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Tormented Dolphin may have to be destroyed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    FTA69 wrote: »
    In fairness it seems that the dolphin is attacking random swimmers now and not just those who engage it. If that's the case then the dolphin would need to be destroyed as it isn't really practical to have a dangerous wild animal attacking swimmers at a popular tourist destination.

    If it's going out of its way to attack swimmers in other areas then that's different, but its still a sh1tty situation that some absolute clowns affected an animal's behaviour and now it has to die as a result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    I really don't see why this dolphin should have to be put down because of a pack of morons. If sufficient warning signs are put up telling people not to swim in the locale and to leave this animal alone surely thats enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    While obviously regrettable, something has to be done if the dolphin is attacking innocent humans.

    I'd hardly call people tormenting the animal as 'innocent', i.e. - Pouring cider down it's blowhole, jumping on it's back, yanking it's fins, etc...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    I'd hardly call people tormenting the animal as 'innocent', i.e. - Pouring cider down it's blowhole, jumping on it's back, yanking it's fins, etc...

    I'm clearly not referring to them. It's not that difficult to realise that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭becost


    It seems it's a person from a rural area. OP assumes that because the incident happened in Clare that those responsible were local despite it being a popular camping destination for foreign tourists and Dubliners. :rolleyes:

    I'm going on what the examiner reported.

    "One group of local campers, it emerged, allegedly attempted to pour cider down her blowhole."


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    becost wrote: »
    Woolyback has it's origins in people from the Welsh valleys but can also be used to describe rural Irish people.




    If you read the article it says "local" campers.

    Smacks of city boy superiority complex to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    becost wrote: »
    I'm going on what the examiner reported.

    "One group of local campers, it emerged, allegedly attempted to pour cider down her blowhole."
    They were camping locally, they could have been from anywhere. Doolin is a very popular camping destination for surfers from Dublin. Why on Earth would somebody from Doolin be camping in Doolin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    PucaMama wrote: »
    Another animal paying the price for human stupidity!

    Edit: no cruelty charges over the cider???

    Can we not fit knives to the dolphins nose and flippers, then no one will want to go near it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    You've raised the bar for all of us and I thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Jelly2


    Yes, but that might mean campers from the campsite a few hundred yards from the pier...
    Anyway, it's a minor quibble in a great post, and thanks for bringing wider attention to the dolphin's plight.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭becost


    Meaning people camping in the locality FFS.

    Really? So if the story was about a robbery in Dublin and they said they believed it was a group of local criminals, would that mean they were criminals from the other end of the country stealing in in the locality? Don't be such a gobshite. :D

    Banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭celica00


    There is no reason at all to put this poor animal down!
    It is "our" own fault if the dolphin is now aggressiv, the humans well deserve it.
    There should be signs out and whoever ignores it, has to deal with it at their own risk.
    Nature also "fights" back sometimes, I hope karma will hit those idiots HARD!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    joe stodge wrote: »
    Can we not fit knives to the dolphins nose and flippers, then no one will want to go near it.

    Like military dolphins?

    Just what the dolphins need, more humans interfering.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭becost


    They were camping locally, they could have been from anywhere. Doolin is a very popular camping destination for surfers from Dublin. Why on Earth would somebody from Doolin be camping in Doolin?

    I think they probably mean Clare people when they say "local". Shut up. Your annoying me know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Jelly2


    becost wrote: »
    Really? So if the story was about a robbery in Dublin and they said they believed it was a group of local criminals, would that mean they were criminals from the other end of the country stealing in in the locality? Don't be such a gobshite. :D

    Poor comparison, because campers are almost always not from the local area in which they camp. Locals from Doolin camping in Doolin? Not likely.
    Anyway, can we all just leave this bit of the OP's opening post go, and concentrate on the important part?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    krudler wrote: »
    If it's going out of its way to attack swimmers in other areas then that's different, but its still a sh1tty situation that some absolute clowns affected an animal's behaviour and now it has to die as a result.

    Awful and tragic I agree. My experience with beautiful nature spots is that there will also be a small minority of utter twats who will f*ck it up for everyone else. A dolphin's blow hole is it's way of breathing like, and some dope tries to pour a load of Linden Village down it. We had kestrels nesting in the yard I where I used to work in East London and one of the fellas working there killed one with an empty bottle. A swimming hole I know in West Cork was ruined by people I know throwing empty cans all over the place. It's sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    celica00 wrote: »
    There is no reason at all to put this poor animal down!
    It is "our" own fault if the dolphin is now aggressiv, the humans well deserve it.
    There should be signs out and whoever ignores it, has to deal with it at their own risk.
    Nature also "fights" back sometimes, I hope karma will hit those idiots HARD!

    And what happens if the dolphin kills a child? Or some American tourist having a dip? Is that just tough sh*t as well is it? There's no doubt it's a tragic state of affairs, but if the dolphin is attacking random people then there's only one realistic option.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭Kicking Bird


    FTA69 wrote: »
    And what happens if the dolphin kills a child? Or some American tourist having a dip? Is that just tough sh*t as well is it? There's no doubt it's a tragic state of affairs, but if the dolphin is attacking random people then there's only one realistic option.[/QUOTE

    There's never just one realistic option!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭celica00


    FTA69 wrote: »
    And what happens if the dolphin kills a child? Or some American tourist having a dip? Is that just tough sh*t as well is it? There's no doubt it's a tragic state of affairs, but if the dolphin is attacking random people then there's only one realistic option.

    As I said, there should be signs and information so that people will know what is going on!
    And then its on their own risk. If they ignore the signs (the same as the lads ignored the animal by "abusing" it), then its their own fault.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Dolphins are just gay sharks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭loveisdivine


    FTA69 wrote: »
    And what happens if the dolphin kills a child? Or some American tourist having a dip? Is that just tough sh*t as well is it? There's no doubt it's a tragic state of affairs, but if the dolphin is attacking random people then there's only one realistic option.

    If they choose to enter the water with a wild animal then yeah it is tough sh*t. If it was a (pweshus) child I would vote to the have the parents destroyed for being massively negligent.

    If they try and destroy Dusty I will be one of the first ones down there protesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    FTA69 wrote: »
    And what happens if the dolphin kills a child? Or some American tourist having a dip? Is that just tough sh*t as well is it? There's no doubt it's a tragic state of affairs, but if the dolphin is attacking random people then there's only one realistic option.

    Such as catch it and relocate it near other dolphins?
    http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/media/OEHMedia13050201.htm
    http://www.ulladullatimes.com.au/story/1484486/dolphin-finds-a-new-home-at-bendalong/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    slimjimmc wrote: »

    why the fcuk don't people just stay away. I personally know the numnut that got injured and, frankly, I'm not surprised. She was asking for it....Jesus...and you need a licence for a dog....meh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Exactly what I was thinking.

    People should be careful near Dolphins anyway.

    They can let their guard down and in turn become victims of boats propellers etc.

    We were actually discussing Dolphins on lunch today on a separate article on the DM and I was informed that Dolphins are well known at being sexual predators too and can rape humans ! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    celica00 wrote: »
    As I said, there should be signs and information so that people will know what is going on!
    And then its on their own risk. If they ignore the signs (the same as the lads ignored the animal by "abusing" it), then its their own fault.

    Load of sh*t to be honest. If it was a jellyfish that was attacking people and doling out serious injuries, people would have no bother dealing with it, it's only the fact that it's a cute dolphin is what's winding some people up. Doolin beach is a popular tourist destination and local amenity, it's a balls that some people wound the dolphin up but that doesn't mean everyone else (including visiting tourists) should have to suffer over it because you don't want to offend one dolphin.

    By all means relocate it if that's possible, but if it's hurting people then it can't be let hang around really can it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    MugMugs wrote: »
    I was informed that Dolphins are well known at being sexual predators too and can rape humans ! :eek:

    Actually I've changed my mind again, shoot it so! First priests and now the dolphins?! Can we trust nobody anymore?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    If it was a (pweshus) child I would vote to the have the parents destroyed for being massively negligent.

    Considering the animal is capable of inflicting broken bones and collapsed lungs I wouldn't really call a child "pweshus" for being attacked by it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Load of sh*t to be honest. If it was a jellyfish that was attacking people and doling out serious injuries, people would have no bother dealing with it, it's only the fact that it's a cute dolphin is what's winding some people up. Doolin beach is a popular tourist destination and local amenity, it's a balls that some people wound the dolphin up but that doesn't mean everyone else (including visiting tourists) should have to suffer over it because you don't want to offend one dolphin.

    By all means relocate it if that's possible, but if it's hurting people then it can't be let hang around really can it?

    There's your problem, it's not a 'cute dolphin', it's a wild animal. A hell of a lot stronger than you and capable of defending itself and causing injury and death.

    Really, the amount of downright idiots that swim out looking for some sort of 'bonding with nature' experience is quite staggering, let alone the wanton cruelty of the cider wielding dopes (wherever they came from)

    Just leave the bloody thing alone, is that too much to ask?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭celica00


    FTA69 wrote: »

    By all means relocate it if that's possible, but if it's hurting people then it can't be let hang around really can it?

    well, in my eyes i think thats only fair, maybe "we" learn sometimes out of it and it could make people think twice before they (ever) harm an animal..doesnt matter if its locals or even tourists.

    If relocating is possible, of course I'd agree, but in the matter of putting it down...clearly a now and as I said...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭becost


    Jelly2 wrote: »
    Yes, but that might mean campers from the campsite a few hundred yards from the pier...
    Anyway, it's a minor quibble in a great post, and thanks for bringing wider attention to the dolphin's plight.

    No problem. Sea-Dogs I call them. :D
    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Dolphins are just gay sharks

    Asperger Syndrome? ;)


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