Important issues you have changed your mind on

KingOfFairview

I used to be very pro abortion, now I can't decide (obviously would allow it in many cases)

Have you come round to a new perspective on any major issues?

tin79

When I was young and naïve I considered voting for the greens :mad:

Being a young student of environmental science at the time their taglines seemed to fit. Then I realised what their policies were like. Thankfully I never actually voted for them.

lazygal

Opposite, was brainwashed by a religious education to believe abortion was always wrong. Now I'm very prochoice. I've become even more prochoice since having children.


I also now think Maggie Thatcher wasn't all bad.

Seachmall

Religion is the obvious one, and I've flip-flopped on abortion once or twice.

EdenHazard

I had a U-Turn on my spiritual beliefs. Considered myself Atheist but then had a change of heart. We're only human, as we view the world there is nothing that stands out to make me think 'Yeah there definitely is something more' but it would be arrogant position to take(not that it matters, and it could be perceived as arrogant to think that we(humans, animals) go somewhere once our physical bodies cease to function.

Abortion-I think saying someone is pro abortion sounds so wrong, as if you take joy in the abortions(I actually think some people are more preoccupied with the idea of being for it than have any care for the people it effects) Anyway its not as clear cut as the pro side pretend it to be. Life is the greatest gift you can get, I'd rather have lived even if I do have to be born into a broken home. Life is a lesson, and many people born into such homes have gone onto having successful and happy lives.

KingOfFairview

EdenHazard wrote: »

I had a U-Turn on my spiritual beliefs. Considered myself Atheist but then had a change of heart.

Abortion-I think saying someone is pro abortion sounds so wrong, as if you take joy in the abortions(I actually think some people are more preoccupied with the idea of being for it than have any care for the people it effects) Anyway its not as clear cut as the pro side pretend it to be. Life is the greatest gift you can get, I'd rather have lived even if I do have to be born into a broken home. Life is a lesson, and many people born into such homes have gone onto having successful and happy lives.

This thread ain't for debating the merits of abortion

EdenHazard

KingOfFairview wrote: »

This thread ain't for debating the merits of abortion

Had to state why I've had a change of heart, believe me I'm not particularly passionate about the subject.

dharma200

KingOfFairview wrote: »

I used to be very pro abortion, now I can't decide (obviously would allow it in many cases)

Have you come round to a new perspective on any major issues?

eh, just wondering on which cases YOU would allow it.. lol.. like perhaps the only case to not allow it is with yourself if you dont require one, and allow other women to choose. Seems reasonable.

I have come round to the fact that whatever I beleive, i shouldnt make other people live to my will...

I Heart Internet

KingOfFairview wrote: »

This thread ain't for debating the merits of abortion

You chose the wrong example in your initial post so OP!!

I used to be very pro nationalised services/state assets e.g. public transport, energy, waste.

I felt that in any privatisation, only the end user/consumer would lose out.

I no longer think that way and now think that for the vast majortiy of industries, products and services, the private sector performs much, much better.

RikkFlair

I was Oasis, then I was Blur.

I Heart Internet

RikkFlair wrote: »

I was Oasis, then I was Blur.

Me too. I now look back on those Oasis days with anger, despite advice not to.

sugar_fiend

became a full blown atheist around six years ago , never missed mass until I was twenty one

MonstaMash

I used to like Diagio beers until I educated myself & became a craft beer tosser snob

EdenHazard

Oh another thing, I was very pro EU(federal EU type) now I'm just ambivalent to it.

Murt10

Religion, smoking in the workplace, plastic bags.

Roger_007

I have been a socialist all my life and I used to regard rich people and high earners as the 'enemy'. I now realise that it is much better for the economy if there are lots of rich people. Provided the tax system is fair and proper taxes are being paid, the more rich people there are the less everyone else has to pay in tax. As well as that, rich people tend to employ other people, e.g. house cleaning and garden/house maintenance. They also tend to spend money in restaurants and hotels and buy luxury goods thereby keeping others in employment.
I am not rich and I do not want to be as long as I have sufficient means to have modest and reasonable lifestyle. I do not envy people who have loads of dosh. If there were more of them, spending more money we would all be better off.
As that famous philosopher Ben Dunne once said: "Money is like manure, it's no good unless you spread it around".

Henlars67

Always considered myself catholic without giving it much thought, until about 5 or 6 years ago.

Went to mass about once a month.

Then I actually started to question everything and realised that the teachings of the catholic church on a lot of things could hardly be any more at odds to my own views. I began to doubt the existence of god, but one thing I was certain of, is that if there was a god, being a catholic was not the way to him.

Over the following few months I came to the realisation that to believe in the existence of a god is utterly ridiculous.

I now detest all organised religion, it makes my skin crawl.

sugar_fiend

Roger_007 wrote: »

I have been a socialist all my life and I used to regard rich people and high earners as the 'enemy'. I now realise that it is much better for the economy if there are lots of rich people. Provided the tax system is fair and proper taxes are being paid, the more rich people there are the less everyone else has to pay in tax. As well as that, rich people tend to employ other people, e.g. house cleaning and garden/house maintenance. They also tend to spend money in restaurants and hotels and buy luxury goods thereby keeping others in employment.
I am not rich and I do not want to be as long as I have sufficient means to have modest and reasonable lifestyle. I do not envy people who have loads of dosh. If there were more of them, spending more money we would all be better off.
As that famous philosopher Ben Dunne once said: "Money is like manure, it's no good unless you spread it around".

I was never a socialist but then again I never went to college and so dodged the overwhelming Marxism which permeates third level in this country

xXxkorixXx

i used to think leo varadker was a radical now he is just the 'minister for ribbon cutting and everything else bar his own brief'

bradolf pittler

I seriously considered supporting Liverpool at one stage.Dodged a bullet there....phewwwww

roast

Religion, for sure. Several times, back and forth. :pac:

Ihatecuddles-old

sugar_fiend wrote: »

became a full blown atheist around six years ago , never missed mass until I was twenty one

I'm kind of the opposite. Went to mass every week until I was 15, stopped going for 5 years. Now I'm back, more religious than ever.

sugar_fiend

xXxkorixXx wrote: »

i used to think leo varadker was a radical now he is just the 'minister for ribbon cutting and everything else bar his own brief'

I used to think he might be the first proper conservative in dail eireann

sugar_fiend

Ihatecuddles wrote: »

I'm kind of the opposite. Went to mass every week until I was 15, stopped going for 5 years. Now I'm back, more religious than ever.

can never understand those who claim they went from being atheist to religious , I doubt they were ever atheist at all , for me their could never be a going back

Roger_007

sugar_fiend wrote: »

I was never a socialist but then again I never went to college and so dodged the overwhelming Marxism which permeates third level in this country

I never went to college either but it is a strange phenomenon that most of the far-lefties who inhabit our third-level educational establishments soon morph into arch-conservatives after a couple of years in the 'real world'.

Celly Smunt

I used to hate the new boards front page,but I've grown to accept it.

kunst nugget

I used to think getting off my tits was the only way to enjoy a weekend. These days a nice cup of tea and a good sh¡te (ideally not at the same time) sound like more fun most of the time.

Ihatecuddles-old

sugar_fiend wrote: »

can never understand those who claim they went from being atheist to religious , I doubt they were ever atheist at all , for me their could never be a going back

I wasn't athiest, just stopped going to mass!

Potatoeman

KingOfFairview wrote: »

I used to be very pro abortion, now I can't decide (obviously would allow it in many cases)

Have you come round to a new perspective on any major issues?

I find many people pro abortion believe a mans right to choose ends at conception but a womans does not. I dont think either should be forced into parenthood but many have double standards.

sugar_fiend

Roger_007 wrote: »

I never went to college either but it is a strange phenomenon that most of the far-lefties who inhabit our third-level educational establishments soon morph into arch-conservatives after a couple of years in the 'real world'.

they realise two things

1 . idealogy doesn't put food on the table


2. their trendy lefty over paid lecturers were windbags

Ihatecuddles-old

kunst nugget wrote: »

I used to think getting off my tits was the only way to enjoy a weekend. These days a nice cup of tea and a good sh¡te (ideally not at the same time) sound like more fun most of the time.

Couldn't agree more. The most fun I've had outside the bedroom in the last 6 months involved pictionary and a documentary about chess

I Heart Internet

sugar_fiend wrote: »

can never understand those who claim they went from being atheist to religious , I doubt they were ever atheist at all , for me their could never be a going back

It's being human. I recall that British triple-jump star was a very evangelical christian when competting but now says he is an atheist/agnostic (sorry not sure which). People think different things about these things as they go through life.

I love being a catholic and things like going to mass make me happy.

I like what the (atheist) hypnotist Derren Brown says - (something like) "people should simple tell the truth - 'believing in certain religions/religious ideas just makes me happy.'"

sugar_fiend

Potatoeman wrote: »

I find many people pro abortion believe a mans right to choose ends at conception but a womans does not. I dont think either should be forced into parenthood but many have double standards.

the whole " let women do what they want with their own bodies " is a bit of a canard aswell

women have hands , can they strangle anyone they like with those hands ?

lots of silly language surrounds that whole can of worms

The Royal Scam

I used to wipe my arse standing up, now I'm a sit down and wipe .

EdenHazard

I used to hate 'social drinking' i.e sitting down with a few bottles but recently its grown on me. I was all about nights out, pullin' but out of nowhere I just like the idea of a casual drink. What's happening?

kunst nugget

sugar_fiend wrote: »

I was never a socialist but then again I never went to college and so dodged the overwhelming Marxism which permeates third level in this country

It does? I went to college as did most of my friends and while some to most were probably left leaning to some degree or other (although politics was rarely discussed) I don't recall them ever being permeated by Marx. Only one person I know I'd consider hardcore left and he was like that before he ever went to college.

Roger_007

Ihatecuddles wrote: »

I wasn't athiest, just stopped going to mass!

Either way, it's the 'fires of hell' for you.:D

Henlars67

sugar_fiend wrote: »

can never understand those who claim they went from being atheist to religious , I doubt they were ever atheist at all , for me their could never be a going back

There's definitely no going back. I hate religion more with every passing day

EdenHazard

Henlars67 wrote: »

There's definitely no going back. I hate religion more with every passing day

Ummm I dunno there are a lot of priests who if you listen actually have a lot of good to say but then you get the nutjobs(went to my mums months mind at weekend) and the priest was going on about how he read in the newspaper about some young famous persons biggest wish in life was to see Michael Jackson, he used this wish to demonstrate young peoples move away from Catholicism. Wacko. Proper was like something out of Father Ted.

stoneill

I thought the brushed chrome effect was the way to go for my light fittings but the black wrought iron just set the room off perfectly.

sbsquarepants

lazygal wrote: »

Opposite, was brainwashed by a religious education to believe abortion was always wrong. Now I'm very prochoice. I've become even more prochoice since having children.

They must be some unruly children!:D

The Royal Scam wrote: »

I used to wipe my arse standing up, now I'm a sit down and wipe .

Stupid but true story - I never actually realised this was feasible untill i seen your man from dawsons creek do it in a movie (i think it was called the opposite of attraction) about 10 or 15 years ago. (I remember it clearly cos i don't think i've ever felt as fúcking stupid before or since!) I've been a convert ever since then.

diomed

I thought Fianna Fail were good for the economy.

Instead of wondering what happened to the insects and the birds I fill bird feeders 365 days a year, got rid of my back lawn and planted wildflowers and wild grasses. I cut it with a scythe.

Gummy Panda

Sweet & sour chicken or chicken in a black bean sauce

Very important

FouxDaFaFa

Religion.

Abortion.

Legalisation of (some) drugs.

I used to hate beer but am coming around to the fact that nice ones exist.

Became a vegetarian so, I guess, changed my mind about eating meat.

Roger_007

Dusting!, I used to think that dusting had to be done regularly but now I realise that after a couple of months it doesn't get any worse!

Frank Black

Olives - used to think they were disgusting. Now I love them.

Ming Flannigan - Seemed like a kinda cool guy who smoked dope and wanted to legalise it. Now, I hear him on the radio with his whiney voice, I want to punch him in the balls.

LA Confidential - really enjoyed this so much more on a second viewing.

Also, abortion and God.

ash23

I used to be pro-life until I had an unplanned pregnancy at 19, was dumped by the father and had to give an abortion serious consideration. I decided not to have one but I am staunchly pro-choice ever since.

I used to be a bit dubious of welfare recipients, especially young single mothers (girls I knew from school who never worked etc). I didn't hold them in very high regard and couldn't understand why they wouldn't just "get a job". Until I became a single mother and was doing my best to get back to work and being thwarted at every turn by the welfare trap (which I realised is a very very real thing where childcare is concerned).

So for me, it was definitely a case of "walk a mile in my shoes" and my eyes weren't long being opened!

Mr. CooL ICE

The fat food group being unhealthy to being awesome (in certain circumstances) was a big change for me. I feel fitter, healthier and have more energy as a result.

Also, climate change.

Crann na Beatha

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Jester252

kunst nugget wrote: »

It does? I went to college as did most of my friends and while some to most were probably left leaning to some degree or other (although politics was rarely discussed) I don't recall them ever being permeated by Marx. Only one person I know I'd consider hardcore left and he was like that before he ever went to college.

You should try UL one of the most poster active societies is the socialist youth. The f'n hate Mr. Moneybags. We also had a problem with another students spamming invites to their Marx reading group over the university email.
My cousin did economic and he got help from a lecture at his mother college. He was invited to attend an economic meeting as a guest of the lecture. He was half way through the first talk when he realised it was red meeting.

Amirani

Jester252 wrote: »

You should try UL one of the most poster active societies is the socialist youth. The f'n hate Mr. Moneybags. We also had a problem with another students spamming invites to their Marx reading group over the university email.
My cousin did economic and he got help from a lecture at his mother college. He was invited to attend an economic meeting as a guest of the lecture. He was half way through the first talk when he realised it was red meeting.

Funnily enough, UL likely wouldn't exist as it does without rich capitalist benefactors.