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People who don't like music

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  • #122
    jacksie66
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  • #123
    studiorat
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    GorillaRising wrote: »
    What the hell do people do on long solo drives without music?! Madness!

    I find I can't do very much while listening to music. I find it too distracting.

    I've worked in the music industry in one form or other all my life and there's plenty of times I just don't wanna know about music. Give me silence any day.


  • #124
    Mr Benevolent
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    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    A day without music is a day wasted.

    ...a day wasted for you, you mean.


  • #125
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,923 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    osarusan wrote: »
    You could say the same thing about many other preferences - I've a friend who is crazy about red wine. He has spent a lot of time trying to convince me and educate me aout it, but it's just not there for me. Others might feel the same about novels, poetry, anything. .

    See the wine comparison doesn't work because of this. Wine is a type of food.

    Saying you don't like wine is the music equivalent of saying you don't like Jazz.

    There are plenty of other foods you could like. Similarly, there are plenty of other genres you could listen to.

    Novels, poetry - they're types of reading material. So similarly, saying 'I don't like music' in that sense is like saying 'I don't like reading'. (encompassing all reading from Novels, to poetry, to websites etc)

    I can completely understand folks aren't interested in following bands/groups (I tend not to really listen to anything new myself either) but will still hark back to the fact that the statement 'I don't like music' is just too general. Maybe it should be replaced with 'I don't actively listen to music' or 'there aren't many genres which appeal to me' etc.


  • #126
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Often, music compliments other art forms brillantly. To find the perfect score or song to accompany a segment in an episoide or film is a delicate and difficult task, and when picked correctly it can move an audience profundly. Take this song out of Heat, played at the end... a beautiful and mysterious song, which suits the mood perfectly.


    It's the great communicator.


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  • #127
    Howard Juneau
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    o1s1n wrote: »
    See the wine comparison doesn't work because of this. Wine is a type of food.

    Saying you don't like wine is the music equivalent of saying you don't like Jazz.

    There are plenty of other foods you could like. Similarly, there are plenty of other genres you could listen to.

    Novels, poetry - they're types of reading material. So similarly, saying 'I don't like music' in that sense is like saying 'I don't like reading'. (encompassing all reading from Novels, to poetry, to websites etc)

    I can completely understand folks aren't interested in following bands/groups (I tend not to really listen to anything new myself either) but will still hark back to the fact that the statement 'I don't like music' is just too general. Maybe it should be replaced with 'I don't actively listen to music' or 'there aren't many genres which appeal to me' etc.

    That's like telling an atheist that ah sure, you really believe in god deep down.


  • #128
    Mr_Spaceman
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    gobnaitolunacy wrote: »
    I like music, but I don't get going to sh!t laden fields to listen to it with the inebriated lower orders with a pair of wellies on.

    Another very judgemental response from someone who takes the very worst - and very minor - aspects of a festival and decides it's "bad".

    "Lower orders"? If you're going to troll at least be a bit smarter about it.


  • #129
    krudler
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    GorillaRising wrote: »
    What the hell do people do on long solo drives without music?! Madness!

    I remember driving for a 3 or 4 days across Australia and this one station was playing the 'Top 100 songs ever!'. It was great!

    I'd be a podcast person driving, although I do have a playlist for driving as well


  • #130
    GorillaRising
    Closed Accounts Posts: 293 ✭✭GorillaRising


    krudler wrote: »
    I'd be a podcast person driving, although I do have a playlist for driving as well

    I really don't have my thinking (propeller) cap on today! Yes! Podcasts are excellent too. :) In fact, I'm going to listen to one on the way to work tomorrow.

    Handy having the aul' iPhone!


  • #131
    smurgen
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    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Anyone who puts Billy Joel in the same category as Coldplay clearly doesn't like music, or at least doesn't like good music.

    Both Coldplay and Billy Joel are shocking.I love music,couldn't function without listening to something good at least once a week.


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  • #132
    gobnaitolunacy
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    Mr_Spaceman wrote: »
    Another very judgemental response from someone who takes the very worst - and very minor - aspects of a festival and decides it's "bad".

    "Lower orders"? If you're going to troll at least be a bit smarter about it.

    Took the bait, didn't you?


  • #133
    Catari Jaguar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    GorillaRising wrote: »
    What the hell do people do on long solo drives without music?! Madness!

    I remember driving for a 3 or 4 days across Australia and this one station was playing the 'Top 100 songs ever!'. It was great!

    That sounds perfect, there isn't much better than a beautiful view accompanied by a fitting song; you and the world. Watching a sunset on the water to "Wish You were Here" or hitting the highways listening to "All Along the Watchtower..." Kinda wanna go for a drive now.


  • #134
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    o1s1n wrote: »
    See the wine comparison doesn't work because of this. Wine is a type of food.

    Saying you don't like wine is the music equivalent of saying you don't like Jazz.

    There are plenty of other foods you could like. Similarly, there are plenty of other genres you could listen to.

    Novels, poetry - they're types of reading material. So similarly, saying 'I don't like music' in that sense is like saying 'I don't like reading'. (encompassing all reading from Novels, to poetry, to websites etc)

    I can completely understand folks aren't interested in following bands/groups (I tend not to really listen to anything new myself either) but will still hark back to the fact that the statement 'I don't like music' is just too general. Maybe it should be replaced with 'I don't actively listen to music' or 'there aren't many genres which appeal to me' etc.

    What on earth are you talking about? I'm pointing out that different people are affected/moved differently by different things, none of which are inherently any better than others.

    Whether one may be a type, or the whole, is irrelevant. I could even argue that music is just one type of art, and then the comparison (as you call it) would meet your criterion.

    The statement "I don't like music" might be too general for someone who loves music and wants to go into detail about the many genres and subgenres, like a wine lover wants to go into regional and grape varieties, but for the person who doesn't have any interest in music, the statement works just fine.


  • #135
    Catari Jaguar
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    osarusan wrote: »
    What on earth are you talking about? I'm pointing out that different people are affected/moved differently by different things, none of which are inherently any better than others.

    Whether one may be a type, or the whole, is irrelevant. I could even argue that music is just one type of art, and then the comparison (as you call it) would meet your criterion.

    The statement "I don't like music" might be too general for someone who loves music and wants to go into detail about the many genres and subgenres, like a wine lover wants to go into regional and grape varieties, but for the person who doesn't have any interest in music, the statement works just fine.

    I posted already that music is pretty much the only non essential thing that the body instrinsically rewards that isn't essential for survival.

    Wine comes under food & drink = essential. You get a pleasure reward from your body from a release of dopamine. Aside from that you might like the taste and people get a buzz from the wine. So even if you don't like or appreciate the wine, your body still rewards you and you also get an extrinsic buzz from the alcohol.

    If you aren't getting a pleasure from the music then that is physiologically abnormal. Sorry to say. Someone here already posted a link to amusia. Not even bringing in being emotionally moved or touched by a song, the basic feel good factor you get from music.

    o1s1n is pointing out that in the huuuuuge spectrum of songs, instruments, notes, harmonies, lyrics, vocals, rhythms out there, there's bound to be one that will give you that "rush" that the music lovers here get naturally & easily from a broad range of music. So to him saying "I don't like music" is like saying "I don't like food".

    I have a few posts in here because I am very passionate about music. I wonder if it goes hand in hand with musical intelligence/neuroscience so I did some tests there and scored very high across the board in pitch adaptiveness, tone deaf, rhythm & musical visuals.

    I wonder if there are any people here who dislike/don't care for music who would score lower because they genuinely can't distinguish rhythm/pitch whatever?

    If anyone is interested: Music tests


  • #136
    osarusan
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    Catari Jaguar wrote: »
    I posted already that music is pretty much the only non essential thing that the body instrinsically rewards that isn't essential for survival.

    Wine comes under food & drink = essential. You get a pleasure reward from your body from a release of dopamine. Aside from that you might like the taste and people get a buzz from the wine. So even if you don't like or appreciate the wine, your body still rewards you and you also get an extrinsic buzz from the alcohol.

    If you aren't getting a pleasure from the music then that is physiologically abnormal. Sorry to say. Someone here already posted a link to amusia. Not even bringing in being emotionally moved or touched by a song, the basic feel good factor you get from music.

    o1s1n is pointing out that in the huuuuuge spectrum of songs, instruments, notes, harmonies, lyrics, vocals, rhythms out there, there's bound to be one that will give you that "rush" that the music lovers here get naturally & easily from a broad range of music. So to him saying "I don't like music" is like saying "I don't like food".

    I have a few posts in here because I am very passionate about music. I wonder if it goes hand in hand with musical intelligence/neuroscience so I did some tests there and scored very high across the board in pitch adaptiveness, tone deaf, rhythm & musical visuals.

    I wonder if there are any people here who dislike/don't care for music who would score lower because they genuinely can't distinguish rhythm/pitch whatever?

    If anyone is interested: Music tests

    Yes there is a huge range of genres, so for a music lover, a blanket statement expressing a lack of interest in music full stop seems wrong, but there is a huge range of sports, and some people have no interest in any of them.

    I get the feeling that for music lovers (because this thread is about music, but it applies to anything which is a preference), there is a sense that music really is different and more special than anything else, but it isn't. Not more than red wine, boxing, or stamp collecting.

    Regarding the lines in bold - do you experience this pleasure when listening to all music, or just some kinds/bands?


  • #137
    Catari Jaguar
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    osarusan wrote: »
    Yes there is a huge range of genres, so for a music lover, a blanket statement expressing a lack of interest in music full stop seems wrong, but there is a huge range of sports, and some people have no interest in any of them.

    I get the feeling that for music lovers (because this thread is about music, but it applies to anything which is a preference), there is a sense that music really is different and more special than anything else, but it isn't. Not more than red wine, boxing, or stamp collecting.

    Regarding the lines in bold - do you experience this pleasure when listening to all music, or just some kinds/bands?

    I don't think you understand my point. I posted earlier here about how music makes me feel. I can't sit still to music, I can't concentrate on what a person is saying to me when I am absorbed in a song. I feel that I am music, we are one in the same. I get chills and goosebumps but aside from that, I "feel" the vibration of the music on my skin. Music will instantly change my mood - melancholic to elated and vice versa. I would say I am in the minority in that I am highly influenced by music and aural in general like the sound of a well constructed sentence, alliteration in a poem or onomatopoeia.

    I will listen to pretty much anything (metal, rock, classical, blues, pop, folk, country, dance, dubstep, traditional, Eastern) but there are patterns in my listening as to what wil make me uncomfortable, what will strike me emotionally (chord change or certain note), or admiration of the length of a note because of the power/emotion of the singer radiating from it. Or a certain time signature will make me move more and a triple drum roll will make me hyper. Some beats/patterns blow my mind like when I see a street dancer do an amazing gravity defying move. Ah, it's almost impossible to describe the holistic sensation/experience.


  • #138
    pundy
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    people who dont like music are WEIRD. i've met 2 in my time, and both were weirdos. enough proof for me.


  • #139
    Catari Jaguar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    osarusan wrote: »
    I get the feeling that for music lovers (because this thread is about music, but it applies to anything which is a preference), there is a sense that music really is different and more special than anything else, but it isn't. Not more than red wine, boxing, or stamp collecting.

    As a foodie, and a boxer and general interests person I would have to hugely disagree with you. For one, food/exercise give you the survival reward of hormones/chemicals to make you come back for more. I get that, I love boxing and the adrenaline, it is addictive and it's tough and you feel you've accomplished something. You've earned your pleasure hit, like any sport/exercise. I love watching a good boxing match or a well choreographed fight scene, it makes me want to get up and kick someone ass, you're charged and rearing to go. Interests are nice, art & craft is relaxing. Video games are entertaining. But it's not like music. At least not to me.


  • #140
    Angel Tinkling Gypsy
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    I understand that we all have different interests and so I'm not going to call anyone who doesn't like music a weirdo, but for me, it's a bit weird :) Can't get it


  • #141
    osarusan
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    Catari Jaguar wrote: »
    But it's not like music. At least not to me.
    Not for you, of course, because you love music. But a person who loves alcohol could say the same thing with equal validity, going into detail about what they feel when they taste a great wine or whiskey.

    I guess that I think you are trying to say that there is something inherently better, more admirable, more worthy of praise about music, in comparison to other interests. I disagree with this, because I think it is pointless to try and objectively compare things whose effects on people are purely subjective.

    The person who says that "music is not like gardening, at least not to me" is just as right, as far as they are concerned.


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  • #142
    Catari Jaguar
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    osarusan wrote: »
    Not for you, of course, because you love music. But a person who loves alcohol could say the same thing with equal validity, going into detail about what they feel when they taste a great wine or whiskey.

    I guess that I think you are trying to say that there is something inherently better, more admirable, more worthy of praise about music, in comparison to other interests. I disagree with this, because I think it is pointless to try and objectively compare things whose effects on people are purely subjective.

    The person who says that "music is not like gardening, at least not to me" is just as right, as far as they are concerned.

    Music is life's most perfect, pure and exquisite drug. It's designed for that.

    If people feel that way about gardening & stamp collecting, then awesome for them. I think fine, agree to disagree but unless you "feel" the music you can't really say it's like any old hobby because the perspectives aren't the same.

    I know it's a cosmos article but research is still there like-a-drug-music-induces-same-chemicals/


  • #143
    elekid
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    When people talk about actively listening to music, does that mean sitting down to listen to some songs while not doing anything else?

    I don't consider music a hobby (wouldn't know names of many bands or songs) but I do love music, especially video game music. Its always in the background for me though, either as part of a game or on youtube while I'm browsing the internet. I've also been to a few video game concerts (orchestral performances of songs from videogames, often with games footage playing in the background), and I loved them.


  • #144
    studiorat
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    So are we talking about people who don't like music or people who can take it or leave it?

    I can take or leave GAA. I actively don't like golf. Don't like dancing either...
    elekid wrote: »
    I don't consider music a hobby (wouldn't know names of many bands or songs) but I do love music, especially video game music. Its always in the background for me though, either as part of a game or on youtube while I'm browsing the internet. I've also been to a few video game concerts (orchestral performances of songs from videogames, often with games footage playing the background), and I loved them.

    Now that is weird...;)


  • #145
    kiffer
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    I like music in a general sense... I just don't care about it... it's a nice noise that is pleasant to hear and sometimes good to dance to and I enjoy dancing.
    I think I own less than 5 CDs I'm pretty sure I've only bought one.
    I would be hard pressed most of the time to name tunes that I like if they came on the raido or if a DJ played then in a club.
    I just be like "oh yeah I like this song". I don't know or care what it's called or who performs it.
    I won't remember most of the lyrics either.


  • #146
    GLaDOS
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    elekid wrote: »
    I've also been to a few video game concerts (orchestral performances of songs from videogames, often with games footage playing in the background), and I loved them.

    That sounds pretty cool I have to say. Listened to the London Philharmonic's interpretation of some video game themes and there's some really great songs. The likes of Skyrim and Final Fantasy have great music.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #147
    Grayditch
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    If anyone can listen to the music of Skyrim and feel nothing... check their pulse ;)


  • #148
    Rereg 104
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    kiffer wrote: »
    I like music in a general sense... I just don't care about it... it's a nice noise that is pleasant to hear and sometimes good to dance to and I enjoy dancing.
    I think I own less than 5 CDs I'm pretty sure I've only bought one.
    I would be hard pressed most of the time to name tunes that I like if they came on the raido or if a DJ played then in a club.
    I just be like "oh yeah I like this song". I don't know or care what it's called or who performs it.
    I won't remember most of the lyrics either.

    Could have written that myself.

    I couldn't tell you the name of a Beetles song for example.


  • #149
    ScumLord
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    I like music as much as the next guy I just don't get fanatical about music and have no interest in the people playing it. I have no interest in finding out anything about the artist, what their influences are or have any interest in buying any of the merchandise.

    I think music has had the goodness taken out of it lately. They're just churning out to much of the stuff these days, most musicians are only products now I think the artistic side of it has been completely washed up. We've gone through almost every combination of notes, since the synt there's no new instruments that can change the scene, we're just rehashing what's been done to date and that's only going to get worse with time.

    I don't believe there's anything to be excited about in music any more. I'll come across songs I like now and again but most music these days is as disposable as toilet paper.


  • #150
    UCDVet
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    Oddly enough, back when I was 15, I picked up a guitar. Guitar is still the defacto 'cool' instrument. I can play reasonably well too (though I am a terrible singer).

    The better I got with the guitar the *less* I appreciated music.

    It seemed like there was a constant flow of 'hit' songs that were nothing more than 10-40 year old songs being played louder or with more distortion. And learning chord progressions really took a lot of the 'wonder' out of music. Before, each song was just that - a song. Now it's like....

    'Yeah, that's *another* variation of the Pop progression....in...sounds like....C.

    You can learn four chord progressions and bam, you've pretty much learned 90% of every hit song, ever.

    Anyway, no disrespect to anyone who enjoys music; I just wanted to give my own anecdotal experience. For me, learning more about music led to me appreciating it less.


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  • #151
    o1s1n
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    Master of the Universe


    Howard Juneau wrote: »
    That's like telling an atheist that ah sure, you really believe in god deep down.

    Excuse me while I go and bang my head against a wall.


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