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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

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  • #1292
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,621 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    Hmmm far too many parallels to be drawn there to be frank. Feel for the poor bollox to be honest. He is the product of placating and misleading fans.

    Sounds like pool fans during the H&G era


  • #1293
    Bloc Party!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Bloc Party!


    MD1990 wrote: »
    strongly agree
    every signing Spurs make alot of fans on here autmatocally think there great
    Spurs lack creativity & are poor at the back & Bale will be a massive loss

    Dont want to turn this into a spurs thread but what is bales story now? any sign of him going to madrid?


  • #1294
    [Deleted User]
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    Paulegend wrote: »
    yes i think rodgers has been great. he has us playing football. will he be a success i dont know but he has done much better with both the media and the fans compared to managers before him. when he was at swansea they where praised for playing the "barca football" and where said to be playing better football than arsenal. now we are playing better football than the "pretty football" arsenal.

    as io said i dont know if he will win anything with us but so far he has been great


    It's a bit early to be lavishing words like great on our manager ffs. To become a great manager you need to be winning major honours, not fannying around in 7th spot.


  • #1295
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    djPSB wrote: »
    If we keep Suarez and sign Willian, I don't think fans can have can have many complaints about this summers' business.

    No, I would agree with you. No real justifiable reason to complain.

    No major reason to be jumping up an down with joy though.

    With the numbers that have left the club, with the wage bill being reduced and us being neutral on net spend, a Willian type signing is pretty much an expectation.


  • #1296
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Sounds like pool fans during the H&G era

    Our fans were a lot angrier, and justifiably so, than this guy is.

    My fear is that being us in 2/3/4 seasons time.


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  • #1297
    Pedalstool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Pedalstool


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    30 plus million, yes, without doubt.

    15m or so, not overly. In the context of more players leaving than being signed or the wage bill continuing to be reduced, no.

    When we are spending 40/50/60m net, then it will be completely put to bed.

    I think the fee will be around the £30 million mark.

    FSG have said that the club will be self sufficient, are we creating a £60 million surplus? I don't expect them to put their own cash in, thats not sustainable and in my view not the right approach.


  • #1298
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,609 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    30 plus million, yes, without doubt.

    15m or so, not overly. In the context of more players leaving than being signed or the wage bill continuing to be reduced, no.

    When we are spending 40/50/60m net, then it will be completely put to bed.

    Depends also if you factor in the Coutinho and Sturridge fees into last year or this year's budget. Considering this time last year we wouldn't spend the couple of million extra for Dempsey, it looks to me like Rodgers got an advance of £20m from this summer's budget in January.

    That said, considering the new TV deal, the sales out (Carroll, Downing, Shelvey), the moving on of high earners (Reina, Carragher), and the growth in sponsorship revenue, you'd expect a big kitty this summer.


  • #1299
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    djPSB wrote: »
    Lads calm the fook down and watch this. Should ease the stress levels.


    Feel bad for Arsenal fans in some ways, I think they're good supporters going through a rough time. But I feel worse for us and I'd take their CL spot off them if I could. I wouldn't wish that crushing feeling of an opening day battering on any supporters.

    Well... One or two groups :)


  • #1300
    Paulegend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    It's a bit early to be lavishing words like great on our manager ffs. To become a great manager you need to be winning major honours, not fannying around in 7th spot.

    just saying hwat he has been doing has been great

    he got overpayed fringe players out of the club. he sold andy carroll and actually got 18 fricken million for him ffs. he brought in players like sturridge and coutinho. the players look happy and he has to be praised for his part in the suarez affair. so as a manager he has been great. he hasnt won anything yet and may not but he has been a great manager for us in his time here.

    dimatteo won the champions league but i wouldnt call him a great manager by any imagination.


  • #1301
    darced
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  • #1302
    djPSB
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    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    No, I would agree with you. No real justifiable reason to complain.

    No major reason to be jumping up an down with joy though.

    With the numbers that have left the club, with the wage bill being reduced and us being neutral on net spend, a Willian type signing is pretty much an expectation.

    It doesn't matter diddly squat how much we spend really.

    Once the deficiencies in the squad are adequately addressed.

    Attacking options of Sturridge, Willian, Suarez, Coutinho, Aspas, Borini, Sterling, Ibe is probably our best attack in years.

    Of course this all hinges on Willian actually signing.


  • #1303
    Ardent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭Ardent


    djPSB wrote: »
    Lads calm the fook down and watch this. Should ease the stress levels.


    I though he was going to start bawling crying there! :eek:


  • #1304
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    djPSB wrote: »
    If we keep Suarez and sign Willian, I don't think fans can have can have many complaints about this summers' business.

    I doubt many will be happy with just that tbh, infact I'd say most will be fairly annoyed if that was the case.

    A top CB is a must even before a wing forward imo. Shouldn't have to rely on Toure at his age.

    A CM is also a must if we want to compete for top 4/honours. Are Henderson/Allen good enough for 1st team action? Decent squad players that's all. Wouldn't get a sniff in Spurs/Arsenal/Chelsea + both Manchester midfields.

    A decent sub keeper should also be signed


  • #1305
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,700 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    The usual suspects will pull this up as absolute tripe. Most will ignore it as its positive delusion. That's the biggest issue with this thread IMO.

    A post like the above should be scoffed at by all.

    Better than reading your nonsense.

    All you do is call everyone delusional because they dont subscribe to your opinion.


  • #1306
    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Feel bad for Arsenal fans in some ways, I think they're good supporters going through a rough time. But I feel worse for us and I'd take their CL spot off them if I could. I wouldn't wish that crushing feeling of an opening day battering on any supporters.

    Well... One or two groups :)

    I thought it was bad form on the fans behalf yesterday when they booed Cazorla after the game.

    Would expect better.


  • #1307
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    djPSB wrote: »
    I thought it was bad form on the fans behalf yesterday when they booed Cazorla after the game.

    Would expect better.

    I dunno much about that, or the how many of them there's was, as my stream died before that, but yeah, bad form for the ones that did that. What a player.


  • #1308
    Strongbow10
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    djPSB wrote: »
    I thought it was bad form on the fans behalf yesterday when they booed Cazorla after the game.

    Would expect better.

    In a crowd of 60k every home game you are going to get a large degree of "whoppers" (I think they call them) who change their views with the wind.

    No chance any self respecting true Arsenal fan would have booed Cazorla


  • #1309
    Pedalstool
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    rarnes1 wrote: »
    I doubt many will be happy with just that tbh, infact I'd say most will be fairly annoyed if that was the case.

    A top CB is a must even before a wing forward imo. Shouldn't have to rely on Toure at his age.

    A CM is also a must if we want to compete for top 4/honours. Are Henderson/Allen good enough for 1st team action? Decent squad players that's all. Wouldn't get a sniff in Spurs/Arsenal/Chelsea + both Manchester midfields.

    A decent sub keeper should also be signed

    He's only 32, good grief I'm only 32 myself, practically a teenager!


  • #1310
    Raif Severance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Raif Severance


    Our Fans wants us to Overpay for Players?

    You would have thought after the Crapton we've spent acquiring Duds like Carroll, Downing, etc. that they would be more appreciative of the Club, being more Smart about our Money. I guess not!


  • #1311
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    Paulegend wrote: »
    just saying hwat he has been doing has been great

    he got overpayed fringe players out of the club. he sold andy carroll and actually got 18 fricken million for him ffs. he brought in players like sturridge and coutinho. the players look happy and he has to be praised for his part in the suarez affair. so as a manager he has been great. he hasnt won anything yet and may not but he has been a great manager for us in his time here.

    dimatteo won the champions league but i wouldnt call him a great manager by any imagination.

    A manager is ultimately judged on where the team finishes in the quest for honours, in addition to these days, qualifying for the CL.

    Judging a manager by selling fees for players and wages saved is ridiculous.
    the players look happy
    I could probably show plenty of footage of the players "looking happy" when Hodgson was here. Again fairly ridiculous.
    he brought in players like sturridge and coutinho
    Great signings thus far, no argument there. Feel the same about all the signings or just cherry picking?
    he has to be praised for his part in the suarez affair
    So far the club has handled it well. It's not confirmed whether he'll stay yet though so let's wait and see.


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  • #1312
    Knex*
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    Pedalstool wrote: »
    He's only 32, good grief I'm only 32 myself, practically a teenager!

    You're not in your thirties, you're in your thirteens. Its all perspective :D


  • #1313
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Raif Severance wrote: »
    Our Fans wants us to Overpay for Players?

    You would have thought after the Crapton we've spent acquiring Duds like Carroll, Downing, etc. that they would be more appreciative of the Club, being more Smart about our Money. I guess not!

    The general consesus on Willian would suggest theres a gulf of difference between blowing a stack on him, than Downing for instance.


  • #1314
    whatawaster
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    Mr Alan wrote: »
    The usual suspects will pull this up as absolute tripe. Most will ignore it as its positive delusion. That's the biggest issue with this thread IMO.

    A post like the above should be scoffed at by all.

    Some posters are just better ignored


  • #1315
    Nuri Sahin
    Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Raif Severance wrote: »
    Our Fans wants us to Overpay for Players?

    You would have thought after the Crapton we've spent acquiring Duds like Carroll, Downing, etc. that they would be more appreciative of the Club, being more Smart about our Money. I guess not!

    If we're overspending a bit on the right players, I don't see an issue so long as we sign them!

    Carroll was never the right player. Nor Downing.


  • #1316
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    whatawaster wrote: »
    Some posters are just better ignored

    and yet you still quoted Alan :)


  • #1317
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,700 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    30 plus million, yes, without doubt.

    15m or so, not overly. In the context of more players leaving than being signed or the wage bill continuing to be reduced, no.

    When we are spending 40/50/60m net, then it will be completely put to bed.

    Ya see this is whats wrong with the modern fan, you wouldnt be happy if we got Willian for 15 million but would be if we spent 30 million on him? That makes no sense. Would Coutinho be better player if he cost 30 million?

    We spent 35 million on Carroll and 20 million combined on sturridge and countinho. It doesnt take a genuis to see which is the better deal.

    Its about the right player not how much they cost.


  • #1318
    NukaCola
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    rarnes1 wrote: »
    and yet you still quoted Alan :)

    Twice!


  • #1319
    NukaCola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    Paulegend wrote: »
    just saying hwat he has been doing has been great

    he got overpayed fringe players out of the club. he sold andy carroll and actually got 18 fricken million for him ffs. he brought in players like sturridge and coutinho. the players look happy and he has to be praised for his part in the suarez affair. so as a manager he has been great. he hasnt won anything yet and may not but he has been a great manager for us in his time here.

    dimatteo won the champions league but i wouldnt call him a great manager by any imagination.

    Do you know what the word great means?


  • #1320
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    @whatawaster

    I kinda confused, where you having a go at Alan or Paulegend?

    I thought it was Alan hence my post but now I think it's the other chap


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  • #1321
    ThunbergsAreGo
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    rarnes1 wrote: »
    I doubt many will be happy with just that tbh, infact I'd say most will be fairly annoyed if that was the case.

    A top CB is a must even before a wing forward imo. Shouldn't have to rely on Toure at his age.

    A CM is also a must if we want to compete for top 4/honours. Are Henderson/Allen good enough for 1st team action? Decent squad players that's all. Wouldn't get a sniff in Spurs/Arsenal/Chelsea + both Manchester midfields.

    A decent sub keeper should also be signed

    Think they would for United, Cleverly and Giggs have been playing there They didnt do too badly last year


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