Farming Chit Chat II

whelan1 · 21-08-2013 03:17PM

Muckit wrote: »

God your some woman to horse over a concrete trough! :eek:

was just thinking after i should have phrased dat differently

bob charles · 21-08-2013 04:07PM

Manoffeeling wrote: »

With extra steel and slats on, it's coming in near 25k, that's with the VAT. Am I being rode?

So its a 100ft tank, what width and depth is it? You will get one opportunity to do the job right. I would be slow on skimping on steel. Does your price include digging, gravel for the floor, 9inches of concrete on the floor, backfilling or what. Underground tanks cost a fair bit

Kovu · 21-08-2013 04:19PM

Don't have time to see 2 pages of f & F atm. Rabbits are non existant, hare are cat food here and frogs and swallows appear on a daily live basis as cat food

bob charles · 21-08-2013 07:12PM

Muckit wrote: »

God your some woman to horse over a concrete trough! :eek:

Less of that sort of talk, your a married man Muckit

Muckit · 21-08-2013 07:32PM

Can't beat a woman with a great pair of hands!! :pac:

jersey101 · 21-08-2013 08:03PM

Just brought in the first autumn calve, lovely heifer out of a first time calver

Delighted
Two 3rd lactation cows due tomorrow also

Manoffeeling · 21-08-2013 08:26PM

bob charles wrote: »

So its a 100ft tank, what width and depth is it? You will get one opportunity to do the job right. I would be slow on skimping on steel. Does your price include digging, gravel for the floor, 9inches of concrete on the floor, backfilling or what. Underground tanks cost a fair bit

It's from start to finish with a 12 6 slat with 9 inches in floor. I'd be slow to skimp and whinge if its done right.

AntrimGlens · 21-08-2013 08:32PM

was on a farm walk today and jack kennedy from the comic was there with the laptop out - not often we get the "big boys" this far up :pac:

got pm on the bitch back from the vets - they can't find anything on histology and the dept lab won't do toxicology without a police report and have to send the samples to the states - Â£25 per test and you have to tell them which tests you want carried out and what drugs to test for - i'm not a fecking chemist how'd I know. seriously?

Timmaay · 21-08-2013 08:42PM

jersey101 wrote: »

Just brought in the first autumn calve, lovely heifer out of a first time calver Delighted
Two 3rd lactation cows due tomorrow also

What dairy sire do ya use on your heifers?

jersey101 · 21-08-2013 08:47PM

Timmaay wrote: »

What dairy sire do ya use on your heifers?

this heifer had pbm in her easy calving she had it out in an hour, used mostly JE on all the heifers this year there all near 100% HO

Timmaay · 21-08-2013 08:54PM

Interesting, any heifers we put in calf to dairy are all easy calving (HMY and MZK main 2 we used), it was hard enough to convince my dad to use anything other than easy calving AAs, but I might go with the likes of PBM etc in the future.

whelan1 · 21-08-2013 08:57PM

isnt it mad to see how quick they get up and suck, was watching one out the window earlier, after ten minutes he was up trying to drink

Good loser · 21-08-2013 09:02PM

Manoffeeling wrote: »

It's from start to finish with a 12 6 slat with 9 inches in floor. I'd be slow to skimp and whinge if its done right.

Is 12' 6'' done much now? Thought it was nearly all 14' 6'' and 16' 6'' - especially for a 100' tank.

jersey101 · 21-08-2013 09:06PM

whelan1 wrote: »

isnt it mad to see how quick they get up and suck, was watching one out the window earlier, after ten minutes he was up trying to drink

i had to get this calve in to the shed fairly quick after she calved theres one ***** of a cow that will take over any calve if she gets a chance, calve was mad to suck doh nice to have calves around the place again

jersey101 · 21-08-2013 09:09PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Interesting, any heifers we put in calf to dairy are all easy calving (HMY and MZK main 2 we used), it was hard enough to convince my dad to use anything other than easy calving AAs, but I might go with the likes of PBM etc in the future.

we've been using all HO here for the last 3 yr going to cross them back again now, i found it hard to get my father to put angus in any cows this year, ill work on it again next year, no point in haveing april heifers around the place

td5man · 21-08-2013 09:15PM

Manoffeeling wrote: »

With extra steel and slats on, it's coming in near 25k, that's with the VAT. Am I being rode?

That seems ok about €250/ft is the going rate.

Timmaay · 21-08-2013 09:44PM

jersey101 wrote: »

we've been using all HO here for the last 3 yr going to cross them back again now, i found it hard to get my father to put angus in any cows this year, ill work on it again next year, no point in haveing april heifers around the place

I know the feeling, have a bloody June 2012 born heifer here, but she was fairly big so I AI'd her at 13months old, She showed up repeating the other day and my dad was like fire ahead and AI her again :rolleyes:, if she shows up in 3wks time again she'll be ignored ha, and pushed over to the autumn! But you don't have a bull do ya? Takes out most of the work for the stragglers, going to pickup a nice small AA bull for next year, the current LM hasn't been the most fruitful this year with lameness etc. Have 7 April dairy calves due next year here, not ideal either, but all the may one are beef at least.

Manoffeeling · 21-08-2013 09:54PM

Good loser wrote: »

Is 12' 6'' done much now? Thought it was nearly all 14' 6'' and 16' 6'' - especially for a 100' tank.

It'll be big enough. There will be 35 foot of a lie back area.

jersey101 · 21-08-2013 09:58PM

Timmaay wrote: »

I know the feeling, have a bloody June 2012 born heifer here, but she was fairly big so I AI'd her at 13months old, She showed up repeating the other day and my dad was like fire ahead and AI her again :rolleyes:, if she shows up in 3wks time again she'll be ignored ha, and pushed over to the autumn! But you don't have a bull do ya? Takes out most of the work for the stragglers, going to pickup a nice small AA bull for next year, the current LM hasn't been the most fruitful this year with lameness etc. Have 7 April dairy calves due next year here, not ideal either, but all the may one are beef at least.

id say by the sounds of it you were in the same boat as i was 4yr ago, calvin from spring till autumn? What we ended up doing was let heifers calve over two and if they were old enough to be ai'd fo spring they would if not they were left for autumn calving, only way we could do it without culling cows now we have a proper calving pattern autumn is from end of august to mid nov spring this year is mid/late jan to end of march, now im concentrating on my calving interval. No no bull here never had one i dont really want one either tbh my father can always catch cows so i should be the same i hope.

Bizzum · 21-08-2013 10:02PM

Manoffeeling wrote: »

It'll be big enough. There will be 35 foot of a lie back area.

Sounds like a serious job. It's a good while since we done a shed so I'd be ni good to you on prices.
Looking back though at ours, the biggest regret we have is not putting in locking barriers. Calves coming and goin of their own accord is a pain.
35' is some lie back. Any thoughts of puttint a crush down the back?

Manoffeeling · 21-08-2013 10:15PM

Bizzum wrote: »

Sounds like a serious job. It's a good while since we done a shed so I'd be ni good to you on prices.
Looking back though at ours, the biggest regret we have is not putting in locking barriers. Calves coming and goin of their own accord is a pain.
35' is some lie back. Any thoughts of puttint a crush down the back?

Putting crush on outside wall in a yard 15 ft by 90, the length of the shed. It is the only building I am planning to do. I have over 70 acres of a good grass farm but it has no buildings of any kind. Build once and hopefully build it right.

Good loser · 21-08-2013 10:29PM

Manoffeeling wrote: »

Putting crush on outside wall in a yard 15 ft by 90, the length of the shed. It is the only building I am planning to do. I have over 70 acres of a good grass farm but it has no buildings of any kind. Build once and hopefully build it right.

Will your slurry capacity be okay for Nitrates standards?

Manoffeeling · 21-08-2013 10:33PM

Good loser wrote: »

Will your slurry capacity be okay for Nitrates standards?

I am almost 100% sure. My teagasc dude is on board.

Kovu · 22-08-2013 08:24AM

AntrimGlens wrote: »

was on a farm walk today and jack kennedy from the comic was there with the laptop out - not often we get the "big boys" this far up :pac:

got pm on the bitch back from the vets - they can't find anything on histology and the dept lab won't do toxicology without a police report and have to send the samples to the states - Â£25 per test and you have to tell them which tests you want carried out and what drugs to test for - i'm not a fecking chemist how'd I know. seriously?

Our vet would do a PM no bother. Normally a poison shows up in blood streem, i.e. too much of this or that. Or heart has seized after working too hard on too few wbc.
What I'm trying to say basically is that the blood shouls still show it, even after death. I was shown how to do it during one PM as I was stand in assistant. But that was 7 years ago so I'm a little rusty.

bbam · 22-08-2013 08:41AM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Our vet would do a PM no bother. Normally a poison shows up in blood streem, i.e. too much of this or that. Or heart has seized after working too hard on too few wbc.
What I'm trying to say basically is that the blood shouls still show it, even after death. I was shown how to do it during one PM as I was stand in assistant. But that was 7 years ago so I'm a little rusty.

Our Vet did a PM last summer, took 2-3 hours, all organs removed and sent off, she went to the knackery and opened the head (they aren't allowed open the head on site anymore since BSE) and the total cost was under €100. She didn't charge for the PM work itself, the callout was €20 DOA which was more than decent.

hugo29 · 22-08-2013 08:42AM

Manoffeeling wrote: »

Putting crush on outside wall in a yard 15 ft by 90, the length of the shed. It is the only building I am planning to do. I have over 70 acres of a good grass farm but it has no buildings of any kind. Build once and hopefully build it right.

one thing i would say is extend the roof to cover the crush

Kovu · 22-08-2013 08:44AM

bbam wrote: »

Our Vet did a PM last summer, took 2-3 hours, all organs removed and sent off, she went to the knackery and opened the head (they aren't allowed open the head on site anymore since BSE) and the total cost was under €100. She didn't charge for the PM work itself, the callout was €20 DOA which was more than decent.

Exactly what I mean. Although going by the name, Antrim would be northern therefore British rules

Trying to get my cat ready for a show on Sunday. He is not amused.

Neither are my scratched arms

hugo29 · 22-08-2013 08:50AM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Exactly what I mean. Although going by the name, Antrim would be northern therefore British rules

Trying to get my cat ready for a show on Sunday. He is not amused.

Neither are my scratched arms

careful on the British, that there is a bad word:D

how do ya get a cat ready for a show:D he will be wrecked again by sunday

Birdnuts · 22-08-2013 08:56AM

AntrimGlens wrote: »

got pm on the bitch back from the vets - they can't find anything on histology and the dept lab won't do toxicology without a police report and have to send the samples to the states - Â£25 per test and you have to tell them which tests you want carried out and what drugs to test for - i'm not a fecking chemist how'd I know. seriously?

That is indeed unsatisfactory. Down here as others have mentioned such tests are now routine. Indeed the Dept of Agriculture and NPWS have recently set up a data-base of poisoning cases so that "problem areas" can be identified and dealt with by the relevant authorities.

hugo29 · 22-08-2013 09:05AM

has anyone spread fert on the silage ground while the cattle are still grazing the headlands,

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