Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

Kirby · 16-08-2013 11:41AM

I read somewhere last week that you guys are a banker for champions league qualification anyway because Fenerbache may get thrown out? Has to make you feel better. Especially remembering that Udinese scare.

Pudders · 16-08-2013 11:42AM

This all smacks of desperation. If believing the optimists, Wenger has got his players identified and lined up. If so why suddenly bid for Gustavo.

My season ticket will still be renewed next year but they really are taking the piss out of the fans.

We MAY get 4th again but this was the year if we had spent big (and we have the cash to do so ) we could have challenged for the title.

Soups123 · 16-08-2013 11:45AM

L'prof wrote: »

Not yet. He says he wants to add 2/3 players, maybe more, and I believe him. He says he wants to add quality players and I believe him. If he fails to sign at least 2 players who can make a real contribution then maybe we can ask that question then. It's still to early right now.

I would be happier if he said 'we will' or 'I need', he has been 'wanting' special talent for years now

pandaboy · 16-08-2013 12:01PM

Kirby wrote: »

I read somewhere last week that you guys are a banker for champions league qualification anyway because Fenerbache may get thrown out? Has to make you feel better. Especially remembering that Udinese scare.

If Fenerbahce win and then get ejected from the competition, Arsenal still would not qualify. UEFA semantics and so forth. Read about it on the Arseblog a couple of weeks back.

Regardless, we should be looking at winning both legs. Our current squad is strong enough to do so (by the time the game comes around).

Wonder will we have a smirky Wenger or a cross Wenger at today's press conference when pressed on transfer targets.

Tomorrow's game looks tougher by the minute, yet I think it's going to be exciting. Villa have played well as a team in their pre-season. Arsenal will have to score right away, play for a strong win. Walcott to get the first goal I'd say. (For Arsenal)

batistuta9 · 16-08-2013 12:11PM

did anyone watch the press conf.?

Journo: are the club still working on a new bid of luis saurez, is that accurate?
wenger: look, I don't want to come out on specific names because that would not be right, usually in the press you're well informed
room: laughter from journos, wenger smirking, hearty laughter from journos
J: is wayne rooney still an active target
W:there again i can just repeat the same sentence
r: wenger smiling, journos laugh

sign all the dislikeables

danlen · 16-08-2013 12:20PM

L'prof wrote: »

Not yet. He says he wants to add 2/3 players, maybe more, and I believe him. He says he wants to add quality players and I believe him. If he fails to sign at least 2 players who can make a real contribution then maybe we can ask that question then. It's still to early right now.

Agreed.

cson · 16-08-2013 12:22PM

FearDark wrote: »

Is it time to put Wenger out to pasture?

I've been a staunch AW defender over the years and have been vocal in saying that he deserves a shot at spending the money when it came after guiding us through the difficult years. I'm absolutely astounded after the fanfare of late May/early June (where it was professed to one and all that we had turned a corner and could spend big) that quite simply nothing has happened.

As things stand we're in for another Groundhog Day 4th place season at best. Frisbee called it a few pages back; in any other workplace this sort of criminal negligence, and what appears to be genuine incompetence when it comes to transfers, would see you sacked. And tbqh that's exactly what should happen to both AW and IG if we endure another season like the last 3/4. The fans are rightly sick of it; we're paying Michelin Star prices to eat in a ****ing Bistro.

emergingstar · 16-08-2013 12:23PM

I think we will sign Rooney or Suarez
I think we will add another 1 or 2 players of quality with them

I think he is playing with fire by trusting a paper thin squad to guide us through the opening of the season

I also think the majority of posters here are nuts

gosplan · 16-08-2013 12:31PM

In fairness ... and I'm leaving town after this one.

If Suarez is the only real nailed on first team player we sign, that'd be OK with me, as long as the players we sign as backup to Arteta and Mert are young with bags of potential.

Given the start of the summer, if you said Suarez, say Ginter(young, hailed as future German star & partner to hummels etc) and an equivalent midfielder, I would have said 'deal'.

You can understand there being no hurry to sign Suarez, that's fair enough.

Where Wenger has really, really mistepped is in not getting backup for Arteta or Mert. They're the two players we can't afford to be without and his gamble didn't hold out. Or at least, it might not unless Jack/Rambo can do a good job there.

The problem we all have ...and this is why everyone's going so batsh1t mental ... is we don't know what Wenger is gambling with. Clearly he's taking a risk by waiting so late but why?

If for example it came out that Bender was joining but wouldn't leave Bayer Lever to join Arsenal until we'd qualified for the CL, I'd be completely happy with Wenger's judgement on that. Or if we got Fellaini (who I don't really want but if Wenger were in for him, I'd trust his judgement). You know, maybe then there could be a reason for leaving it so late.

However, as people have mentioned, if we end up with Flamini, then it's just incompetence. Regardless of what his original plans might have been, the way it would have played out means he would have done a really poor job.

So for me, there's still hope here that the window could be good overall. Fans are in panic mode and the club's given them nothing to be positive about so I'm not surprised people are losing the plot.

Still, I'll wait for the end of the window and the reasons why. Probably just in foolish hope rather than anything else.

(but I want Suarez ... two others ... and a damn good explanation!!!)

batistuta9 · 16-08-2013 12:31PM

cson wrote: »

I've been a staunch AW defender over the years and have been vocal in saying that he deserves a shot at spending the money when it came after guiding us through the difficult years. I'm absolutely astounded after the fanfare of late May/early June (where it was professed to one and all that we had turned a corner and could spend big) that quite simply nothing has happened.

As things stand we're in for another Groundhog Day 4th place season at best. Frisbee called it a few pages back; in any other workplace this sort of criminal negligence, and what appears to be genuine incompetence when it comes to transfers, would see you sacked. And tbqh that's exactly what should happen to both AW and IG if we endure another season like the last 3/4. The fans are rightly sick of it; we're paying Michelin Star prices to eat in a ****ing Bistro.

watch wenger reaction to the question/statement "there's always been this talk of you've got money to spend this year" in the press conf.

Drexel · 16-08-2013 12:34PM

Have to say im very disappointed that we havent even brought in some backup players before the season starts. Didnt think we'd have any superstars by now but really thought we have at least one player brought in.

Wenger is taking a risk with this squad making it through the start of the season ok

Mickeroo · 16-08-2013 12:47PM

batistuta9 wrote: »

watch wenger reaction to the question/statement "there's always been this talk of you've got money to spend this year" in the press conf.

How did he react?

Alfred Borden · 16-08-2013 01:06PM

Suarez apologized

overpronator · 16-08-2013 01:08PM

Raf32 wrote: »

Suarez apologized

Source? If its true you have to tip the cap to Liverpool, in fairness they will probably lose him next year but didn't take his sh1t and held on to him. That kind of hard nosed approach is what needed from Arsenal on and off the pitch.

Alfred Borden · 16-08-2013 01:14PM

overpronator wrote: »

Source? If its true you have to tip the cap to Liverpool, in fairness they will probably lose him next year but didn't take his sh1t and held on to him. That kind of hard nosed approach is what needed from Arsenal on and off the pitch.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8873198/

Totally agreed, we are too much of pushovers.

Alfred Borden · 16-08-2013 01:14PM

Theres barely any targets that we are linked with that excite me at this state, absolute joke of a club and how its run, both board and Wenger.

Drexel · 16-08-2013 01:14PM

Raf32 wrote: »

Suarez apologized

Bet he didnt. Its all just twitter. There was a pic released that showed him (maybe) training with the first team. Thats it

Gringo180 · 16-08-2013 01:17PM

There in for Willian as well. Them along with Spurs have strengthened very well to be fair to them.

Alfred Borden · 16-08-2013 01:17PM

jonny666 wrote: »

Bet he didnt. Its all just twitter. There was a pic released that showed him (maybe) training with the first team. Thats it

Its in the link top of the page, scratch another one the list.

greendom · 16-08-2013 01:17PM

Raf32 wrote: »

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8873198/

Totally agreed, we are too much of pushovers.

He has 3 years on his contract. That is a massive help in not being a pushover.

Drexel · 16-08-2013 01:18PM

Raf32 wrote: »

Its in the link top of the page, scratch another one the list.

Read what the link said. Still dont think he has apologised.

Alfred Borden · 16-08-2013 01:18PM

greendom wrote: »

He has 3 years on his contract. That is a massive help in not being a pushover.

I know regarding Nasri and RVP, but Fabregas did the same came out wanted to leave and us being the nice gentlemen club we are agreed to let him go home! Taking installments as well which still arent paid, and then sold one our best midfielders the year after with them owing us millions.

Alfred Borden · 16-08-2013 01:21PM

jonny666 wrote: »

Read what the link said. Still dont think he has apologised.

Forward Luis Suarez trained with Liverpool's first-team squad on Friday according to Sky Sports sources, after apologising to his team mates for his conduct this summer.

Pretty clear I think.

emergingstar · 16-08-2013 01:23PM

overpronator wrote: »

Source? If its true you have to tip the cap to Liverpool, in fairness they will probably lose him next year but didn't take his sh1t and held on to him. That kind of hard nosed approach is what needed from Arsenal on and off the pitch.

We done the same with cesc

Drexel · 16-08-2013 01:23PM

Raf32 wrote: »

Pretty clear I think.

Not really. Its SSN!! No quotes no nothin.

bad2dabone · 16-08-2013 01:26PM

how's that Rooney chase coming along Arsene?

darego · 16-08-2013 01:26PM

jonny666 wrote: »

Not really. Its SSN!! No quotes no nothin.

rodgers said yesterday suarez won't be training with the first team until he apologized. today he is back training with the first team so it's a bit obvious he made some apologies to someone

there is no need for rodgers to put him back into first team training unless he apologized, since he can not play for another 6 games

Drexel · 16-08-2013 01:31PM

darego wrote: »

rodgers said yesterday suarez won't be training with the first team until he apologized. today he is back training with the first team so it's a bit obvious he made some apologies to someone

there is no need for rodgers to put him back into first team training unless he apologized, since he can not play for another 6 games

Bargaining technique!!

*crosses fingers!!

darego · 16-08-2013 01:32PM

hopefully

Alfred Borden · 16-08-2013 01:33PM

Wenger seemingly rules out signing attacking midfielder: "We have Wilshere, Chamberlain, Cazorla, Rosicky, Podolski. We have no need."

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