Bradley Manning gets 35 years

Tombo2001 · 21-08-2013 03:48PM #1

....which apparently the US military are disappointed with. They asked for him to get 60.

He is dishonourably discharged from the army and gets no pay or benefits.

Under military law Manning will be eligible for parole after serving a third of his sentence, or around 11 years. He has served 3.5 years of that already.

wazky · 21-08-2013 03:49PM

The English fella who races pushbikes?

Wacker The Attacker · 21-08-2013 03:49PM

Bur Barack Obama said he'd treat whistle blowers fairly.

He didn't lie did he?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/obama-whistleblower-website_n_3658815.html

Wacker The Attacker · 21-08-2013 03:50PM

wazky wrote: »

The English fella who races pushbikes?

I thought it was Osama Bin Laden that lived in a cave

Tombo2001 · 21-08-2013 03:51PM

wazky wrote: »

The English fella who races pushbikes?

thats right, the yellow jersey guy who looks like Paul Weller.....

wazky · 21-08-2013 03:51PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I thought it was Osama Bin Laden that lived in a cave

Nope he lives at the bottom of the sea now, just like Spongebob.

Tombo2001 · 21-08-2013 03:52PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Bur Barack Obama said he'd treat whistle blowers fairly.

He didn't lie did he?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/obama-whistleblower-website_n_3658815.html

Manning is apparently a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize, which Obama won a few years back.....

super_furry · 21-08-2013 03:53PM

Obama is worse than Bush every was. At least Bush was honest in his corruption.

SEPT 23 1989 · 21-08-2013 03:54PM

stay strong Bradley

Mr Benevolent · 21-08-2013 03:54PM

And I should care because....?

Wacker The Attacker · 21-08-2013 03:55PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Manning is apparently a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize, which Obama won a few years back.....

Clearly a more deserving winner

Wacker The Attacker · 21-08-2013 03:56PM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

And I should care because....?

You posted here

SEPT 23 1989 · 21-08-2013 03:56PM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

And I should care because....?

he is famous and cool

I Heart Internet · 21-08-2013 03:57PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Under military law Manning will be eligible for parole after serving a third of his sentence, or around 11 years. He has served 3.5 years of that already.

That's somewhat heartening. I wouldn't have liked to have seen him banged away for decades.

He did some wrong and broke the law but I don't think there was any intent to jepordise the lives of his comrades or citizens.

I SUSPECT that Barack Obama may pardon him in the closing days of this presidency.....that's just a hunch.

super_furry · 21-08-2013 03:59PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Under military law Manning will be eligible for parole after serving a third of his sentence, or around 11 years. He has served 3.5 years of that already.

Depends who's on that parole board. If there's anyone at all from the military, he could well be forced to serve out the full 35 years.

I Heart Internet · 21-08-2013 03:59PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Clearly a more deserving winner

Anyone would have been more deserving than Obama at that stage. It was embarressing. I think Obamam is generally a good guy but I think even he was a little confused that they gave him that award within days of getting the presidency.

It smacked of, "Oh great, you're black, here have a nobel peace prize." Nonsense.

Tombo2001 · 21-08-2013 04:00PM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

And I should care because....?

Yes the whole world really is like The Truman Show where everyone is just here to serve you......

DipStick McSwindler · 21-08-2013 04:01PM

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Wacker The Attacker · 21-08-2013 04:01PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Anyone would have been more deserving than Obama at that stage. It was embarressing. I think Obamam is generally a good guy but I think even he was a little confused that they gave him that award within days of getting the presidency.

It smacked of, "Oh great, you're black, here have a nobel peace prize." Nonsense.

It is an impossible award to justify.

gobnaitolunacy · 21-08-2013 04:02PM

Feel kinda sorry for him.
Not the sharpest tool in the box and used by Assange.

I Heart Internet · 21-08-2013 04:02PM

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

Nohe didnt, he did break the law. But he was morally justified in what he did. 35 years is good compared to what he could of gotten!

Opinions clearly differ on the rights and wrongs but he did break the law, as you say.

I'd have liked to see him walk free - but compared to what he could have got......

karma_ · 21-08-2013 04:03PM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

And I should care because....?

With a username like that, don't disappoint us all!?

Tombo2001 · 21-08-2013 04:03PM

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

Nohe didnt, he did break the law. But he was morally justified in what he did. 35 years is good compared to what he could of gotten!

He gave a statement at the close of the trial where he more or less apologised and said that he did things the wrong way. While I've no doubt that that was self-serving and on the advice of his lawyers, I also formed the view that he himself believed he went about it the wrong way.

I Heart Internet · 21-08-2013 04:03PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

It is an impossible award to justify.

No it's not.

They didn't even try. Hopped on the Obama band-wagon.

Tombo2001 · 21-08-2013 04:04PM

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Feel kinda sorry for him.
Not the sharpest tool in the box and used by Assange.

I'd agree.

Nodin · 21-08-2013 04:11PM

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Feel kinda sorry for him.
Not the sharpest tool in the box and used by Assange.

A confused young eejit would be my take on him. Considering how rigorous some parts of the US military are supposed to be about getting the right people, ye'd wonder how the jaysus he ended up where he was. Mind you, there was talk of having trouble making up the numbers at the time.

21-08-2013 04:15PM

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

And I should care because....?

....because you came into the thread...

humanji · 21-08-2013 04:16PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Bur Barack Obama said he'd treat whistle blowers fairly.

He didn't lie did he?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/obama-whistleblower-website_n_3658815.html

I wouldn't really classify Manning as a whistleblower. He released a shed load of information without fully knowing what it contained. Any whistles that were blown were purely coincidental.

All in all he just comes across as a guy who isn't the sharpest, and who is being used as a scapegoat by Assange and the US government.

Tombo2001 · 21-08-2013 04:18PM

humanji wrote: »

I wouldn't really classify Manning as a whistleblower. He released a shed load of information without fully knowing what it contained. Any whistles that were blown were purely coincidental.

All in all he just comes across as a guy who isn't the sharpest, and who is being used as a scapegoat by Assange and the US government.

Sounds a bit like the girls in Peru.......but he knew what he was doing.......

gobnaitolunacy · 21-08-2013 04:20PM

Nodin wrote: »

A confused young eejit would be my take on him. Considering how rigorous some parts of the US military are supposed to be about getting the right people, ye'd wonder how the jaysus he ended up where he was. Mind you, there was talk of having trouble making up the numbers at the time.

I don't think the US military are picky about the grade of cannon fodder.

Nodin · 21-08-2013 04:21PM

I Heart Internet wrote: »

That's somewhat heartening. I wouldn't have liked to have seen him banged away for decades.

He did some wrong and broke the law but I don't think there was any intent to jepordise the lives of his comrades or citizens.

I SUSPECT that Barack Obama may pardon him in the closing days of this presidency.....that's just a hunch.

...having seen and read a few things on various parole boards in the US over the years, I'd say its not that heartening at all.

Bradley Manning gets 35 years

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