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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

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  • #1352
    NukaCola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    Paulegend wrote: »
    just to clarify im not saying that the are "greats of the game" im just saying that those managers have done a great job is all.

    Please stop! :p


  • #1353
    Hoki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭Hoki


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    This morning you have used the word great to describe;

    1) Joe Allen
    2) Brendan Rodgers
    3) Our team (without Suarez)

    Just stop it.

    Needs more Arnie

    9504158.jpg


  • #1354
    Paulegend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    NukaCola wrote: »
    Please stop! :p

    im just saying that the likes of mcleish would be considered a great of the game where the likes of nevill has been great at his job........................


  • #1355
    NukaCola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    Pedalstool wrote: »
    I would rate Allen above Cleverly, but thats just me, I really like Joe Allen as a player.

    I'm still not sure what to do with Henderson.

    There is still plenty of time for both to mature into fine players, just right now, we need better in the CM.


  • #1356
    Strongbow10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    Paulegend wrote: »
    just to clarify im not saying that the are "greats of the game" im just saying that those managers have done a great job is all.

    but you did say they were all great managers. Moyes, Martinez, Bruce, Jol.... all great managers.


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  • #1357
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Paulegend wrote: »
    im just saying that the likes of mcleish would be considered a great of the game where the likes of nevill has been great at his job........................

    Am I really reading this?


  • #1358
    Strongbow10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    Paulegend wrote: »
    im just saying that the likes of mcleish would be considered a great of the game where the likes of nevill has been great at his job........................

    I now believe you are making an attempt at being a more sophisticated wind up merchant :pac:


  • #1359
    Strongbow10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    Knex. wrote: »
    Am I really reading this?

    don't fall for it, theres no way he could be that ridiculous, its a wind up.


  • #1360
    NukaCola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    Knex. wrote: »
    Am I really reading this?

    I think he's great


  • #1361
    Paulegend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    Strongbow10 wrote: »
    but you did say they were all great managers. Moyes, Martinez, Bruce, Jol.... all great managers.

    yea they have been great managers in their time at certain clubs.

    lets say you manage fulham and you qualify from the EL. then you would be a great manager

    if you manage man city and dont challenge for the title your not a great manager

    surely doing a great job should be judged diffrently based on the individual task at hand


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  • #1362
    Raif Severance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Raif Severance


    Grayditch wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure I got the the end of the cryptic maze that is the meaning of the term over-pay. I'll just leave this here, as it explains what I meant.

    You didn't get it.
    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    30 plus million, yes, without doubt.

    15m or so, not overly. In the context of more players leaving than being signed or the wage bill continuing to be reduced, no.

    When we are spending 40/50/60m net, then it will be completely put to bed.
    rob316 wrote: »
    Ya see this is whats wrong with the modern fan, you wouldnt be happy if we got Willian for 15 million but would be if we spent 30 million on him? That makes no sense. Would Coutinho be better player if he cost 30 million?

    We spent 35 million on Carroll and 20 million combined on sturridge and countinho. It doesnt take a genuis to see which is the better deal.

    Its about the right player not how much they cost.

    If we got him for 15M, I'm not sure why our Fans should Complain that we didn't pay 30M for him.

    As long as we got the Player in the end, it doesn't matter what we Paid for him.


  • #1363
    NukaCola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    Strongbow10 wrote: »
    I now believe you are making an attempt at being a more sophisticated wind up merchant :pac:
    Strongbow10 wrote: »
    don't fall for it, theres no way he could be that ridiculous, its a wind up.

    He may be a genius tbh......i'm in stitches anyways :pac:


  • #1364
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Defintely taking the píss now.

    Should have spotted it a while ago tbh


  • #1365
    Paulegend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    lol no i said as a tongue in cheek. nevill sure has done a great job but its nothing to do with what we are talking about and of course mcleish is ****e


  • #1366
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,622 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    McLeish is in no way a great manager.


  • #1367
    Kerrigooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    I just wasted half an hour of a lovely Sunday afternoon reading this mornings shite on here...FML :(


  • #1368
    Strongbow10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    Paulegend wrote: »
    yea they have been great managers in their time at certain clubs.

    lets say you manage fulham and you qualify from the EL. then you would be a great manager

    if you manage man city and dont challenge for the title your not a great manager

    surely doing a great job should be judged diffrently based on the individual task at hand

    Being "great" requires achievement over a prolonged period.

    You are not a great manager by getting fulham into Europe. You did a good job for a season yes, but the game is littered with one season wonders.


  • #1369
    shamrock55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    Fcuk spurs and fcuk avb, i follow liverpool and brendan rodgers,nothing or noone else matters


  • #1370
    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    Twitter machine now saying Eriksen deal is happening.

    Confused as a cow on astro turf.


  • #1371
    shamrock55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    Paulegend wrote: »
    great = doing better than previous form

    before rodgers are team was a mess. we pretended kenny was playing attractive football we over payed for mediocre players and we payed them too much so couldnt get rid of them. our team was going backwards. before kenny we had roy who tried to do a swan dive down the league. we where in a relegation battle ffs.

    so yes i think that rodgers in his time has been great. i agree to an extent what rarnes is saying about judging on trophies and 4th place but overall i think what rodgers has brought to the club is stablity and a foundation to build on. he are looking healthy squad wise and our football is great. we arent boring to watch and the way he presents himself is honorable and what should be expected of a manager of liverpool fc. that is why i think he has been great

    Very true


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  • #1372
    Paulegend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    happyoutscan wrote: »
    McLeish is in no way a great manager.

    of course he isnt. he underachieved

    Strongbow10 wrote: »
    Being "great" requires achievement over a prolonged period.

    You are not a great manager by getting fulham into Europe. You did a good job for a season yes, but the game is littered with one season wonders.

    yes i agree. thats what i mean. if you are over achieving for a prolonged period than you are doing a great job

    at the moment rodgers has overachieved(not in terms of results unfortunatly yet) in terms of dealing with the squad and getting stability at the club. now he needs to start challenging.

    if he finishs more than 10 points away from 4th he should go but so far he has done a great job. it doesnt matter if he finishes 5th or 10th. he just needs to be within 10 points or it will be a failure


  • #1373
    shamrock55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    djPSB wrote: »
    Twitter machine now saying Eriksen deal is happening.

    Confused as a cow on astro turf.

    Brilliant lol:D


  • #1374
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    djPSB wrote: »
    Lads calm the fook down and watch this. Should ease the stress levels.


    Michael Caine has had enough!


  • #1375
    NukaCola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    paulegend = shamrock


  • #1376
    billy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭billy2012


    Raif Severance wrote: »
    You didn't get it.





    If we got him for 15M, I'm not sure why our Fans should Complain that we didn't pay 30M for him.

    As long as we got the Player in the end, it doesn't matter what we Paid for him.

    I presumed I must of misread his posts!! Don't get it at all!!


  • #1377
    PhiloCypher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    The thread, or a lot of people in it, is desperate to just be allowed bask in silly positively spun pro-Liverpool opinions & if anyone dares challenge the nonsense it all kicks off.

    It's a shame the thread has gone the route of delusional nonsense seemingly being preferred over informed, well thought out opinion.

    I think we all spend wayyy too much time in this thread trying to manage the expectations/optimism/pessimism of fellow keyboard warriors which is daft really when you think about it. If I want to be optimistic about the season ahead I shouldn't be accused of being delusional any more then you should for being pessimistic.


  • #1378
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    djPSB wrote: »
    Twitter machine now saying Eriksen deal is happening.

    Confused as a cow on astro turf.

    We put our arm around Twitter and treat is as a friend, yet all it does is go out and troll the shit out of us.


  • #1379
    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    Why in the name of bejaysus is Alex McLeish being mentioned in this thread.


  • #1380
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    But NO ONE wants Eriksen! Shiote player.


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  • #1381
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Raif Severance wrote: »
    You didn't get it.



    Ugh. Right, my post was simple, but I'll try add more milk. There's a difference between paying too much for a sought after Brazilian star, than Downing who nobody was in for. I made no suggestion of either being good or bad ways of doing business.

    My response was to your "Have we learned nothing about over paying" and the point was that at least we would be overpaying for something we could use. As in there's at least somewhat of a difference, worthy of noting.


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