VIDEO: ‘Brazen’ woman steals flowers from city centre display

Elbaston · 22-08-2013 01:14PM

Yes - I stole your flowers in that brief instant when you had your back turned.

And I shall do it again.

Good day.

123balltv · 22-08-2013 01:20PM

You cant go around recording a woman picking flowers :mad:
I'd like to see him or her record a real hard nut someday he'd knock the
head off the freak.

Systemic Risk · 22-08-2013 01:21PM

conorhal wrote: »

Anybody see 'the other video' on the youtube channel which posted the vid?

Jesus. It's seriously disturbing, and depicts the open drug use that goes on around O'Connell St and on major city center streets, including intravenous drug use into rather desturbing places.
FYI It really underlines what a hell we have allowed inner city dublin to become, though I warn those of a squemish disposition not to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L17cF4HLIZk

The story about the flower stealer is just stupid, if a public warden or gard passed they would prob tell her to stop and send her on her way.

However this links with the open heroin injecting in the city centre is absolutely disgusting. They obviously know they are going to get away with it as if they feared being arrested they would go out of sight down an alley or to some squat. I am shocked by how brazen they are.

Fighting Irish · 22-08-2013 01:21PM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Why is this news? Do we need a blow-by blow of every minor criminal offence?

thejournal.ie what do you expect

fryup · 22-08-2013 01:22PM

love the way she keeps the fag going....unique irish skill that

tin79 · 22-08-2013 01:25PM

How the hell can it cost almost a grand to plant each of those each year? I have two in my garden which I change for spring, summer, autumn. costs less than 50 quid each year.

Anyone · 22-08-2013 01:35PM

Somebody should have just pointed out they weren't edible, I recon she would have stopped.

conorhal · 22-08-2013 01:39PM

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Love the junkie injecting his penis, and the text telling us that he injected his girlfriend's vagina next.

They should show that one in schools, it would be the most effective 'just say no' campaign ever!
Yep kids, you too could end up with your cacks around you ankles on Abbey St shooting junk into your junk becase those are the only veins you have left in your body....

Anyone · 22-08-2013 01:39PM

tin79 wrote: »

How the hell can it cost almost a grand to plant each of those each year? I have two in my garden which I change for spring, summer, autumn. costs less than 50 quid each year.

The price is to maintain them, not plant them. How long would it take you to clean 40 of those boxes, weed, water, plant etc. Remember now, they are in the city centre, so **** knows whats buried in them.

kowloon · 22-08-2013 01:45PM

This is why we can't have nice things.

April O Neill · 22-08-2013 01:50PM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Why is this news? Do we need a blow-by blow of every minor criminal offence?

Yes, I mean I hope she's reprimanded, but in another way, who the fúck cares?

April O Neill · 22-08-2013 01:52PM

Lapin wrote: »

If more and more people like this were publicly shamed, there would be less and less minor criminal offences.

Hardly.

tin79 · 22-08-2013 02:00PM

Anyone wrote: »

The price is to maintain them, not plant them. How long would it take you to clean 40 of those boxes, weed, water, plant etc. Remember now, they are in the city centre, so **** knows whats buried in them.

It wouldn't take me 35 grand worth of time per year. That's a full time salary. To weed and clean them out, water them 10 mins each twice a week.

That's 40 x 10 x 52 x 2 = 41,600 minutes per year. lets say each on is planted 3 times a year at 60 minutes per planting. 40 x 3 x 60 = 7200 minutes. So in total around 800 hours work per year. That's nearly €45 cost per hours work. Seems steep to me.

Also in the article it says there was hundreds of euro worth of damage. Cant see how replacing a few hanging plants could cost that. Tesco sell them for €5 for a tray of ten. Even mature ones don't cost much.

The local garden centre does large mature hanging baskets for €50 with as many plants as that whole display.

I have no doubt they do spend that much but I cant see how it should cost that must.

hatrickpatrick · 22-08-2013 02:04PM

Dear God. Our standards have really slipped if we bestow grand epithets like "brazen" to eejits like these.

April O Neill · 22-08-2013 02:14PM

Plazaman wrote: »

Ah that's how it starts you see, a few flowers here and a few flowers there. Next thing you know BAM!!!! you get a trowel through the back of your head from her and she has ya stuffed into a big bag of compost before you can say Rhododendron.

Yep, soon she'll be stealing stadiums and and and... quarrys!

April O Neill · 22-08-2013 02:15PM

kilclon wrote: »

I was briefly listening to late night talk on 98fm last night and they were discussing this incident and how Dublin city center has gone to cock in general.

TBH, I find Cork city centre way worse.

April O Neill · 22-08-2013 02:16PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

Death by lethal injection.

Nip it in the bud now, before you know it we'll have immi-gants coming over here eating all our jobs and applying for our swans.

Damn you! Was taking a drink as I read this!!!

tin79 · 22-08-2013 02:28PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Dear God. Our standards have really slipped if we bestow grand epithets like "brazen" to eejits like these.

The journal wouldn`t be able to use words like Kµnt though.

gobnaitolunacy · 22-08-2013 02:29PM

It's their culture?

RachaelVO · 22-08-2013 02:31PM

conorhal wrote: »

Anybody see 'the other video' on the youtube channel which posted the vid?

Jesus. It's seriously disturbing, and depicts the open drug use that goes on around O'Connell St and on major city center streets, including intravenous drug use into rather desturbing places.
FYI It really underlines what a hell we have allowed inner city dublin to become, though I warn those of a squemish disposition not to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L17cF4HLIZk

Holy shite, that's a fecking eye opener!

I'm such an innocent

AngeGal · 22-08-2013 02:42PM

April O Neill wrote: »

Hardly.

Actually research indicates 'naming and shaming' can be an effective deterrent as it would form part of the possible consequences for such actions and people might then think that the potential costs outweighs the benefit.

April O Neill · 22-08-2013 02:53PM

AngeGal wrote: »

Actually research indicates 'naming and shaming' can be an effective deterrent as it would form part of the possible consequences for such actions and people might then think that the potential costs outweighs the benefit.

Have you got some links?

I'm always a bit wary of sociological studies myself.

Do you think this lady would have refrained from doing this if she had seen someone be named and shamed. No definitive answer, but I doubt it!

tin79 · 22-08-2013 02:56PM

AngeGal wrote: »

Actually research indicates 'naming and shaming' can be an effective deterrent as it would form part of the possible consequences for such actions and people might then think that the potential costs outweighs the benefit.

Ah the old "research indicates" post. Can be used to back up any crazy theory.

conorhal · 22-08-2013 03:10PM

RachaelVO wrote: »

Holy shite, that's a fecking eye opener!

I'm such an innocent

Not to me, I live in the city center. I really is that brazen, of course it's that brazen because of the comple lack of policing and effective means of dealing with addicts and drunks when the Guards do arrive. You only had to look at the two guards outside Smyths toy shop in the clip, standing around looking at each other as if to say 'what do we do now?'.

This could all be sorted easilly and efficiently just as Guilliani sorted it in New York.

Effective two man patrols constantly patroling, 10 guards would cover the entire area.

Stop and search powers for the guards (no junkie is going to risk loosing his stash)

Paddy wagon in the D1 area that arrives promptly to scoop these guys off the street when a patrol requests one.

A drunk tank in Store St. station. 30 6x6 kennels with a toilet a tap and a wooden bench to sleep on. If you are drunk and disorderly or creating a public nuisance and refuse to move on you get 24hrs in the drunk tank and a fine.

RachaelVO · 22-08-2013 03:14PM

conorhal wrote: »

Not to me, I live in the city center. I really is that brazen, of course it's that brazen because of the comple lack of policing and effective means of dealing with addicts and drunks when the Guards do arrive. You only had to look at the two guards outside Smyths toy shop in the clip, standing around looking at each other as if to say 'what do we do now?'.

This could all be sorted easilly and efficiently just as Guilliani sorted it in New York.

Effective two man patrols constantly patroling, 10 guards would cover the entire area.

Stop and search powers for the guards (no junkie is going to risk loosing his stash)

Paddy wagon in the D1 area that arrives promptly to scoop these guys off the street when a patrol requests one.

A drunk tank in Store St. station. 30 6x6 kennels with a toilet a tap and a wooden bench to sleep on. If you are drunk and disorderly or creating a public nuisance and refuse to move on you get 24hrs in the drunk tank and a fine.

I was watching that video and I was almost sick. I've never seen that before in Dublin. I'm from Dublin, but the sticks of Dublin, and whenever I'm in town I've never really seen it. I've heard of it happening alright. I just think I must live under a rock not to have noticed it before... and then I think maybe I'm better off living under that rock, cos that's just not what I want to be exposed to.

McDermotX · 22-08-2013 03:22PM

Kip

Lapin · 22-08-2013 03:32PM

tin79 wrote: »

How the hell can it cost almost a grand to plant each of those each year? I have two in my garden which I change for spring, summer, autumn. costs less than 50 quid each year.

€50 for the flowers.

€150 to pay a council worker to plant the flowers.

€200 to pay someone in City Hall to choose what colour flowers to plant.

€300 to pay the health and safety officer to oversee the planting of the flowers.

€400 to pay for a councillor's fact finding mission to Holland to look at some flowers there.

EyeSight · 22-08-2013 03:32PM

conorhal wrote: »

Not to me, I live in the city center. I really is that brazen, of course it's that brazen because of the comple lack of policing and effective means of dealing with addicts and drunks when the Guards do arrive. You only had to look at the two guards outside Smyths toy shop in the clip, standing around looking at each other as if to say 'what do we do now?'.

This could all be sorted easilly and efficiently just as Guilliani sorted it in New York.

Effective two man patrols constantly patroling, 10 guards would cover the entire area.

Stop and search powers for the guards (no junkie is going to risk loosing his stash)

Paddy wagon in the D1 area that arrives promptly to scoop these guys off the street when a patrol requests one.

A drunk tank in Store St. station. 30 6x6 kennels with a toilet a tap and a wooden bench to sleep on. If you are drunk and disorderly or creating a public nuisance and refuse to move on you get 24hrs in the drunk tank and a fine.

i 100% agree with you and have always said the same. But it will not happen. Some people refuse to see the problem. There's not enough of a public outcry to spend an extra penny on policing the area
The courts also need to start punishing the repeat offenders. if you have 50 previous convictions you'll still get a suspended sentence. Not even community service

vicwatson · 22-08-2013 03:35PM

McDermotX wrote: »

Lidl bag.

It's where she bought the running gear that's stuck to her !

MadsL · 22-08-2013 03:42PM

“We are like a management company for the core city centre,” explains Carroll. “We have an immediate response crew if there is a problem on a street. We want to ensure the area always looks nice, as well as promote the city to visitors and locals.”

The problem with BID has always been they have been so busy doing tourist information and surveys, that they haven't actually turned around and looked at what their retail members get up to. Tatty illegal banners, illegal sandwich boards, illegal signage, illegal window posters, crappy garish colours, street displays spilling out on the street, flags out of every possible crevice, painting historical façades bright pink, not maintaining façades, bolting banners onto protected façades...the list goes on. Dublin is one of the most historic shopping districts in Europe and it looks like shit. Why? because RETAILERS make it look shit, meanwhile BID look the other way.

VIDEO: ‘Brazen’ woman steals flowers from city centre display

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