrange hours to around those needs, in some case depending on work type you could do them from home etc.

She has a child and is also a few months pregnant which shows they don't give a f*ck. It keeps employers happy because they get free labour, the Tus people happy because it keeps them in a job and creates a revolving door of slaves.
This programme is like putting spinkles on sh*t.

smiley_face400

hayleyy2013 wrote: »

i told her and put it on the form as one of the reasons and her percise words to me were well that wouldnt be a valid reason ten explained about the maternity leave althoughi also said i was starting a course in sept/october my forms were still processed because my confirmation form from college hasnt been sent to me yet

My initial forms were processed also after I told them about the job interviews but I wasn't sent for an interview for an actual placement until after I called them to tell them I hadn't got the job.

If you feel they aren't taking your issues with maternity leave seriously ring social welfare directly yourself and talk to someone about it.

Backstreet Moyes

I said i would ask here somebody might know. I left a TUS scheme after a few months because i was not doing what i was supposed to be doing. I also was struggling dealing with vunrable people on the phones. When i left they were not happy and i never put it on my C.V.

I have got an interview in a call centre next week. It is not my ideal job but i know a few people who really like it out their. My question is will i need to inform them about my time at TUS. They will find out i didn't like dealing with vunerable people and i can see that being a big disadvantage to getting the job. When i am signing a contract will i have to show them a p45 from the TUS job or does it count because it was only an internship.

mcgocks

is this a full time job or through the Government schemes?

danjo-xx

Nuts102 wrote: »

When i am signing a contract will i have to show them a p45 from the TUS job or does it count because it was only an internship.

You will only have to provide your P45 after you start work.

Backstreet Moyes

mcgocks wrote: »

is this a full time job or through the Government schemes?

It is a full time job.

Backstreet Moyes

danjo-xx wrote: »

You will only have to provide your P45 after you start work.

Do you think it is ok to leave it off my C.V. Can they fire me for not mentioning it until i have to give them my P45.

danjo-xx

Nuts102 wrote: »

Do you think it is ok to leave it off my C.V. Can they fire me for not mentioning it until i have to give them my P45.

I can't see how they could fire you.... my main worry would be how to avoid mentioning it at interview... as your usually asked what have you been doing recently......

I think your worrying too much about your reason for packing in the tus job.. you don't have to give the exact reason for leaving it...and it's good to show that you have being trying to get suitable work and better yourself.

Backstreet Moyes

danjo-xx wrote: »

I can't see how they could fire you.... my main worry would be how to avoid mentioning it at interview... as your usually asked what have you been doing recently......

I think your worrying too much about your reason for packing in the tus job.. you don't have to give the exact reason for leaving it...and it's good to show that you have being trying to get suitable work and better yourself.

I know i am doing a computer course at the moment to refresh my college skills i could probably say that. I am worried if i mention the TUS job and not give the full reason the might contact this place about why i left.

Fred Swanson

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smiley_face400

Nuts102 wrote: »

I said i would ask here somebody might know. I left a TUS scheme after a few months because i was not doing what i was supposed to be doing. I also was struggling dealing with vunrable people on the phones. When i left they were not happy and i never put it on my C.V.

I have got an interview in a call centre next week. It is not my ideal job but i know a few people who really like it out their. My question is will i need to inform them about my time at TUS. They will find out i didn't like dealing with vunerable people and i can see that being a big disadvantage to getting the job. When i am signing a contract will i have to show them a p45 from the TUS job or does it count because it was only an internship.

I'd put it on my CV anyway as it's still relevant work experience. If they ask you the reason for leaving just say it wasn't the right fit for you. Just don't bad-mouth Tus or the place you were working like you wouldn't any other previous employer. Even if you hated it you still learned that that's not what you want to do which is relevant to finding the right job in the long run

Backstreet Moyes

smiley_face400 wrote: »

I'd put it on my CV anyway as it's still relevant work experience. If they ask you the reason for leaving just say it wasn't the right fit for you. Just don't bad-mouth Tus or the place you were working like you wouldn't any other previous employer. Even if you hated it you still learned that that's not what you want to do which is relevant to finding the right job in the long run

I know just my main worry is if they contact them looking for a reference.

Fred Swanson

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Backstreet Moyes

I had the interview for the paying job and it went quite well. I also had a CE scheme interview a few days ago. The CE scheme job would actually help get experience with my C.V and sounds interesting. If offered both i will have a decision a paying job in a call center tough work or getting experience.

My pain problem is i will ask anyway although i presume it's legal. With the CE scheme job you can be flexible with 15 and 1/2 hours during the week. But because of it being the busy time you have to work 3-7 every Saturday. This is i think a bit unfair. I catch up with friends on a Saturday who are working during the week. I will miss the football which i love watching. It would also take me an hour to get home and it would make it be akward if going out on a Saturday night. I would have no problem working maybe 1 weekend in every 3 or going in say 9-1 etc. But surely the fully paid staff should be doing these weekend hours. Some might say i am moaning but it's bad enough being working for €20 extra and be expected to ruin your Saturday's. Is anybody stuck in this boat.

StillWaters

The CE job is advertised as having Saturday working. It's not unfair if it's stated upfront. If it doesn't suit you take the call centre job (which I think you should take anyway, a paid job will always look better on your CV than supported employment).

Cheerful Spring

danjo-xx wrote: »

You will only have to provide your P45 after you start work.

I'm starting a TUS administration job next week. When i gave him my P45 he politely said i do not need it.

I doubt i do seen i am not been taxed by TUS?

danjo-xx

Originally Posted by danjo-xx
You will only have to provide your P45 after you start work.

my comment was about starting a proper job, not about starting a TUS placement.

Leona Howarth

rsole1 wrote: »

Hi Had a letter from Social Protection inviting me to participate on a TUS Programme. I have done an internet search and there seems to be very little "chatter" about it from people who have been on it, does anyone have any experience of it? I know how much it pays and a broad idea of what type of jobs etc, but would like some first hand experience from people in the know. Sounds a bit like a CE Scheme.

He started back in March 2013 and when he was approached he was delighted and thought of it as a worth while step in the right direction. There is not a lot of information on the net regarding this scheme simply because you have to sign a contract and there is a confidentially portion to this contract that.

"that any information aquired during this placement should not be revealed, except as authorised or required by assigned duties or statutory requirements. This restriction shall continue to apply after termination of the contract without limit in time"

That means that anything you learn on the scheme your not allowed to discuss forever. How can this be helpfull for people wanting to gain works experience? Also how do you enter this on your CV for future job applications when you are strictly bound by this agreement?

He wishes that he had never been approached for the schems, he is treated like **** and still after 5 months has not recieved personal protective safety gear, a total breach of Health and safety. They have no regard for anybody, they threaten you with getting the sack if you dont tow the line, they bully people, they lie to you b4 you start. Be sure to read throughly your contract and also do the same for the Participant job holder hand book, it's really iffy and a contract in disguise!!!! My advice, stay clear it's run like a Mafia.

Backstreet Moyes

Leona Howarth wrote: »

He started back in March 2013 and when he was approached he was delighted and thought of it as a worth while step in the right direction. There is not a lot of information on the net regarding this scheme simply because you have to sign a contract and there is a confidentially portion to this contract that.

"that any information aquired during this placement should not be revealed, except as authorised or required by assigned duties or statutory requirements. This restriction shall continue to apply after termination of the contract without limit in time"

That means that anything you learn on the scheme your not allowed to discuss forever. How can this be helpfull for people wanting to gain works experience? Also how do you enter this on your CV for future job applications when you are strictly bound by this agreement?

He wishes that he had never been approached for the schems, he is treated like **** and still after 5 months has not recieved personal protective safety gear, a total breach of Health and safety. They have no regard for anybody, they threaten you with getting the sack if you dont tow the line, they bully people, they lie to you b4 you start. Be sure to read throughly your contract and also do the same for the Participant job holder hand book, it's really iffy and a contract in disguise!!!! My advice, stay clear it's run like a Mafia.

The thing Leona is you don't get a choice. Once your in their sights it's hard to get out of it. If you turn down a placement you can get cut on the dole. From my experience anyway i was told i would be doing a job helping my finance degree instead i sat around twiddling my thumbs answering phones all day. The scheme has a good few flaws. It is not ideal and i wouldn't be thrilled to be back on a scheme. But if i got a job where i was getting good experience in what i want to than i would be happy to do it. The problem is people are getting pushed into jobs that are of little benefit.

Cheerful Spring

I was told by my TUS supervisor, the business that gave me a job, was a non profit business.

That was a lie. The business i am working for is not non profit. The job is ok, but is TUS breaking their own rules here. Anyone know.

Maybe they though i was an idiot and would not notice?