Off-Topic Thread

Overclocking is horrible. There I said it!

Didn't take it too seriously had some programs running in the background.

The Results!

Noise levels are good. Inaudible over the case-fans and Haven/Valley music.
Probably just gonna run at stock for the foreseeable future. But now I've overclocked and I know the basics.

So which one of you fine folks with more money than sense is going to be getting one these for their 4 titan rigs when they come out?

http://anandtech.com/show/7051/computex-2013-asus-pq321-3840-x-2160-display-3799

NTMK wrote: »

to the guys that know about watercooling would a skinny(30mm) 240 and a thick(60-80mm) 240 rad be enough to cool a 3570k and 2 gtx 780s or will i need more

Yes.Temps would depend on OC's and what fans you would be using.

General rule of thumb is for some headroom have a 240 on each component.
So your okish.

Are you looking for silence or higher OC's or both?

You can google how much watts of heat the rads dissipate and compare it to watts of cpu and gpu's.

NTMK wrote: »

Silence when browsing, etc but i dont mind noise during gaming

i'll be ocing the cpu certainly but i decide by temps on the gpus/ how much they'll give me on air

Fans will be whater is best for the set up

Gentle typhoon's are the best imo for rads.
I use the 1450rpms ones on a fan controller.I run them at around 600rpms and there pretty much silent.

NTMK wrote: »

Silence when browsing, etc but i dont mind noise during gaming

i'll be ocing the cpu certainly but i decide by temps on the gpus/ how much they'll give me on air

Fans will be whater is best for the set up

With a decent quality fan set up over the rads it would be able to cool both gpu's and oc gpu on one loop easily.
I know it might make very little difference but you could also ad a 120 at the back of the case also to have a bit more cooling?
Get Gentle typhoon's 1450rpm fans and keep them around 900-1000 rpm for best mix for yourself though.

RE fans: I've come to realise that with GTs, you really just need to buy the speed you'll use, and run them at 12V. I've only been able to notice this recently being back at my parents' with my PC in a much quieter room, but none of the fans I have undervolt particularly well (with the exception of the Akasa Apaches, those things are nuts). I'll be buying 500RPM GTs next time around, for instance.

I can't run the GTs I have (1150RPM) at 5V because they get a mid-range tone, with the result that they're quieter at 7V, but there's still quite a bit of bearing noise.

Has anyone here tried company of hereos 2? I installed it on two of my pc's. One with two hd7970's in it and the other with a gtx 780 in it. I ran the benchmark in it and can get an average of 28fps on the main rig and 24 on the other with a min of 10fps and 1.99fps on both. I wouldnt be hugely put off if this game didnt look like it should have been made 5 years ago with crappy graphics . Its so poorly optimized even if I put on the lowest settings it doesnt really change anything.
I was a huge fan of the first and couldnt wait to play this. Would never again buy a game by relic or with sega's involvement. Cant believe they fecked this up so much

So disappointed last night,went to enter my Medal of Honor: Warfighter key into Origin only to cop on to the fact that it was a key for the original

nesf wrote: »

I get 33 Avg, 55 Max, 1.9 Min on a single 6970. Really, I haven't noticed any problems with framerate in game. And this would be because this is an RTS and fps above 20ish being fine for this genre. :P

High fps requirement, 40-50+ is only necessary with FPS or other action games. For most strategy games you need nothing close to that.

It is annoying though that I have a few thousand euro pc that cant play this on reasonable settings without silly fps especially when it looks ****. I remember playing the first when it came out on an average laptop and ran great.

nesf wrote: »

I'm assuming you're not running those 7970s in Crossfire and are running it off of one card (the application profiles were supposed to force this I think).


Most importantly, this is a CPU bound game not a GPU limited game for most realistic systems. Throwing more GPU power at it gives very poor returns. If you've a Core 2 Duo it doesn't matter if you've 2 x 7990s in there, it's still going to run worse than my i5 system. :P

I have a 3820 which is similar to a 3770k overclocked to 5ghz.

nesf wrote: »

Like most games it doesn't use more than four cores. Hmm. I don't know what's screwing things up for you. Try disabling Crossfire if the application profile isn't already doing it. After that, I don't know to be honest. There occasionally are games that are slower on say a 4Ghz i7 than an equivalent generation 4Ghz i5, but I'm running my CPU at stock at the moment so...

I just switched it to single screen mode and maxed everything out and the fps increased alot but still not to an acceptable min frame rate. I've got min 18.76, max 45.54, avg 32.81 but I just realised as i'm typing this I reset my cmos the other day and my cpu is now at stock so hopefully when overclock it again it will go above 25fps as a minimum. (Graphics still look **** though.)

Edit:
At 5ghz I get min 15.87, max 40.24 and min 29.20 WTF????

deceit wrote: »

I just switched it to single screen mode and maxed everything out and the fps increased alot but still not to an acceptable min frame rate. I've got min 18.76, max 45.54, avg 32.81 but I just realised as i'm typing this I reset my cmos the other day and my cpu is now at stock so hopefully when overclock it again it will go above 25fps as a minimum. (Graphics still look **** though.)

Edit:
At 5ghz I get min 15.87, max 40.24 and min 29.20 WTF????

32 avg is fine for an RTS. 29.2 is too. Really, these games are not designed to run at 60+ fps unlike Call of Duty and other FPS/Action games where it's useful to have a really high fps.

60 fps is just about possible right now with a bloody GTX Titan and an i7 4770k running at 3.5 GHz at medium bloody quality. On maximum quality such a rig tops out around 40 fps. This is not a game that's going to go much over 35fps average on your rig at high/maximum quality.

nesf wrote: »

It does support them in that the SLI/Crossfire profile for the game switches SLI/Crossfire off while the game is running...

:P

deceit wrote: »

Thats what i'm getting at, if it can only run at them settings on that type of pc it should at least look awesome as that would be a really high spec pc..

It does look awesome. The particle effects and physics modelling are very nicely done (and are what's killing performance so much).

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I was shocked at how poorly COH2 runs, given that it actually doesn't look a whole world better than COH on first impressions - I do appreciate the fact that it is a better looking game with a lot more going on in general, but the price paid for the visuals is completely disproportionate. Agree entirely though about the framerate being somewhat of a non issue in the genre, but its still frustrating to see such lowly performance when other visually intensive and striking games run like butter on the same machine. I was shocked with how bad it ran on an Fx4100 and a 7850, the performance test ran terribly. It also kills my laptop, even though it plays other games like BF3 perfectly!

A Fx4100 would actually be a chip I'd expect to not do so well with a CPU choked title. For the price it's good but it's a bit less powerful than a dual core i3 in real world terms even in applications that can use all of its four cores (it is cheaper though). You wouldn't expect it to stand up to the Intel Quad cores (and depressingly you wouldn't expect the AMD 8 cores to have their cores being utilised by almost every game out there at the moment).


They basically went all-in on giving us a realistic Russian Winter. The issue is all that processing time is being tied up in things that people aren't noticing or caring to notice (e.g. troops moving through snow has never been represented this well in an RTS before or anywhere close but most people don't seem to notice that). The price has been a game that really isn't going to bring many systems to their knees on 1080p if you turn all the details up. This is ok if people see this for what it is (not a game that's supposed to show off your expensive PC) but very bad if it isn't.