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[Video] Fight in Newbridge - Ran Over with Van

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  • #32
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,502 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Where were/are the Gardai in all of this? I'm pretty sure if I tried to run someone down with my car in front of witnesses and video(both personal and no doubt CCTV) I'd be arrested in double quick time and marched away.

    Yes and if Wibbs tried to run me down I would be straight to the Guards giving a statement and willing to go to court to help in the prosecution. In many feud situations (if this is one) noone is willing to say anything which makes prosecutions much more difficult.

    Also there has been cuts in the Guards around Kildare. Speaking to a Guard (a few years ago now) it could be the case that one car is covering an area from Naas to Kildare Town thereby making any kind of response in force impossible


  • #33
    Charlie Babbitt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24 ✭Charlie Babbitt


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Where were/are the Gardai in all of this? I'm pretty sure if I tried to run someone down with my car in front of witnesses and video(both personal and no doubt CCTV) I'd be arrested in double quick time and marched away.

    Could just have been a busy time.

    Girl was raped locally here a few weeks back and the guy was discovered and subsequently chased by taxi drivers at rank near by and held down by them (on one of busiest streets in Dublin at 9pm at night) and yet, despite maybe a dozen calls they must have received from the taxi drivers and others, no Guards showed up for over a half hour.


  • #34
    Elbaston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    GTA newbridge





    Yes that ****er belongs in jail, dont want that on our streets.


  • #35
    photofinish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭photofinish


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    The only thing I have defended is PP, who have never claimed or asked to be held responsible for the behaviour of others.
    Show me where I defended the criminal or anti social behaviour of any group?


    It is the vibe people like yourself and others give off that causes the blood pressure in people like me to rise.
    You think we are all nasty racists and we should treat these people like equals.
    But being equal does not mean been held equally accountable for their actions.
    No pub will serve them left wingers call that racist.
    I call it common sense to protect their business.

    I will not treat them like everybody else or give them a chance because I have had my fingers burned too many times.


  • #36
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Boombastic wrote: »
    The work of Pavee Point is based on two key premises:

    Real improvement in Travellers' living circumstances and social situation requires the active involvement of Travellers themselves.

    Which is how they have a lot of work to do. For every action like the incident with the van sets back improvement to social situation of the average traveler. Look at some of the post in this thread and the attitude toward traveler.


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  • #37
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Which is how they have a lot of work to do. For every action like the incident with the van sets back improvement to social situation of the average traveler. Look at some of the post in this thread and the attitude toward traveler.

    Exactly and in order for attitudes to be changed, behaviour such as the above must be actively tackled from within the community.


    Just out of interest, are there any Gardai from the travelling community?


  • #38
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Which is how they have a lot of work to do. For every action like the incident with the van sets back improvement to social situation of the average traveler. Look at some of the post in this thread and the attitude toward traveler.

    Precisley, instead of condeming outright the criminal and lunatic behaviour of those involved, certain extremist posters would prefer to attack the one group who are at least trying to bring about change in the social,educational,health, and behaviour within the travelling community.
    No right thinking person can or should defend criminality or anti social behaviour, but that does not require them them to lash out at those who are at least trying to bring about change.


  • #39
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Exactly and in order for attitudes to be changed, behaviour such as the above must be actively tackled from within the community.


    Just out of interest, are there any Gardai from the travelling community?

    There is .


  • #40
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    mattjack wrote: »
    There is .

    That's good to hear! Do you know how many, roughly even?


  • #41
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    photofinish wrote: »
    It is the vibe people like yourself and others give off that causes the blood pressure in people like me to rise.
    You think we are all nasty racists and we should treat these people like equals.
    But being equal does not mean been held equally accountable for their actions.
    No pub will serve them left wingers call that racist.
    I call it common sense to protect their business.

    I will not treat them like everybody else or give them a chance because I have had my fingers burned too many times.

    You seriously need to chill dude.
    I never called you racist or inferred that you were a racist, thats just your own concience in all probability.
    Its illegal for a pub or any other service to refuse them, are you suggesting that one section of society be allowed to break the law because it suits them to?:eek:
    Finally, I'm a lot of things, but a left winger aint one of them bro!


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  • #42
    photofinish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭photofinish


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Its illegal for a pub or any other service to refuse them, are you suggesting that one section of society be allowed to break the law because it suits them to?:eek:
    Finally, I'm a lot of things, but a left winger aint one of them bro!

    Sorry for calling you a left winger.:D

    As regards pubs and hotels should they break the law or have their premises demolished?


  • #43
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    mattjack wrote: »
    There is .

    There are also teachers and elected councillors.
    All proof that PP is making some progress while it at the same time rightly and properly condems both criminality and anti social behaviour.


  • #44
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    photofinish wrote: »
    Sorry for calling you a left winger.:D

    As regards pubs and hotels should they break the law or have their premises demolished?

    seriously, I do sympathise with any business that is faced with hosting a large number of travellers, if only from the point of the fear they have that something will kick off.
    That is why so many of them actually close when there is a fair (like in Borris) or a funeral on.
    I'm not defending criminality, I am defending those like PP who are making the effort to bring about change.


  • #45
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Boombastic wrote: »
    That's good to hear! Do you know how many, roughly even?

    NO idea , a few apparently .I went to school with a guy whose a settled traveller , he lived in a halting site till about ten years of age , he's a Garda along with a brother of his he himself reckons there could be twenty or so but he says thats a just a guess. , he also reckons there's quite a few travellers who are/were soldiers


  • #46
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    There are also teachers and elected councillors.
    All proof that PP is making some progress while it at the same time rightly and properly condems both criminality and anti social behaviour.

    Indeed , my dad is a care home with some traveller staff , my mother is delighted with them.


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