Tormented Dolphin may have to be destroyed

Capt'n Midnight · 06-08-2013 01:50PM

Jelly2 wrote: »

I can hardly believe that someone would attempt to harm her by putting cider in her blowhole

It's that sort of thing that really gets up my noise :mad:

FTA69 · 06-08-2013 01:53PM

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

There's your problem, it's not a 'cute dolphin', it's a wild animal. A hell of a lot stronger than you and capable of defending itself and causing injury and death.

Really, the amount of downright idiots that swim out looking for some sort of 'bonding with nature' experience is quite staggering, let alone the wanton cruelty of the cider wielding dopes (wherever they came from)

Just leave the bloody thing alone, is that too much to ask?

No argument about leaving it alone. The question now though is it attacking random strangers, i.e. is the poor thing now so tormented it attacks any and all people? If that's the case then we're discussing a different matter entirely.

tricky D · 06-08-2013 01:58PM

Here's a vid with what typically happens with people grabbing etc. From 0.38 Dusty is tail slapping which means either danger or fcuk off, not this is great craic altogether. Dumb humans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAMFBvpPQ40

gobnaitolunacy · 06-08-2013 01:59PM

FTA69 wrote: »

No argument about leaving it alone. The question now though is it attacking random strangers, i.e. is the poor thing now so tormented it attacks any and all people? If that's the case then we're discussing a different matter entirely.

In the article, a red flag is raised when it's around. People should just heed the lifeguards and get out of the water.
Trouble is; we will always get idiots who will stay put or enter the water when the lifeguards arent about.

Lamina · 06-08-2013 02:04PM

I've seen her loads of times in Doolin. The area she comes up to and where people swim with her is just off the pier, where the ferries pull up and where other boats enter the water. In my opinion, you shouldn't be swimming in that location anyway! Plus the people I've seen swimming with her won't leave her alone. She's normally swimming around playing with something and they swim after her, trying to touch her. That's when she gets pissed off and feels threatened. Hopefully they put up will help keep people out, but you don't you know all the ''oh I've swam with her looooads of times'' will keep going into the water.

She does like humans, I've touched her lots of times. She comes over to the steps and lets you touch her and swims off when she's bored of you. People just need to respect her space and not follow her around. If she wants to be around you she'll come to you.

Jelly2 · 06-08-2013 02:15PM

Lamina wrote: »

I've seen her loads of times in Doolin. The area she comes up to and where people swim with her is just off the pier, where the ferries pull up and where other boats enter the water. In my opinion, you shouldn't be swimming in that location anyway! Plus the people I've seen swimming with her won't leave her alone. She's normally swimming around playing with something and they swim after her, trying to touch her. That's when she gets pissed off and feels threatened. Hopefully they put up will help keep people out, but you don't you know all the ''oh I've swam with her looooads of times'' will keep going into the water.

She does like humans, I've touched her lots of times. She comes over to the steps and lets you touch her and swims off when she's bored of you. People just need to respect her space and not follow her around. If she wants to be around you she'll come to you.

Good post. I also heard some local fishermen say that people shouldn't be swimming there anyway because of the way the currents work.

kylith · 06-08-2013 02:16PM

People have been brainwashed by stuff like Flipper, and the whole Swim with Dolphin's industry that they're gentle, friendly creatures that love people, and they don't realise that dolphins are actually large, carnivorous animals capable of making mincemeat of a shark. Put up a big sign saying DOLPHINS ARE WILD ANIMALS. DO NOT APPROACH. THOSE FOUND APPROACHING THE DOLPHIN WILL BE PROSECUTED, that might make them think twice.

gobnaitolunacy · 06-08-2013 02:17PM

Jelly2 wrote: »

Good post. I also heard some local fishermen say that people shouldn't be swimming there anyway because of the way the currents work.

Pity it can't be backed up with warning signage, but I guess we're too poor to do so now.

Duiske · 06-08-2013 02:18PM

becost wrote: »

If you read the article it says "local" campers.

Could well be just local yobs setting up a tent for a nights piss up, but more likely just means people who were staying at a local campsite. Could have been from anywhere really. One thing I've learned over the years is that no matter where you go, no matter what the population size, the % of arseholes is pretty much always the same.

Weevil · 06-08-2013 02:19PM

FTA69 wrote: »

And what happens if the dolphin kills a child? Or some American tourist having a dip? Is that just tough sh*t as well is it? There's no doubt it's a tragic state of affairs, but if the dolphin is attacking random people then there's only one realistic option.

It's not the Washington sniper, ffs! People should be warned not to swim in the vicinity, and if they can't heed the warning then you can assume they're related to the dickheads who tried to pour the cider into her blowhole.

gordongekko · 06-08-2013 02:22PM

maybe the dolphin just has a hangover. He might be grand in a few days.

Ken. · 06-08-2013 02:22PM

Put signs up warning of danger. Then put a sniper about a hundred yards away. First cünt that enters the water gets a warning shot. After that its shoot to kill. I reckon it'll only need 5-10 deaths before mongos get the message.

tin79 · 06-08-2013 02:24PM

krudler wrote: »

they're invading the dolphin's space, its her environment not ours, if a dolphin strolled onto a city street and started punching people in the face then it'd be an issue, dumbasses going swimming with a wild animal then getting injured is just Darwinism in full effect.

You logic, though clearly off the wall, is undeniable.

If a Dolphin strolled anywhere it would make the news on its own.

Its a pity there cant be an exclusion zone around all marine mammals.

aliceayres · 06-08-2013 02:36PM

Could understand it if it was a popular swimming spot but it seems it's not. Just killing an interesting piece of nature because some people are imbeciles.

shane9689 · 06-08-2013 02:51PM

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

No-one p*sses about with what people percieve as wild animals or bulls

ohh yes they do friend, oh yes they do...spain come to mind? haha american guy got totally impaled there earlier this summer

Lamina · 06-08-2013 02:52PM

I can't them putting her to sleep, there would be uproar from people at home as well as everyone abroad who fell in love with her. Plus the Dolphin alone attracts people/money to that area. I've often gone solely to watch the Dolphin, and then ended up spending money on a bag of chips or a cup of tea at the kiosks.

gobnaitolunacy · 06-08-2013 02:54PM

shane9689 wrote: »

ohh yes they do friend, oh yes they do...spain come to mind? haha american guy got totally impaled there earlier this summer

I meant in this country, pal.
Spain has had that particular brand of imbecility for centuries masquerading as 'culture'.

L.Jenkins · 06-08-2013 02:55PM

becost wrote: »

Basically the story goes like this; During the good weather a few weeks ago, groups of Numbskulls down in Clare were trying to pour cider down "Dusty" the Dolphins blowhole, trying to jump on her back and grabbing on to her fin. As a result, this once friendly Dolphin is now attacking people in the water off Doolin with one woman receiving broken ribs, compressed vertebrae and lung damage after being rammed last Sunday. And there's a suggestion that the Dolphin may have to be destroyed. :eek: Under the circumstances, I think it would be much fairer to accommodate the Dolphin in this situation and let people who choose to swim in these waters know that they will be swimming at their own risk due to the behavior of certain inbred people.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/fears-tormented-dolphin-may-kill-a-swimmer-238812.html

I'd say no to destroying the creature, as Dusty should serve as a reminder that animal cruelty is not on under any circumstances.

anncoates · 06-08-2013 03:01PM

Lamina wrote: »

She does like humans, I've touched her lots of times.

Maybe Dusty just needs counselling.

EDit · 06-08-2013 03:17PM

Lamina wrote: »

I've seen her loads of times in Doolin. The area she comes up to and where people swim with her is just off the pier, where the ferries pull up and where other boats enter the water. In my opinion, you shouldn't be swimming in that location anyway! Plus the people I've seen swimming with her won't leave her alone. She's normally swimming around playing with something and they swim after her, trying to touch her. That's when she gets pissed off and feels threatened. Hopefully they put up will help keep people out, but you don't you know all the ''oh I've swam with her looooads of times'' will keep going into the water.

She does like humans, I've touched her lots of times. She comes over to the steps and lets you touch her and swims off when she's bored of you. People just need to respect her space and not follow her around. If she wants to be around you she'll come to you.

Totally agree with this. In reality, its a pretty grotty spot to swim and there are plenty of other much better beach options within 10-20 mins drive from Doolin. Just ban swimming there (except for that little pool that appears when the tide goes out) and leave the beast alone

shane9689 · 06-08-2013 03:22PM

what i dont get is why doesnt she just hide? shes a ****ing dolphin in an ocean! so easy to escape barely floating humans on the surface. im in full support of the animal but her logic is abit off for such a smart creature

shane9689 · 06-08-2013 03:23PM

i swam with funghi once when there was no one around, and all he had to do to avoid me was swim away

celica00 · 06-08-2013 03:28PM

shane9689 wrote: »

what i dont get is why doesnt she just hide? shes a ****ing dolphin in an ocean! so easy to escape barely floating humans on the surface. im in full support of the animal but her logic is abit off for such a smart creature

Dolphins are also territorial, that could explain it

Karl Stein · 06-08-2013 03:30PM

Interesting fact.

Dolphins used to be fish. A few millions years ago the Dolphin's ancestor used to chase fish onto the beach. While it was eating the fish it spotted coconuts and fruits onshore and so over time it developed lungs and stubby legs. Eventually it was able to leave the water and climb trees. Nobody knows why the legs were replaced by fins and the Dolphin no longer climbs trees.

ScumLord · 06-08-2013 03:31PM

Lamina wrote: »

I can't them putting her to sleep, there would be uproar from people at home as well as everyone abroad who fell in love with her.

This week at the gathering, we shot a dolphin for getting pissy about being hung off.

shane9689 wrote: »

what i dont get is why doesnt she just hide?

Maybe a bit territorial, and being an Irish dolphin she's probably hanging around out of spite and will die before she gives the beach to humans.

Red Nissan · 06-08-2013 03:50PM

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

Nobody knows why the legs were replaced by fins and the Dolphin no longer climbs trees.

It's thought to be climate change. We may be descendent from those ancient Dolphins, who roamed the land, but the Earth entered and ice age and the Dolphins returned to the sea.

AllGunsBlazing · 06-08-2013 03:59PM

I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him... and kill him... for ten!

GreeBo · 06-08-2013 04:07PM

FTA69 wrote: »

By all means relocate it if that's possible, but if it's hurting people then it can't be let hang around really can it?

If it starts hopping out onto the beach and hurting people then fine, but its in the water, yunno...like where it lives?
People are going into its territory...there is lots of dangerous stuff in the water...should we nuke it all?
Thats a bit like blaming space for the fact that if I go there without preparation I will die.

Nevermind_ · 06-08-2013 05:03PM

Duiske wrote: »

Could well be just local yobs setting up a tent for a nights piss up, but more likely just means people who were staying at a local campsite. Could have been from anywhere really. One thing I've learned over the years is that no matter where you go, no matter what the population size, the % of arseholes is pretty much always the same.

Agree with you on the % of the population being arseholes but...
It is highly unlikely the people attempting to pour cider were locals, people tend not to camp and then sh1te on their own doorstep where many people know them and would easily identify them. Its a rural area, everyone knows everyone else, someone would know you were there and word would spread.

I used to swim with this dolphin regularly 10 years ago at a different location in Doolin long before anyone named her where there is a cliff and cave diving spot. We went to this spot regularly but it was so hard to find and inaccessible that it was usually just locals and people who had been told about this location who swam there. Unless you were looking to go cliff jumping you had no real reason to go there. We never had any negative incident, she was very curious but we were respectful and didn't try to grab onto her.
She is a wild Dolphin not a Dolphin raised by humans in Seaworld there is a huge difference.

After a tragic incident the "road"/boithrin used to get to this location was blocked off for good, meaning you now had to hike for 45mins to get there and it became much quieter there. The dolphin then moved along to its current location in Doolin which is much easier accessed hence more people.

I'm not saying all locals are doctor Doolittle type animal whisperers but in my experience in that area its generally people from other places not as familiar with marine life who do things they really shouldn't. I couldn't count the amount of times I've seen a group of young fellas on a weekend away swimming in an area I know to be very dangerous or jumping off a cliff into water i know not to be safely deep enough.

Rule of thumb; If you don't see any locals doing it then there's usually a good reason why
P.S. sticking your finger in a blowhole of an animal who probably weighs 3 times the average human is just going full retard

Lamina · 06-08-2013 05:17PM

ScumLord wrote: »

This week at the gathering, we shot a dolphin for getting pissy about being hung off.

Maybe a bit territorial, and being an Irish dolphin she's probably hanging around out of spite and will die before she gives the beach to humans.

That's disgraceful, where was this?

Tormented Dolphin may have to be destroyed

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