Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

Pedalstool · 19-08-2013 08:36PM

Grayditch wrote: »

And what happens after that?

I think they shut the club down til next season.

mike65 · 19-08-2013 08:37PM

Borini! 4-2

Shocking back pass by Utd.

Grayditch · 19-08-2013 08:37PM

Borini, good man.

Mr Alan · 19-08-2013 08:38PM

Grayditch wrote: »

And what happens after that?

Then we finish 6th/7th without ever really challenging for the CL.

5live · 19-08-2013 08:38PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

It's important to keep re-iterating this IMO. Otherwise the goalposts will be moved in an effort to heap praise on management/FSG.

Wow.

You are starting to sound paranoid.

I cannot recall one poster on this or the last thread that wasnt of the opinion that 2 to 3 starters were required to improve the first team. Perhaps you can point me in the direction of such a post?

To a man here, we will criticise or praise FSG/the management when WE decide it is needed and NOT when you decide.

We are capable of making up our own minds on the evidence we see from day to day and not for fear of being denigrated by you .

If our opininions dont suit you then tough titty. Deal with it and move on.

Btw, definate stink of Borini off our CF tonight!
Rant over...for now anyways.

Pedalstool · 19-08-2013 08:39PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I'm calling it now. Jordan Rossiter will be the best central midfielder that the academy has produced since Gerrard. It's frightening just how good this kid is and he's only 16.

“Jordan Rossiter has trained with us a few times. I like the look of him. He’s got a bit of character and steel that me and Stevie have had – When he was 15 he was playing for the U18s, which is a tremendous accolade for the lad. He’s a great talent,” Carragher told the Liverpool website.

Its one thing being a 16 year old playing on the wing for the Under 21's but anchoring the midfield at 16 is quite an achievement.

Grayditch · 19-08-2013 08:41PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Then we finish 6th/7th without ever really challenging for the CL.

Because of what happens on the the thread. Ok. So many of your posts seems to be about proving posters wrong, as opposed to the actual team not succeeding, but gwan. Fair play.

PhiloCypher · 19-08-2013 08:42PM

mike65 wrote: »

Liverpool lead 3-2. But Utd have the upper hand, Liverpool are running on fumes

They pressed pretty hard at times in that first half from what I saw, so probably to be expected given its the first game of the season for them.

spockety · 19-08-2013 08:46PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

He's talking about Cissokho recapturing that form. Kinda like when we bought Joe Cole & hoped he'd recapture his previous form.

I like ya Alan but sweet jesus I get tired just reading your posts these last few months.

;-)

OwaynOTT · 19-08-2013 08:47PM

mike65 wrote: »

Jordon Ibe
Jordan Lussey
Jordan Rossitter
Jordan Henderson

We all dream of a team full of Jordans and left backs.

Mr Alan · 19-08-2013 08:47PM

spockety wrote: »

I like ya Alan but sweet jesus I get tired just reading your posts these last few months.

;-)

jesus_thats_gre · 19-08-2013 08:47PM

5live wrote: »

Wow.

You are starting to sound paranoid.

I cannot recall one poster on this or the last thread that wasnt of the opinion that 2 to 3 starters were required to improve the first team. Perhaps you can point me in the direction of such a post?

To a man here, we will criticise or praise FSG/the management when WE decide it is needed and NOT when you decide.

We are capable of making up our own minds on the evidence we see from day to day and not for fear of being denigrated by you .

If our opininions dont suit you then tough titty. Deal with it and move on.

Ironically, Alan and co are being harangued out of here for having their own opinion.

It is the nature in which their posts are being dismissed that has Alan posting in this nature.

Consider what Alan and Lloyd have been saying regarding the current owners ambitions and willingness to invest in players and also the managers ability to turn things around.

Do you see now why Alan is asking the questions that he is asking?

If the players that are needed are not signed, what does it mean? Is then ok to question the owners or the the manager?

The excuse of "the right players weren't available" excuse will can't wash this time around.

LuckyLloyd · 19-08-2013 08:51PM

seanwhite20 wrote: »

Guess he won't be going to FC Vatican so!

To be honest, they've been struggling to find a goalie since 2005. Think that's their main priority in the market tbh.

Pilsbury Doughboy · 19-08-2013 08:51PM

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Nuri Sahin · 19-08-2013 08:51PM

Suso starts for Almería.

T-K-O · 19-08-2013 08:52PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Ironically, Alan and co are being harangued out of here for having their own opinion.

It is the nature in which their posts are being dismissed that has Alan posting in this nature.

Consider what Alan and Lloyd have been saying regarding the current owners ambitions and willingness to invest in players and also the managers ability to turn things around.

Do you see now why Alan is asking the questions that he is asking?

If the players that are needed are not signed, what does it mean? Is then ok to question the owners or the the manager?

The excuse of "the right players weren't available" excuse will can't wash this time around.

By the same token, guys are entitled to wait until the window closes before lambasting the club.

whatawaster · 19-08-2013 08:52PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Ironically, Alan and co are being harangued out of here for having their own opinion.

Seriously, would you quit this?

They are not

mike65 · 19-08-2013 08:53PM

How the feck did Petrucci stay on!?

FT 4-2 Liverpool, Borini x2 Ibe and Morgan.

They were on fumes and some lousy ball retention but a win is a win and the first half pass and move was very pleasing. Rossitter is clearly a level above any other pure central midfielder at the club. You can see him as a thin Molby/Alonso mix in 5 years time

T-K-O · 19-08-2013 08:54PM

whatawaster wrote: »

Seriously, would you quit this?

They are not

Agreed, that seems to be the new company line.

Chucky the tree · 19-08-2013 08:54PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Ironically, Alan and co are being harangued out of here for having their own opinion.

It is the nature in which their posts are being dismissed that has Alan posting in this nature.

Consider what Alan and Lloyd have been saying regarding the current owners ambitions and willingness to invest in players and also the managers ability to turn things around.

Do you see now why Alan is asking the questions that he is asking?

If the players that are needed are not signed, what does it mean? Is then ok to question the owners or the the manager?

The excuse of "the right players weren't available" excuse will can't wash this time around.

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Raif Severance · 19-08-2013 08:57PM

The Persecution Card again?

TBH it's been beyond overplayed at this point.

T-K-O · 19-08-2013 08:57PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

The babe thread is in the gentleman's club

PhiloCypher · 19-08-2013 08:57PM

Does mostar do compilations of these under 21 games, wanna get a closer look at this Rossiter lad everyone is raving about.

Turtyturd · 19-08-2013 08:57PM

Does Fabio's performance buy him a bit of time with his detractors, especially when you consider Shelvey looked like um....a footballer at that level.

Raif Severance · 19-08-2013 08:58PM

According to the Graphics, Suso plays LW and wears #17.

whatawaster · 19-08-2013 08:59PM

If anyone has an English stream for the Almeria game, I'd appreciate a PM

spockety · 19-08-2013 09:00PM

T-K-O wrote: »

By the same token, guys are entitled to wait until the window closes before lambasting the club.

I think anyone can form an opinion any time they want to be honest.

However, I find the "black and white" nature of the whole thing really annoying and amusing at the same time. Nobody really knows what the club's transfer strategy is, what the transfer budget is, the entire picture of what signings were pursued, the entire picture as to why some signings worked out and some didn't, the factors which caused a particular player to choose another club over Liverpool, or whether despite what may have been printed in the press Liverpool were ever actually really in the hunt for player X or not.

I see other utterly hilarious simpleton assertions like "We have the TV money, we should be spending it, other clubs are!", or "Does anybody know when we receive the actual cheque for the new TV money?". LFC is a multi hundred pound a year business guys, run by people who understand the mechanics of running a business with that much revenue.

Me? I'm the type of supporter who wants Rodgers to do as well as I wanted Kenny to do, which is as well as I wanted Rafa to do, and Houllier before him. (I couldn't stand Hodgson for whatever reason, an anomaly in my mind). I don't judge the owners on transfers alone, as even though they might say things in public to win over supporters, it's not always that simple.

Liverpool couldn't sign Messi even if we had £150m to bid for him and an offer of £1m a week in wages.

T-K-O · 19-08-2013 09:00PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Does Fabio's performance buy him a bit of time with his detractors, especially when you consider Shelvey looked like um....a footballer at that level.

IMO, Borini looked sharp when he returned at the end of last season. He also did pretty well for Italy in the summer.

He's no Suarez but I think he can do a job for us

LuckyLloyd · 19-08-2013 09:01PM

G.K. wrote: »

When people ignore the context of stats, which I believe to be an incredibly powerful tool, or use stats badly, I rage.

The sample size of games without Suarez must be tiny. He'll have played in just about every game he was available for selection. I imagine the games he didn't feature in included the easy EL games last year, and the dead rubbers at the end of last season. In the tough games which ye lost, he was typically playing. But there haven't been a lot of those style of games where he didn't play.

That alone utterly devalues the statement which is supposedly 'backed up by the stats.' The sample sizes would have to be equal for that stat to even remotely have use. I remember a similar one about Modric a few seasons back.

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Smart, spot on post.

sweetie · 19-08-2013 09:02PM

Carragher doing his thing on sky, think he'll do well there.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

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