3 year old dead in 'Merica after shooting himself with pistol

Egan2012 wrote: »

most 3 year olds wouldn't understand that about guns. The easiest thing is just not have them in the house. No common sence on the parents side of course. I wouldn't leave my young fella in a room on his own for 5 minutes or he would be hanging out of the ceiling. No matter how many times you tell him not to. That's what 3 year olds do

Most boys come out of the womb pointing a finger and going pew! pew!

If there is a gun in the house, lock it up.
Teach the child how to be safe, never touch it without an adult, go get an adult.
Teach the child to shoot if there is a gun in the house, that way they understand the difference between a toy and the real thing.
Again, never touch without an adult.
If you find one, stop, don't touch, go tell an adult.

These aren't hard rules for a 3 year to understand. Much the same as never touch the oven. Don't stick your fingers in the socket.

MadsL wrote: »

Because that is what you want to debate instead of what happened?

Nice try.

Do you never get bored of this? Every gun thread

Nodin wrote: »

...I had no idea that targets were alive. Thanks for that.

What would you like the average man or woman to hunt with, btw?

Couldn't the hunters ram the animals with their cars? They're so similar to guns.

pablomakaveli wrote: »

They need handguns and assault rifles to hunt?

People licence semi automatics to hunt here so there is clearly a need for them if they're available even here.

clairefontaine wrote: »

Can someone answer how a three year old was able to pull this trigger?

Trigger job. Could have been lightened to 2-3 lbs.

More reason NOT to have a trigger lightened, especially on a CCW.

pablomakaveli wrote: »

They need handguns and assault rifles to hunt?

Yes, if I were hunting javelina (wild boar) I would want a very, very large caliber handgun .

If one of those charges, and you miss with a rifle, unless you have a sidearm you are getting your leg gored.

And..




*sigh*


How many times do we have to say it...

Full auto is not available to the vast, vast, vast majority of Americans and yes a "scary" black rifle is an extremely practical hunting weapon. I saw several at a NM Game and Fish event at the weekend.

Noting new for Yankestan. uncivilised ****hole.

No doubt there will be the usual chorus of yokels saying Obama made this happen so he can take their guns.

pablomakaveli wrote: »

I seriously doubt every handgun owner in America is a boar hunter.

A moment ago you doubted handguns were used in hunting.

And having assault rifles available for hunting isn't exactly going to convince me that the risk and damage they can cause when turned on people is worth a slightly more efficient hunting experience.

Do you really want to do this? Have you the first notion of what this notional "assault rifle" is?

I shot a musket for the first time this weekend. It has a .50 cal ball. I sure as shit would not want to get shot by it, .50 cal is about as big as your thumbnail.

If I were to pick one to be shot with it sure would not be the musket.

clairefontaine wrote: »

That's called road kill. Yes that happens sometimes.

As opposed to something killed by accident on a road? Strange they need guns at all so...

MadsL wrote: »

If you work in law enforcement, security or other armed profession, you don't have a lot of choice do you?

In that scenario I would have a biometric gun safe in a location that the kids were warned out of "Daddy's/Mommy's closet". Tossed in a closet, unlocked, safety off, chambered. Err. NO.

Likewise, there are some locations in the US where a gun in the house is advisable.

I would hope that anyone with both guns and kids in the house checks themselves and both teaches the kids "stop, don't touch, tell an adult" and locks up their guns securely at all times.

From your posts, it is obvious you have a pro gun stance. Which is your right to have and all that, good to see you're very conscientious about the safety aspect.

I can't help but feel tho, that the availability of guns to the average Joe state side leads to people believing they need one.

I have been in countries with armed and unarmed forces, stayed in some pretty rough places, but never felt the need to carry a fire arm. Why? Because the odds of someone going through all the trouble of illegally obtaining a firearm to shoot me isn't really worth the trouble.

Where as, if the criminal thinks i am armed, well then he needs to be armed too!

Love2u wrote: »

What gobsh!te thinks its ok to own a firearm and then bring it into a home with an innocent child.

The policeman putting food in the mouth of the innocent child by going out to work perhaps?

The gun laws are not the problem, the brains of some people are the problem. RIP to a little angel.

No argument with you there.

Love2u wrote: »

Oh my God. Mod please close down this thread, an innocent child has been killed and now we have people doing detective work trying to figure out who pulled the trigger. Respect, FF's.

I wasn't doing detective work, I was merely pointing out that most guns bought new are too heavy a trigger pull for a child to pull. For example, I have taken a 110 lb girl shooting who simply did not have the hand strength to pull the trigger on a revolver we were shooting.

This child should have had to:

Unlock the case
Chamber a round (3 not strong/able enough to rack the slide)
Figure out the safety
Pull trigger

That is 4 things a 3 year should not have been able to do. Not only did this muppet leave the gun out, he left it loaded, safety off, with (I presume) a lightened trigger.