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Important issues you have changed your mind on

  • 07-08-2013 11:38AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭


    I used to be very pro abortion, now I can't decide (obviously would allow it in many cases)

    Have you come round to a new perspective on any major issues?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    When I was young and naïve I considered voting for the greens :mad:

    Being a young student of environmental science at the time their taglines seemed to fit. Then I realised what their policies were like. Thankfully I never actually voted for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Opposite, was brainwashed by a religious education to believe abortion was always wrong. Now I'm very prochoice. I've become even more prochoice since having children.


    I also now think Maggie Thatcher wasn't all bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Religion is the obvious one, and I've flip-flopped on abortion once or twice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    I had a U-Turn on my spiritual beliefs. Considered myself Atheist but then had a change of heart. We're only human, as we view the world there is nothing that stands out to make me think 'Yeah there definitely is something more' but it would be arrogant position to take(not that it matters, and it could be perceived as arrogant to think that we(humans, animals) go somewhere once our physical bodies cease to function.

    Abortion-I think saying someone is pro abortion sounds so wrong, as if you take joy in the abortions(I actually think some people are more preoccupied with the idea of being for it than have any care for the people it effects) Anyway its not as clear cut as the pro side pretend it to be. Life is the greatest gift you can get, I'd rather have lived even if I do have to be born into a broken home. Life is a lesson, and many people born into such homes have gone onto having successful and happy lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭KingOfFairview


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    I had a U-Turn on my spiritual beliefs. Considered myself Atheist but then had a change of heart.

    Abortion-I think saying someone is pro abortion sounds so wrong, as if you take joy in the abortions(I actually think some people are more preoccupied with the idea of being for it than have any care for the people it effects) Anyway its not as clear cut as the pro side pretend it to be. Life is the greatest gift you can get, I'd rather have lived even if I do have to be born into a broken home. Life is a lesson, and many people born into such homes have gone onto having successful and happy lives.

    This thread ain't for debating the merits of abortion


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    This thread ain't for debating the merits of abortion

    Had to state why I've had a change of heart, believe me I'm not particularly passionate about the subject.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭dharma200


    I used to be very pro abortion, now I can't decide (obviously would allow it in many cases)

    Have you come round to a new perspective on any major issues?

    eh, just wondering on which cases YOU would allow it.. lol.. like perhaps the only case to not allow it is with yourself if you dont require one, and allow other women to choose. Seems reasonable.

    I have come round to the fact that whatever I beleive, i shouldnt make other people live to my will... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    This thread ain't for debating the merits of abortion

    You chose the wrong example in your initial post so OP!!

    I used to be very pro nationalised services/state assets e.g. public transport, energy, waste.

    I felt that in any privatisation, only the end user/consumer would lose out.

    I no longer think that way and now think that for the vast majortiy of industries, products and services, the private sector performs much, much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭RikkFlair


    I was Oasis, then I was Blur.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    RikkFlair wrote: »
    I was Oasis, then I was Blur.

    Me too. I now look back on those Oasis days with anger, despite advice not to.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 sugar_fiend


    became a full blown atheist around six years ago , never missed mass until I was twenty one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    I used to like Diagio beers until I educated myself & became a craft beer tosser snob :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    Oh another thing, I was very pro EU(federal EU type) now I'm just ambivalent to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Murt10


    Religion, smoking in the workplace, plastic bags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    I have been a socialist all my life and I used to regard rich people and high earners as the 'enemy'. I now realise that it is much better for the economy if there are lots of rich people. Provided the tax system is fair and proper taxes are being paid, the more rich people there are the less everyone else has to pay in tax. As well as that, rich people tend to employ other people, e.g. house cleaning and garden/house maintenance. They also tend to spend money in restaurants and hotels and buy luxury goods thereby keeping others in employment.
    I am not rich and I do not want to be as long as I have sufficient means to have modest and reasonable lifestyle. I do not envy people who have loads of dosh. If there were more of them, spending more money we would all be better off.
    As that famous philosopher Ben Dunne once said: "Money is like manure, it's no good unless you spread it around".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Henlars67


    Always considered myself catholic without giving it much thought, until about 5 or 6 years ago.

    Went to mass about once a month.

    Then I actually started to question everything and realised that the teachings of the catholic church on a lot of things could hardly be any more at odds to my own views. I began to doubt the existence of god, but one thing I was certain of, is that if there was a god, being a catholic was not the way to him.

    Over the following few months I came to the realisation that to believe in the existence of a god is utterly ridiculous.

    I now detest all organised religion, it makes my skin crawl.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 sugar_fiend


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I have been a socialist all my life and I used to regard rich people and high earners as the 'enemy'. I now realise that it is much better for the economy if there are lots of rich people. Provided the tax system is fair and proper taxes are being paid, the more rich people there are the less everyone else has to pay in tax. As well as that, rich people tend to employ other people, e.g. house cleaning and garden/house maintenance. They also tend to spend money in restaurants and hotels and buy luxury goods thereby keeping others in employment.
    I am not rich and I do not want to be as long as I have sufficient means to have modest and reasonable lifestyle. I do not envy people who have loads of dosh. If there were more of them, spending more money we would all be better off.
    As that famous philosopher Ben Dunne once said: "Money is like manure, it's no good unless you spread it around".


    I was never a socialist but then again I never went to college and so dodged the overwhelming Marxism which permeates third level in this country


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭xXxkorixXx


    i used to think leo varadker was a radical now he is just the 'minister for ribbon cutting and everything else bar his own brief'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭bradolf pittler


    I seriously considered supporting Liverpool at one stage.Dodged a bullet there....phewwwww


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    Religion, for sure. Several times, back and forth. :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    became a full blown atheist around six years ago , never missed mass until I was twenty one

    I'm kind of the opposite. Went to mass every week until I was 15, stopped going for 5 years. Now I'm back, more religious than ever.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 sugar_fiend


    xXxkorixXx wrote: »
    i used to think leo varadker was a radical now he is just the 'minister for ribbon cutting and everything else bar his own brief'


    I used to think he might be the first proper conservative in dail eireann


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 sugar_fiend


    I'm kind of the opposite. Went to mass every week until I was 15, stopped going for 5 years. Now I'm back, more religious than ever.


    can never understand those who claim they went from being atheist to religious , I doubt they were ever atheist at all , for me their could never be a going back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    I was never a socialist but then again I never went to college and so dodged the overwhelming Marxism which permeates third level in this country
    I never went to college either but it is a strange phenomenon that most of the far-lefties who inhabit our third-level educational establishments soon morph into arch-conservatives after a couple of years in the 'real world'.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    I used to hate the new boards front page,but I've grown to accept it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    I used to think getting off my tits was the only way to enjoy a weekend. These days a nice cup of tea and a good sh¡te (ideally not at the same time) sound like more fun most of the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    can never understand those who claim they went from being atheist to religious , I doubt they were ever atheist at all , for me their could never be a going back

    I wasn't athiest, just stopped going to mass!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    I used to be very pro abortion, now I can't decide (obviously would allow it in many cases)

    Have you come round to a new perspective on any major issues?

    I find many people pro abortion believe a mans right to choose ends at conception but a womans does not. I dont think either should be forced into parenthood but many have double standards.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 sugar_fiend


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I never went to college either but it is a strange phenomenon that most of the far-lefties who inhabit our third-level educational establishments soon morph into arch-conservatives after a couple of years in the 'real world'.


    they realise two things

    1 . idealogy doesn't put food on the table


    2. their trendy lefty over paid lecturers were windbags


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    I used to think getting off my tits was the only way to enjoy a weekend. These days a nice cup of tea and a good sh¡te (ideally not at the same time) sound like more fun most of the time.

    Couldn't agree more. The most fun I've had outside the bedroom in the last 6 months involved pictionary and a documentary about chess :o


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