Bog cutting this week.

MadsL · 17-08-2013 04:21PM #1

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0817/468699-turf-cutting/

So not content with breaking EU law turfcutters are blockading the roads as well.

Frankly, given a well publicised plan to break the law next weekend, isn't it time that we stopped this nonsense and sent the IDF in to confiscate this machinery and end this embarrassment? I cannot fathom why it is being given the kid gloves treatment.

Nodin · 17-08-2013 04:24PM

MadsL wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0817/468699-turf-cutting/

So not content with breaking EU law turfcutters are blockading the roads as well.

Frankly, given a well publicised plan to break the law next weekend, isn't it time that we stopped this nonsense and sent the IDF in to confiscate this machinery and end this embarrassment? I cannot fathom why it is being given the kid gloves treatment.

No, they'll only use it to steal Palestinian turf.

Dostoevsky · 17-08-2013 04:25PM

MadsL wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0817/468699-turf-cutting/

So not content with breaking EU law turfcutters are blockading the roads as well.

Frankly, given a well publicised plan to break the law next weekend, isn't it time that we stopped this nonsense and sent the IDF in to confiscate this machinery and end this embarrassment? I cannot fathom why it is being given the kid gloves treatment.

Incredible that this nonsense is still going on. Ethically, the cutters and their massive modern machines protecting so-called "traditional" rights to use that machinery to cut endangered bogland haven't a leg to stand on here.

MadsL · 17-08-2013 04:26PM

Nodin wrote: »

No, they'll only use it to steal Palestinian turf.

Very good.

Perhaps we could borrow Mossad for a week though...

Nodin · 17-08-2013 04:28PM

MadsL wrote: »

Very good.

Perhaps we could borrow Mossad for a week though...

Mossod would be more qualified.

MadsL · 17-08-2013 04:28PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Incredible that this nonsense is still going on. Ethically, the cutters and their massive modern machines protecting so-called "traditional" rights to use that machinery to cut endangered bogland haven't a leg to stand on here.

What I find more incredible is Gardai sitting there and doing nothing.

Shell protesters acting within the law batoned to fu.ck and arrested. Turf cutters "observed".

WTF?

guinnessdrinker · 17-08-2013 04:29PM

Seems a bit over the top to send the Israeli army into the bogs!!!

MadsL · 17-08-2013 04:30PM

guinnessdrinker wrote: »

Seems a bit over the top to send the Israeli army into the bogs!!!

Yes, we have done that joke thanks.

MidlandsM · 17-08-2013 04:31PM

Like the traveller argument - "it's their culture"

MadsL · 17-08-2013 04:32PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

Like the traveller argument - "it's their culture"

Blockading roads?

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 17-08-2013 04:34PM

MadsL wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0817/468699-turf-cutting/

So not content with breaking EU law turfcutters are blockading the roads as well.

Frankly, given a well publicised plan to break the law next weekend, isn't it time that we stopped this nonsense and sent the IDF in to confiscate this machinery and end this embarrassment? I cannot fathom why it is being given the kid gloves treatment.

I'm not sure we can use the IDF like that and we shouldn't need to, just send in the Gardai and let them do their job.

MadsL · 17-08-2013 04:36PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

I'm not sure we can use the IDF like that and we shouldn't need to, just send in the Gardai and let them do their job.

But the Gardai are already there.

There would be a fair amount of firearms available in rural areas, could turn nasty...

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 17-08-2013 04:36PM

MadsL wrote: »

What I find more incredible is Gardai sitting there and doing nothing.

Shell protesters acting within the law batoned to fu.ck and arrested. Turf cutters "observed".

WTF?

Really, if you have evidence of that bring it to the GOC.

mikom · 17-08-2013 04:36PM

MadsL wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0817/468699-turf-cutting/

So not content with breaking EU law turfcutters are blockading the roads as well.

Frankly, given a well publicised plan to break the law next weekend, isn't it time that we stopped this nonsense and sent the IDF in to confiscate this machinery and end this embarrassment? I cannot fathom why it is being given the kid gloves treatment.

I've mine home anyways.
A shed full of it.

anncoates · 17-08-2013 04:39PM

If one of them was actually arrested, they'd probably briquette.

mikom · 17-08-2013 04:40PM

anncoates wrote: »

If one of them was actually arrested, they'd probably briquette.

Sods law.

MadsL · 17-08-2013 04:44PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

Really, if you have evidence of that bring it to the GOC.

Did you miss this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNM3aH323zw

A slightly different tactic by Gardai when a road is blocked huh?

Conmaicne Mara · 17-08-2013 04:44PM

Fair play to them.

Gatling · 17-08-2013 04:44PM

guinnessdrinker wrote: »

Seems a bit over the top to send the Israeli army into the bogs!!!

They need the target practice

anncoates · 17-08-2013 04:45PM

Would Board o' Moaners pun be disgracefully scraping the barrel?

MadsL · 17-08-2013 04:46PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Fair play to them.

For breaking the law? Why do you feel Irish taxpayers should have to pay for their machine harvested turf?

Dr Turk Turkelton · 17-08-2013 04:48PM

guinnessdrinker wrote: »

Seems a bit over the top to send the Israeli army into the bogs!!!

I'd say we wouldn't have any problems re-occupying our bogs from the land grabbers either!

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 17-08-2013 04:51PM

MadsL wrote: »

Did you miss this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNM3aH323zw

A slightly different tactic by Gardai when a road is blocked huh?

Gardai warned those involved in illegal activity to desist, when the warning was ignored they did there job.
Nothing in that video matches your earlier description of it.
They should do exactly the same with the turf warriors.

MadsL · 17-08-2013 04:55PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

Gardai warned those involved in illegal activity to desist, when the warning was ignored they did there job.
Nothing in that video matches your earlier description of it.
They should do exactly the same with the turf warriors.

Was really the point I was making...lets not derail into discussion of how legal the Gardai tactics were there. The bogcutters are breaking the law, and publicising the fact very loudly.

mikom · 17-08-2013 04:55PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK5791FtJ2g

end of the road · 17-08-2013 04:55PM

MadsL wrote: »

For breaking the law? Why do you feel Irish taxpayers should have to pay for their machine harvested turf?

its their job, as part of the big society

Jester252 · 17-08-2013 04:57PM

They where giving 10 years notice of the new law and they where/are been given new plot and/or money to compensate them. Not happy with that they are braking the law and costing the average Irish taxpayer more money along with blocking roads. Now its time to put the foot down and take the hard line with them. Jail and fines for all involved if that doesn't put them off remove any compensation that they will get/got. Too many people are costing Ireland money with their greed.
Granted now people who support them will more or likely pull a like about culture or bankers.

MadsL · 17-08-2013 04:58PM

end of the road wrote: »

its their job, as part of the big society

What about the big society we joined up to called the EU and the much bigger society called the Earth?

Will we just randomly choose not to protect one type of environment?

dxhound2005 · 17-08-2013 04:58PM

guinnessdrinker wrote: »

Seems a bit over the top to send the Israeli army into the bogs!!!

Am I the only one that thought it was Irish Defence Forces? They're on the list.

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/IDF

end of the road · 17-08-2013 04:59PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

Gardai warned those involved in illegal activity to desist

no they didn't

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

when the warning was ignored they did there job.

no, they violently brutalised those people.

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

They should do exactly the same with the turf warriors.

and when they do our boys on the bogs should do whatever needs to be done to both protect themselves from brutal violence and allow them to get on with cutting a vital source of cheep fuel

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 17-08-2013 04:59PM

MadsL wrote: »

Was really the point I was making...lets not derail into discussion of how legal the Gardai tactics were there. The bogcutters are breaking the law, and publicising the fact very loudly.

Agreed

Bog cutting this week.

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