Do you support the Dublin Bus workers?

end of the road · 17-08-2013 03:00PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

I hope the useless bástards go on strike again and this time Leo immediatly deregulates all bus services, see how the lazy fukers like them apples!

and be left without a bus service for months while the de-regulation process takes place? no thanks, will keep dublin bus and their once in a blue moon strikes

Hootanany · 17-08-2013 04:37PM

No sack them and hire new drivers,we can't be held to ransom anymore.

end of the road · 17-08-2013 05:06PM

Hootanany wrote: »

No sack them and hire new drivers,we

would cost to much in social wellfare and training of new drivers, also we would be loosing years of experience.

Hootanany wrote: »

can't be held to ransom anymore.

nobody is being held to ransom, thats just something put out by those who are to lazy to look for other options while a strike is on for a couple of days

Dave! · 17-08-2013 05:24PM

end of the road wrote: »

would cost to much in social wellfare and training of new drivers, also we would be loosing years of experience.

nobody is being held to ransom, thats just something put out by those who are to lazy to look for other options while a strike is on for a couple of days

What do you propose an old age pensioner does while the bus drivers are throwing a hissy fit?

Closest LUAS to my area is 20 mins walk, or should they pay 20+ quid on a taxi? I'm sure they can go on the Internet and research an alternative option.

Dublin Bus's monopoly does indeed mean they get to hold alot of people to ransom.

paddy147 · 17-08-2013 05:26PM

Dave! wrote: »

What do you propose an old age pensioner does while the bus drivers are throwing a hissy fit?

Closest LUAS to my area is 20 mins walk, or should they pay 20+ quid on a taxi? I'm sure they can go on the Internet and research an alternative option.

The bus drivers are only doing what the OAPs will be doing in a few months time,when they have a tenner a week whipped off them by Miss Burton.

PROTEST...:D

Go on the bus drivers.:)

Carlos Orange · 17-08-2013 05:49PM

Hootanany wrote: »

I live within a twenty minute walk into the City centre €1.65 on the Bus:eek:

Should be 50c and more people would use DB?

You should invest in a pair of legs. Mine have saved me millions.

Hilly Bill · 17-08-2013 06:10PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

I dont want to pay twice once on the bus and again in my taxes just to keep some greedy semi-state layabouts nose in the trough.

You dont. Where abouts on your pay slip does it say that you have paid for the buses?

Hilly Bill · 17-08-2013 06:15PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

They are grossly overpaid, the fact that you rely on ficticious SW rates makes no difference.
Anyway I hope they do strike, because then they will find out how little they will actually get when deregulation happens and they have no jobs and no hope of getting a job becuase they are deemed unemployable due to their selfish actions.

Wont happen , but if it did then prices would go up not down and the moaning would continue on here

Hilly Bill · 17-08-2013 06:18PM

Hootanany wrote: »

No it's not its a rp off less than a 5 minute journey.

You wouldnt be happy unless its free.

bumper234 · 17-08-2013 06:19PM

Hilly Bill wrote: »

You wouldnt be happy unless its free.

You have to be a junkie for that to happen.

Hilly Bill · 17-08-2013 06:20PM

Dave! wrote: »

What do you propose an old age pensioner does while the bus drivers are throwing a hissy fit?

Closest LUAS to my area is 20 mins walk, or should they pay 20+ quid on a taxi? I'm sure they can go on the Internet and research an alternative option.

Dublin Bus's monopoly does indeed mean they get to hold alot of people to ransom.

Bingo?

Hilly Bill · 17-08-2013 06:23PM

bumper234 wrote: »

You have to be a junkie for that to happen.

And they still complain.

bumper234 · 17-08-2013 06:27PM

Hilly Bill wrote: »

And they still complain.

I hope they strike again. Town was lovely and peaceful and not a junkie in sight.

Hilly Bill · 17-08-2013 06:29PM

bumper234 wrote: »

I hope they strike again. Town was lovely and peaceful and not a junkie in sight.

It kept me busy

Skylinehead · 17-08-2013 07:24PM

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Bingo?

How do they get to bingo?

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 17-08-2013 08:36PM

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Wont happen , but if it did then prices would go up not down and the moaning would continue on here

Me hole they would, you sound like a spokesperson for Aer lingus when they tried to have Ryanair shut down in the 80's

hmmm · 17-08-2013 08:51PM

Hilly Bill wrote: »

You dont. Where abouts on your pay slip does it say that you have paid for the buses?

At the point where it says "Tax" which goes to the government which pays a subvention to Dublin bus.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 17-08-2013 08:56PM

hmmm wrote: »

At the point where it says "Tax" which goes to the government which pays a huge and wholly unnecessary subvention to Dublin bus for the benifit of nobody except Dublin Bus Staff.

FYP

paddy147 · 17-08-2013 09:48PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

How do they get to bingo?

Local community mini bus.

OR

Clutching/revving the fcuk out their new 2013 Nisan Micra going at 10kph down the road.

Claregirl · 18-08-2013 12:07AM

I'm almost looking forward to the inevitable day the trolls get their way and the whole country is privatised.

Will laugh my ar*e off when they'll be complaining about bus routes being axed as they're not profitable - timetables cut and fares go through the roof - no free travel for pensioners etc.

How anyone can state that the low wage bus drivers earn means they're vastly overpaid is beyond me and demonstrates the posters complete and utter ignorance.

Irish begrugery is alive and well on boards the sense I get from any of the threads that involve public / semi public employee's is I don't have it so you shouldn't either:rolleyes:

Anyway I'm for the bus drivers - best of luck to ye:D

dotsman · 18-08-2013 02:05AM

Claregirl wrote: »

I'm almost looking forward to the inevitable day the trolls get their way and the whole country is privatised.

Will laugh my ar*e off when they'll be complaining about bus routes being axed as they're not profitable - timetables cut and fares go through the roof - no free travel for pensioners etc.

How anyone can state that the low wage bus drivers earn means they're vastly overpaid is beyond me and demonstrates the posters complete and utter ignorance.

Irish begrugery is alive and well on boards the sense I get from any of the threads that involve public / semi public employee's is I don't have it so you shouldn't either:rolleyes:

Anyway I'm for the bus drivers - best of luck to ye:D

Firstly, privatisation does not necessarily mean the end to "unprofitable" bus routes. Subsidies would, no doubt, exist where necessary, but would be open to private companies to compete for them. Privatisation means competition and efficiency. It means that the companies that provide the best service (in terms of level of service, price etc) wins and companies that don't lose, rather than a wasteful inefficient state company operated by trade unions that we have today.

With regards the "low wage" that bus drivers earn - again, I ask for someone to provide a link to a reputable source detailing wages/salaries etc as there is a massive range in the figures that have been abndied around in this thread.

bumper234 · 18-08-2013 06:30AM

Claregirl wrote: »

I'm almost looking forward to the inevitable day the trolls get their way and the whole country is privatised.

Will laugh my ar*e off when they'll be complaining about bus routes being axed as they're not profitable - timetables cut and fares go through the roof - no free travel for pensioners etc.

How anyone can state that the low wage bus drivers earn means they're vastly overpaid is beyond me and demonstrates the posters complete and utter ignorance.

Irish begrugery is alive and well on boards the sense I get from any of the threads that involve public / semi public employee's is I don't have it so you shouldn't either:rolleyes:

Anyway I'm for the bus drivers - best of luck to ye:D

Yours would have been a decent post but your first line ruined it.

just because people.disagree with other peoples opinions does not make them trolls. Make no mistake Dublin bus drivers are very well paid and that's why they are striking because they don't want ANYONE touching their monopoly.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 18-08-2013 07:57AM

Anybody hear during the week that some Ryanair first officers and Captains are earning less than 30 grand a year. Considering the investment in training and the huge responsibility they have and the fact that Ryanair work them to the bone and to the very limit of legal working hours. A first officer in Ryanair could spend years trying to get to Captain and then get paid the same wage. Also the fact that other airlines stave off hiring Ryanair guys.

I think I'd drive a fcuking bus instead.

bumper234 · 18-08-2013 08:02AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Anybody hear during the week that some Ryanair first officers and Captains are earning less than 30 grand a year. Considering the investment in training and the huge responsibility they have and the fact that Ryanair work them to the bone and to the very limit of legal working hours. A first officer in Ryanair could spend years trying to get to Captain and then get paid the same wage. Also the fact that other airlines stave off hiring Ryanair guys.

I think I'd drive a fcuking a bus instead.

Ryanair pilots are on an hourly wage not a salary. If they work 40 hours they get paid for 40 hours at x rate if they work 80 hours they get the same rate. Dublin bus drivers work i think 40 hours then they are into overtime. Triple time for bank holidays, turning up bonuses, sick days etc (this is what i have read please feel free to refute this) so yes technically if a Ryanair pilot does not work many hours and a Dublin bus driver does with overtime he would get paid more.

Hootanany · 18-08-2013 08:33AM

Simple implement Ryanair's terms "get payed for the hours you work", its how most companies work.

bumper234 · 18-08-2013 08:45AM

Hootanany wrote: »

Simple implement Ryanair's terms "get payed for the hours you work", its how most companies work.

It would never happen because if you implement this in one semistate body you need to implement it in all of them. I do think DB needs to rethink the whole free travel pass scheme and also cuts need to be made to bonuses, overtime rates and sick days.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 18-08-2013 08:47AM

bumper234 wrote: »

It would never happen because if you implement this in one semistate body you need to implement it in all of them. I do think DB needs to rethink the whole free travel pass scheme and also cuts need to be made to bonuses, overtime rates and sick days.

That would be a good start!

mikemac1 · 18-08-2013 08:54AM

Seen a team on inspectors once in about 5 years.

And lots of battered cardboard passes confiscated and people put off the bus. The inspectors rang some hotline for DSP who would verify the pass.

Having inspectors costs money but if gets people paying maybe it will work.

But then the scum on the 40 had the last laugh as the bus was put out of action when the glass door was shattered as a boyo was put off the bus.

Over 800 a year for a tax saver ticket while I'm certain the 40 is full of fake passes. Some suckers pay while some pay nothing....

More for DB management to sort out if they're looking at lost revenue.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 18-08-2013 08:55AM

Glorified taxi drivers as O'Leary calls them. That's some way to instill confidence in your staff, a lot get stuck in the sh1thole and can't get a job elsewhere.

Ships 4th Officers (Juniors) working for Irish Ferries earn more per annum than a Ryanair pilot ffs.

markpb · 18-08-2013 09:00AM

cdebru wrote: »

That said, 91.50 for 30 days is just over 3euro a day for unlimited travel, which is a pretty fair price.

Let's knock that rubbish on the head right now! Here are the equivalent fares from other cities:

Edinburgh - £40
Los Angeles - $24
London - £53
Brussels - €50

I agree with you that this is partly due to the level of subvention but let's not pretend that DB fares are reasonable, they are not.

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