Hatred of animal abuse

Smithwicks Man · 25-08-2013 01:15AM #1

Is it just me or is the physical abuse of animals much more frowned upon than the physical abuse of humans?

Personally, physical abuse of animals, dogs in particular, boils my blood whereas I honestly wouldn't bat an eye at humans being attacked or beaten up, provided they weren't elderly or children.

Maybe it's because they're more helpless than people and can't speak out.

What does AH think? Which angers you more/if at all?

Crann na Beatha · 25-08-2013 01:16AM

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Ihatecuddles-old · 25-08-2013 01:17AM

Human abuse, without a doubt. I'm not a huge animal lover.

Clandestine · 25-08-2013 01:23AM

Animals aren't comparable to humans at all in my opinion. I'll never understand how people can say that an animal's suffering angers them more than a humans. Maybe its because they are misanthropes and find refuge in animals because they can be more innocent and harmless?

Smithwicks Man · 25-08-2013 01:28AM

I don't really understand it either. I think it's because of their helplessness. Similar to the way in which child abuse is much worse than abuse of adults to one another imo

Vito Corleone · 25-08-2013 01:30AM

Abuse of humans would anger me more (both are terrible ofc). I feel sad for people who are unable to understand that humans are more important than animals (a lot of people seem to think that around here :pac:).

Roose · 25-08-2013 01:32AM

There's an honesty and purity in animals that people sympathise with.
I'd rather get a kick in the hole than someone doing it to my dog.
Probably because I feel I could come to terms with it better, whereas my dog would be scared and confused.

Roose · 25-08-2013 01:34AM

Vito Corleone wrote: »

Abuse of humans would anger me more (both are terrible ofc). I feel sad for people who are unable to understand that humans are more important than animals (they're common enough around here :pac:).

But we're not, we can't live without them. They could survive without us grand, we're only new to the planet.

Rightwing · 25-08-2013 01:34AM

Well I hate the phrase 'treated like an animal'

Animals are just that, animals, and are trying to survive in a harsh envrironment.

No abuse, full stop. Anyone caught should be severly dealt with.

Vito Corleone · 25-08-2013 01:35AM

Roose wrote: »

But we're not, we can't live without them. They could survive without us grand, we're only new to the planet.

Oh dear.

clappyhappy · 25-08-2013 01:38AM

Hate to see both abused. I love animals especially dogs and if any one abused them I would be livid. But also seeing the children and adults who died in a chemical attack in Syria just boils my blood.
How the rest if the world can sit back and allow this to happen is beyond belief.

Roose · 25-08-2013 01:40AM

Vito Corleone wrote: »

Oh dear.

Sorry my bad, just saw that you're only a kid.
Back to bed young man!

Vito Corleone · 25-08-2013 01:46AM

Roose wrote: »

Sorry my bad, just saw that you're only a kid.
Back to bed young man!

I'm 19. :rolleyes: 50% of the forum would be under 23, but lets get back on topic and restore some dignity to this thread. :pac:

ferretone · 25-08-2013 01:49AM

Vito Corleone wrote: »

Abuse of humans would anger me more (both are terrible ofc). I feel sad for people who don't agree with my opinion

FYP :pac:

Clandestine · 25-08-2013 01:50AM

ferretone wrote: »

FYP :pac:

Could you explain how animals are more important than humans?

ONeill2013 · 25-08-2013 01:51AM

i hate both, i also hate when a dog or cat gets killed by a speeding driver and then it's automatically the pet owners fault yet if it was a person who got killed the driver gets most of the blame.

ferretone · 25-08-2013 01:54AM

Clandestine wrote: »

Could you explain how animals are more important than humans?

Sorry, can't find where I said that they were?? :rolleyes:

guppy · 25-08-2013 01:55AM

I wouldn't do either and I hate both.
But as a mother, my thoughts go to my own son when I hear of child abuse and I just can't imagine how anyone could hurt a defenceless child, so I abhor abuse of people more due to that.

Clandestine · 25-08-2013 01:56AM

ONeill2013 wrote: »

i hate both, i also hate when a dog or cat gets killed by a speeding driver and then it's automatically the pet owners fault yet if it was a person who got killed the driver gets most of the blame.

I guess because pets are meant to be watched as they are likely to get into trouble and are not as aware of certain dangers than humans? A dog may run across a busy road without looking to get a ball, and so will a child. A grown, intelligent human being wouldn't, therefore the blame is directed at a different source

Clandestine · 25-08-2013 01:57AM

ferretone wrote: »

Sorry, can't find where I said that they were?? :rolleyes:

I thought your post was insinuating that, my mistake.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 25-08-2013 01:58AM

'Dumb' animals as in they can't protest against ill treatment. The dog is most at risk from this behaviour as they rely so much on the owner.

A cat won't stand for it. To quote Mark Twain..

'By what right has the dog come to be regarded as a noble animal? The more brutal and cruel and unjust you are to him the more your fawning and adoring slave he becomes, whereas, if you shamefully misuse a cat once she will always maintain a dignified reserve toward you afterward.... You will never get her full confidence again.'

Owen_S · 25-08-2013 01:59AM

guppy wrote: »

I wouldn't do either and I hate both.
But as a mother, my thoughts go to my own son when I hear of child abuse and I just can't imagine how anyone could hurt a defenceless child, so I abhor abuse of people more due to that.

I think that is the reasoning with the strong hatred of animal abuse, the animals tend to be defenceless and vulnerable, with minimal protection from laws.

ONeill2013 · 25-08-2013 02:00AM

Clandestine wrote: »

I guess because pets are meant to be watched as they are likely to get into trouble and are not as aware of certain dangers than humans? A dog may run across a busy road without looking to get a ball, and so will a child. A grown, intelligent human being wouldn't, therefore the blame is directed at a different source

that's what i'm trying to get at, if a small child gets knocked down by a driver going over the speed limit the driver gets alot of the blame (along with the parents) yet if it was the same situation with an animal the pet owner gets all the blame

Roose · 25-08-2013 02:00AM

Clandestine wrote: »

Could you explain how animals are more important than humans?

What a ridiculously stupid comparison to make.

Vito Corleone · 25-08-2013 02:04AM

ferretone wrote: »

FYP :pac:

That should garner you a few thanks, well done.

Seriously though, I was reading a thread not so long ago where people wanted dogs to be allowed on public transport. The inane reasoning from these types was cringe worthy. Their total disregard for other people who may be travelling on buses, not to mention the safety concerns...

But that whole thread is a can of worms best left unopened! :pac:

Smithwicks Man · 25-08-2013 02:11AM

A lot of people I've talked to about this couldn't care less about a stranger being hit on a night out for example, and possibly ending up with a broken nose or whatever. Yet if a stray dog was laced a kick or had something thrown at it there'd be uproar among many of them and some would nearly physically assault the aggressor.

It's a strange one!

Ace Attorney · 25-08-2013 02:15AM

Animal,elderly,child abuse would be equally upsetting for me, For me its the thought that they werent able to defend themselves and have an innocent and trusting way about them especially animals and small children.

Roose · 25-08-2013 02:15AM

I love this whole thing of which is more important, humans or animals.
Important in what sense? And to whom? Humans are certainly not more important to the planet.
And what animals are we more important than?
What's more important actually, an aardvark or a porcupine?

token101 · 25-08-2013 02:17AM

Roose wrote: »

And what animals are we more important than?

The tasty ones

Smithwicks Man · 25-08-2013 02:22AM

token101 wrote: »

The tasty ones

That was a fantastic response :pac:

guppy · 25-08-2013 02:22AM

Owen_S wrote: »

I think that is the reasoning with the strong hatred of animal abuse, the animals tend to be defenceless and vulnerable, with minimal protection from laws.

You know what, no form of abuse (I'm excluding consenting adults here) is ok. No defenceless being should be subjected to mental or physical torture or pain, or the fear of same.

The "people" who inflict any of the above are abhorrent and should be shunned.

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