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2013 Bord Gais U21Hurling Championship.

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  • #332
    Thinkstoomuch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Thinkstoomuch


    Whats the story with cunnigham?i hate to c any player go off injured

    Is it that f***ing dreaded cruciate again?


  • #333
    Diabhal Beag
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    Lennonist wrote: »
    Should play it in Tullamore. U21 Final has been there before I believe? Semi finals definitely were.

    You're right. Galway played KK there when Keril Wade was the next big thing.
    It'll be in Thurles though.


  • #334
    sasol
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    Thinkstoomuch wrote: »
    Whats the story with cunnigham?i hate to c any player go off injured

    Is it that f***ing dreaded cruciate again?

    Hamstring I think


  • #335
    Thinkstoomuch
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    sasol wrote: »
    Hamstring I think
    thanks.

    Out for the final,probably,at least its not the cruciate.


  • #336
    Birdnuts
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    Thinkstoomuch wrote: »
    thanks.

    Out for the final,probably,at least its not the cruciate.

    Is he one of Clares free takers??


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  • #337
    sasol
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    Birdnuts wrote: »
    Is he one of Clares free takers??

    No. Cathal o Connell takes the close in frees and Alan O Neill takes the long range frees.

    Cunningham doesn't take them for the 21s. The lad who replaced Cunningham , Cathal Malone, did well when he came in.


  • #338
    Thinkstoomuch
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    sasol wrote: »
    No. Cathal o Connell takes the close in frees and Alan O Neill takes the long range frees.

    Cunningham doesn't take them for the 21s. The lad who replaced Cunningham , Cathal Malone, did well when he came in.

    Mclirney unreal,and o neill sum player.Watching it nw.

    Great sign to win when kelly and galvin were off par.


  • #339
    [Deleted User]
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    sasol wrote: »
    Hamstring I think


    Rough on the young man and you could see the devastation in his face


  • #340
    nice_guy80
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    I'd say the GAA are kicking themselves

    Wexford v Clare would have brought a very big crowd.
    the Antrim crowd won't travel for fear of a hiding.


  • #341
    Clareman
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    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    I'd say the GAA are kicking themselves

    Wexford v Clare would have brought a very big crowd.
    the Antrim crowd won't travel for fear of a hiding.

    Clare a week out after the Senior final, if we win there'll be a massive crowd there to finish off the (first week) celebrations, if we lose there'll be a massive crowd there to support the team


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  • #342
    skeleton_boy
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    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    I'd say the GAA are kicking themselves

    Wexford v Clare would have brought a very big crowd.
    the Antrim crowd won't travel for fear of a hiding.

    Who gives a toss about the size of the crowd? The best two teams in the semi-finals won. Surely Antrim getting to the final is much better for hurling than the financial gains that may be lost in this one match. Here's hoping Antrim make a game of it.


  • #343
    Thinkstoomuch
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    skeleton_boy wrote: »
    Who gives a toss about the size of the crowd? The best two teams in the semi-finals won. Surely Antrim getting to the final is much better for hurling than the financial gains that may be lost in this one match. Here's hoping Antrim make a game of it.


    Fair play to the antrim team,and kevin ryan,only tk them over a few wks ago.He wanted the job in jan,but woudnt get it.


    He done superb.They played as a team and were united from 1 to 15.

    Their best performance since beating dublin at senior in 2010 but up their with 89.

    Wexford were complacent though,clare wnt be ,they will win this handy.

    I hope antrim arent crucifed.Clare are now in five all irelands finals in four years in hurling.Just shows even with a small population ,with the work put in,what can be achieved.

    You reap what you sow.

    Under ryan,antrim hurling will get better.


  • #344
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    Thinkstoomuch wrote: »
    Fair play to the antrim team,and kevin ryan,only tk them over a few wks ago.He wanted the job in jan,but woudnt get it.


    He done superb.They played as a team and were united from 1 to 15.

    Their best performance since beating dublin at senior in 2010 but up their with 89.

    Wexford were complacent though,clare wnt be ,they will win this handy.

    I hope antrim arent crucifed.Clare are now in five all irelands finals in four years in hurling.Just shows even with a small population ,with the work put in,what can be achieved.

    You reap what you sow.

    Under ryan,antrim hurling will get better.

    Ryan done very good work up in Carlow previously. There is alot of potential with Antrim but they suffer in a sense that the nearest strong hurling county to them is Dublin in terms of arranging a challenge, etc.
    With the right preparation and support from the county board, Antrim could be good enough to contend in the future especially with the way the game is changing.

    Clare have to be admired. They've set a blueprint going forward on the way they want to play the game and everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet. They are beginning to reap the rewards now.


  • #345
    Clareman
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    Thinkstoomuch wrote: »
    Fair play to the antrim team,and kevin ryan,only tk them over a few wks ago.He wanted the job in jan,but woudnt get it.


    He done superb.They played as a team and were united from 1 to 15.

    Their best performance since beating dublin at senior in 2010 but up their with 89.

    Wexford were complacent though,clare wnt be ,they will win this handy.

    I hope antrim arent crucifed.Clare are now in five all irelands finals in four years in hurling.Just shows even with a small population ,with the work put in,what can be achieved.

    You reap what you sow.

    Under ryan,antrim hurling will get better.

    You've had a few jibes at Clare that I've noticed, they are borderline trolling, take this as your only warning.

    Clare is actually 1 of the largest populated "Hurling" counties and would have a larger population than Waterford, Kilkenny and I would imagine the hurling parts of Galway.


  • #346
    rebel girl 15
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    mickymackey1 permabanned, since you were using the new account to get around a previous ban


  • #347
    rebel girl 15
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    Since the thread has descended into just talking about moderators decision, I'm locking it for the time being, and doing some cleaning to get it back on topic


  • #348
    Clareman
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    I'm reopening the thread, if you have a problem with my modding PM me or Cmod, or open a thread in Feedback, don't debate it on thread, that will be considered in breach of the charter which will result in a ban until the end of the championship (which you can debate in DRP of course)


  • #349
    Mal-Adjusted
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    A lot of posters seem to be writing Antrim off already. :( I know they'll be seen as the underdogs, but teams don't get into all-Ireland finals by accident. The last thing we need is our lads going out thinking they've already won.

    Iv'e been saying for the last 2-3 years that Antrim are a good hurling side, but my friends never really took notice until now.


  • #350
    marco_polo
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    Mal-Adjusted wrote: »
    A lot of posters seem to be writing Antrim off already. :( I know they'll be seen as the underdogs, but teams don't get into all-Ireland finals by accident. The last thing we need is our lads going out thinking they've already won.

    Iv'e been saying for the last 2-3 years that Antrim are a good hurling side, but my friends never really took notice until now.

    Just saw on the Sunday game that they had only four guys on the bench, unreal performance and great to see.

    I certainly hope we give them plenty of respect in the final, just looking back to the 2010 minor results and they gave Dublin, whom we beat by a point in the semi final a pretty good run too in the quarter finals so this team is clearly a very decent underage side capable of giving anyone a good game.


  • #351
    Warper
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    Clareman wrote: »
    You've had a few jibes at Clare that I've noticed, they are borderline trolling, take this as your only warning.

    Clare is actually 1 of the largest populated "Hurling" counties and would have a larger population than Waterford, Kilkenny and I would imagine the hurling parts of Galway.

    Half the county is football territory though i.e. the West of Clare


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  • #352
    Warper
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    The weekend belonged to Antrim in fairness, what a performance. Wexford were 1-33 with the bookies with a 17 pt spread. Congratulations Antrim, brilliant stuff and looking forward to playing ye in the final.


  • #353
    red_diesel
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    Fair play to Antrim. However serious questions have to be asked about the structure of the U21 championship structure.
    Having listened to Kevin Ryan after the game and reading today about their prepartation, it is scandalous that they are pretty much given a bye into the semi's every year. The county have shown absolutely no regard for the competition. Starting collective training 3 weeks before, travelling with only 20 players. They have taken some hammerings in the past, fair enough they caught Wexford this time but chances are they will take a hammering in the final. Put them into Leinster like the senior.


  • #354
    Mountainlad
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    red_diesel wrote: »
    Fair play to Antrim. However serious questions have to be asked about the structure of the U21 championship structure.
    Having listened to Kevin Ryan after the game and reading today about their prepartation, it is scandalous that they are pretty much given a bye into the semi's every year. The county have shown absolutely no regard for the competition. Starting collective training 3 weeks before, travelling with only 20 players. They have taken some hammerings in the past, fair enough they caught Wexford this time but chances are they will take a hammering in the final. Put them into Leinster like the senior.

    If the team is that badly prepared and not good enough to be at that stage of the competition, then the Leinster champions should have no difficulty accounting for them. Be one thing if it was Galway who equally had little or no preparation for the game in terms of competitve matches, but it was Wexford who played 3 games in Leinster.


  • #355
    Warper
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    red_diesel wrote: »
    Fair play to Antrim. However serious questions have to be asked about the structure of the U21 championship structure.
    Having listened to Kevin Ryan after the game and reading today about their prepartation, it is scandalous that they are pretty much given a bye into the semi's every year. The county have shown absolutely no regard for the competition. Starting collective training 3 weeks before, travelling with only 20 players. They have taken some hammerings in the past, fair enough they caught Wexford this time but chances are they will take a hammering in the final. Put them into Leinster like the senior.

    The 4 Provincial winners go into the semis - no back-door. It was good enough for the GAA for over a 100 years, nothing wrong with that. Antrim have proven that they deserve to be in the final by beating the Leinster final winners fair and square. If it only takes 3 weeks training and having a couple of subs to beat Wexford, well thats another story.


  • #356
    daisybelle2008
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    red_diesel wrote: »
    Fair play to Antrim. However serious questions have to be asked about the structure of the U21 championship structure.
    Having listened to Kevin Ryan after the game and reading today about their prepartation, it is scandalous that they are pretty much given a bye into the semi's every year. The county have shown absolutely no regard for the competition. Starting collective training 3 weeks before, travelling with only 20 players. They have taken some hammerings in the past, fair enough they caught Wexford this time but chances are they will take a hammering in the final. Put them into Leinster like the senior.

    Well they don’t actually get a by into the semis, they play other teams in Ulster teams. Granted that is not much of a challenge compared to Leinster or Munster but they played 2 matches. Maybe Galway who get straight into the semis, should be put in with the Ulster Championship. There is already enough in the Leinster mix @ U21 to be fair.


  • #357
    red_diesel
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    Warper wrote: »
    The 4 Provincial winners go into the semis - no back-door. It was good enough for the GAA for over a 100 years, nothing wrong with that. Antrim have proven that they deserve to be in the final by beating the Leinster final winners fair and square. If it only takes 3 weeks training and having a couple of subs to beat Wexford, well thats another story.

    Well that system clearly wasn't fit for purpose at senior level anymore and thats why we now have the back door. The system needs to be looked at.


  • #358
    Fireball07
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    I disagree. U-21 is supposed to be a transition period, a lot of these players are already playing senior, some are playing minor..... you don't want to overload them with matches.


  • #359
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
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    Fireball07 wrote: »
    I disagree. U-21 is supposed to be a transition period, a lot of these players are already playing senior, some are playing minor..... you don't want to overload them with matches.

    100% agree, and that's not even taking into account college and club teams, and then dual players on top of that. The likes of Lee Chin (and Eoin Cadogan when he was U-21) were on about 10 different teams.


  • #360
    angelfire9
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    Antrim are talking of boycotting the final
    As a Clare woman I'd be happy enough to go to Tullamore or Portlaoise or somewhere kinda midway for a game


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  • #361
    premierstone
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    angelfire9 wrote: »
    Antrim are talking of boycotting the final
    As a Clare woman I'd be happy enough to go to Tullamore or Portlaoise or somewhere kinda midway for a game

    Seen the article in question and quite frankly Kevin Ryan is making a complete tit of himself, the decision to play all u21 hurling finals in Thurles was taken at congress in 2009, and Antrim like Galway who complained in 2010 they voted in favour of the concept, Galway actually spoke very positively of it at the time.

    They had no problem coming to Thurles for the semi, so whats the difference now?? If they boycott the final I hope they're fcuked out for the forseeable future although from reading the artice this seems to be Ryan going off on a solo and there does'nt seem to be any one else in Antrim calling for the same.

    Its like Kerry refusing to play Dublin in Croker the weekend it makes zero sense.


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