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BloodBath · 19-08-2013 08:45PM

It's hard to recapture that kind of magic though. It was an original title and you, probably like me, were pretty young when you played it. It was an original experience around a time where the whole alien/ufo culture was popular with the likes of x-files on tv. As much as the zombie culture is popular today.

I have gone back to play it on numerous occasions over the years though and it still has the same magic for me at least. It could be just nostalgia but it was an amazing game for it's time. Firaxis did a good job in fairness to them. I really enjoyed the game but it wasn't a patch on the original experience I had and I doubt I will go back for a second play through unless they release new content.

Baked.noodle · 19-08-2013 08:59PM

I was in school, and I think not many of my collogues had a clue about it. I agree it was fresh for us, and it probably has a lot to do with the impact it had for me. But not only this, I suppose it combined different game play mechanics and cultural ides in a very new and unique way. I think what really makes it great is how you can tell Mythos Games didn't make many (if any) compromises, save what's imposed by the little resources they, and we, had. You want base building, you got it. You want research, you got it. You want strategy, you got it. You want atmosphere, you got it. Want to defend the earth your way, day or night, you got it. It was just so ambitious; they tried to squeeze everything into what they had to work with, and they didn't care if you didn't like the graphics (which I personally love). I'm glad it touched you in a similar way.

Edit: Not that I'm a game developer, but I imagine they built the game they wanted to play. Not the game they thought we would be willing to play.

nesf · 19-08-2013 09:02PM

Aye. Also, it, and a combination of Panzer General, Steel Panthers and Alpha Centari (Civ was never as good as it for me), ensured I'd be a lifelong strategy gamer and doing my best to bring my son down the same path.

Gumbi · 20-08-2013 02:17AM

Haswell is so funky. Having messed around with the settings for quite some time, I managed to get 4.5ghz stable, HT off, with a relatively low 1.25v.

What voltages are others needing to maintain similar overclocks?

Does anyone else have a Gigabyte board? Is the BIOS update necessary to implement adaptive voltages? When I set a manual voltage, it doesn't down volt as it should during normal/idle usage.

Anyways, must sleep!

Revoker88 · 20-08-2013 06:30AM

Anybody know of a quick way to see what version of drivers i have for my motherboard? I have windows 7 64-bit

Edit: Nvm,found what i needed:)

game4it70 · 20-08-2013 08:04AM

Gumbi wrote: »

Haswell is so funky. Having messed around with the settings for quite some time, I managed to get 4.5ghz stable, HT off, with a relatively low 1.25v.

What voltages are others needing to maintain similar overclocks?

Does anyone else have a Gigabyte board? Is the BIOS update necessary to implement adaptive voltages? When I set a manual voltage, it doesn't down volt as it should during normal/idle usage.

Anyways, must sleep!

I need just over 1.25v for 4.5ghz and i think its just about average and nothing special

Have you enabled C3 power state and EIST?
Far as i know that should drop volts and multi when idle.
I dont have a giga board to test though.

Gumbi · 20-08-2013 11:18AM

game4it70 wrote: »

I need just over 1.25v for 4.5ghz and i think its just about average and nothing special

Have you enabled C3 power state and EIST?
Far as i know that should drop volts and multi when idle.
I dont have a giga board to test though.

I'll check. I'm pretty sure I do.

My friend has a decent chip, stable at 4.6ghz with 1.24v

game4it70 · 20-08-2013 11:20AM

Gumbi wrote: »

I'll check. I'm pretty sure I do.

My friend has a decent chip, stable at 4.6ghz with 1.24v

Lucky fecker :P

I think if that doesn't work you have to use offset.

Gumbi · 20-08-2013 11:56AM

game4it70 wrote: »

Lucky fecker :P

I think if that doesn't work you have to use offset.

Offset isn't as stable as manual/adaptive as it is based off a predefined curve AFAIK.

It should work though, no reason it shouldn't :P

game4it70 · 20-08-2013 12:01PM

Gumbi wrote: »

Offset isn't as stable as manual/adaptive as it is based off a predefined curve AFAIK.

It should work though, no reason it shouldn't :P

Maybe try LLC when using offset to bring the volts up to where you know is stable.

Gumbi · 20-08-2013 12:06PM

game4it70 wrote: »

Maybe try LLC when using offset to bring the volts up to where you know is stable.

I'll mess around with it after work. I want to get 4.7ghz without hyperthreading on. Sc2 loves that single threaded performance.

game4it70 · 20-08-2013 12:10PM

Gumbi wrote: »

I'll mess around with it after work. I want to get 4.7ghz without hyperthreading on. Sc2 loves that single threaded performance.

How much extra vcore do you need from 4.5 to 4.6?
It should give you a decent indication of how much you will need at 4.7.

What are you using to stress test?

Gumbi · 20-08-2013 12:14PM

game4it70 wrote: »

How much extra vcore do you need from 4.5 to 4.6?
It should give you a decent indication of how much you will need at 4.7.

What are you using to stress test?

Quite a bit. Not the most optimised 4.6, but I needed 1.32v for it.

game4it70 · 20-08-2013 12:19PM

Gumbi wrote: »

Quite a bit. Not the most optimised 4.6, but I needed 1.32v for it.

I dont think you will make 4.7 on air and not delidded tbh.

The chip you have is better than mine but i'd guess you would still need around 1.4v (i'm almost stable @1.43v) which will be to hot imo.

Gumbi · 20-08-2013 12:22PM

game4it70 wrote: »

I dont think you will make 4.7 on air and not delidded tbh.
The chip you have is better than mine but i'd guess you would still need around 1.4v (i'm almost stable @1.43v) which will be to hot imo.

Perhaps, not while gaming though

And no HT cuts off ~10 degrees. If I can do it under 1.4 (1.38 or something) I might just stick with it.

The IMC on Haswell is far superior to the one on IB and people are managing to clock their RAM a lot higher on it. I'm goin to try my hand at overclocking my RAM too

game4it70 · 20-08-2013 12:35PM

Gumbi wrote: »

Perhaps, not while gaming though And no HT cuts off ~10 degrees. If I can do it under 1.4 (1.38 or something) I might just stick with it.

The IMC on Haswell is far superior to the one on IB and people are managing to clock their RAM a lot higher on it. I'm goin to try my hand at overclocking my RAM too

Just dial in the cpu oc first.
The imc is very good alright but running the ram higher can effect your cpu clock so beware

Sarz91 · 20-08-2013 10:40PM

Just as a matter of interest, is anyone getting a next gen console? Or are you guys just saving and upgrading your pc's?

Nolars · 20-08-2013 10:46PM

Sarz91 wrote: »

Just as a matter of interest, is anyone getting a next gen console? Or are you guys just saving and upgrading your pc's?

I pre-ordered an X1 mainly for Fifa and cod as the number just aren't on the PC. Mite pickup Halo aswell as friends will be on it. Will use PC for other 90% of games tho.

Baked.noodle · 20-08-2013 10:48PM

Plan to build an new system after it all settles down. I'm in no hurry to though. Haven't much of a clue if it will be AMD or Intel, but I think AMD are perhaps a little more innovative and unpredictable. Intel just seem to be drip feeding performance and whatever AMD release will probably be more flexible with overclocking etc and will probably pack enough punch to do the job well. I had an AMD system before my current build (Q6600) and I always liked them.

TerrorFirmer · 21-08-2013 07:12AM

I will be getting an X1 for Halo, but that's a while off yet so I won't be picking it up anytime soon.

WhiskeyGoblin · 21-08-2013 10:55AM

Waiting for a delivery from Dabs is killing me

cherryghost · 21-08-2013 10:59AM

Sarz91 wrote: »

Just as a matter of interest, is anyone getting a next gen console? Or are you guys just saving and upgrading your pc's?

Personally don't think I need an upgrade. The jump in graphics on console next gen is neglible. The hardware is more PC than ever so for some of us an upgrade isn't worth it.

raymix · 21-08-2013 11:33AM

Sarz91 wrote: »

Just as a matter of interest, is anyone getting a next gen console? Or are you guys just saving and upgrading your pc's?

Nah, Consoles are way too limited. I see them as little, expensive and weak casual gaming devices. You can get spoiled by PC so easy once you see good framerates and high resolution.
Got PS3 since it's release, plugged in while bored on my crappy 480p TV, with 30 frames and no AA my eyes started bleeding. But I like to use it as an expensive Netflix machine :rolleyes:

Sarz91 · 21-08-2013 01:45PM

raymix wrote: »

Nah, Consoles are way too limited. I see them as little, expensive and weak casual gaming devices. You can get spoiled by PC so easy once you see good framerates and high resolution.
Got PS3 since it's release, plugged in while bored on my crappy 480p TV, with 30 frames and no AA my eyes started bleeding. But I like to use it as an expensive Netflix machine :rolleyes:

Haha. I think the only reason I was contemplating getting one was I've zero friends on PC. I enjoy PC gaming a lot more but having mates online does sound good.

FlyingIrishMan · 21-08-2013 01:47PM

A PS3/PS4 is worth getting for Sony exclusives alone. Missing out on too many great games without one, graphics aren't everything.

SickBoy · 21-08-2013 02:59PM

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

A PS3/PS4 is worth getting for Sony exclusives alone. Missing out on too many great games without one, graphics aren't everything.

Then get a Wii :P

FlyingIrishMan · 21-08-2013 03:00PM

SickBoy wrote: »

Then get a Wii :P

I have a Wii

I just never play it.

raymix · 21-08-2013 03:05PM

Sarz91 wrote: »

I enjoy PC gaming a lot more but having mates online does sound good.

I'm in a same boat, but I've met some nice people to play with on servers or guilds/clans (depends on a game) that uses TS3.

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

A PS3/PS4 is worth getting for Sony exclusives alone. Missing out on too many great games without one, graphics aren't everything.

Yes that is also true, GoW and Dante's Inferno are good examples. Platform discrimination, I tell ya!

nesf · 21-08-2013 03:08PM

Yeah PS exclusives are something I do miss. I can get quite a lot of XBox games on the PC (despite owning an XBox, I'm more likely to get my PC to myself than the TV after the kids go to bed

) and I don't have a problem using a controller to play them. Platformers especially work better with one I think.

beno619 · 21-08-2013 04:22PM

While were on the console topic is seems the PS4 will pull further away from the Xbone.

Although both upcoming game consoles Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are based on AMD hardware, only PlayStation 4 incorporates hUMA [Heterogeneous Uniform Memory Access] for supporting a shared memory space. This was explained by AMD's Senior Product Marketing Manager Marc Diana to c't [big German IT magazine] at gamescom. This should put the 3D-performance of PlayStation 4 much farther ahead of Xbox One than many have expected so far. AMD sees hUMA as a key element for drastic performance improvements in combined processors. AMD's upcoming Kaveri desktop processors support hUMA as well.

Behind the scenes, c't could hear from developers that the 3D-performance of PlayStation 4 is very far ahead of Xbox One.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=77493461&postcount=1

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