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Give Gardai credit card machines

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  • #92
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    ... has it actually led to a decrease?

    The Govt believe so, based on a study in 2003.
    The use of enforcement to enhance road user behaviour is effective in two ways (Cameron et al, 2003). A road user who commits an offence will generally be deterred from committing further offences once he/she has been apprehended. This is referred to as ‘specific deterrence’.

    Road users who are aware that other road users are being detected will refrain from offending themselves. This is known as ‘general deterrence’.
    http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/safetycameras.pdf/Files/safetycameras.pdf

    Anyway, people when drunk lose all perception of money. Handing over a piece of plastic is not going to sober them up.

    No, but reading the statement when it comes in the post might.


  • #93
    downonthefarm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    it would be like a mule with a spinning wheel. danged if he knows how he got it and danged if he knows how to use it


  • #94
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    MadsL wrote: »
    The Govt believe so, based on a study in 2003.


    http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/safetycameras.pdf/Files/safetycameras.pdf




    No, but reading the statement when it comes in the post might.

    Fair enough re: the speeding.

    The statement comes through some time after. And will be forgotten about after a tank full of booze.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #95
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Fair enough re: the speeding.

    The statement comes through some time after. And will be forgotten about after a tank full of booze.

    Quite the boozy world where money is irrelevant.


  • #96
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    true-or-false wrote: »
    Yes, ridiculous to expect a grown adult to hold it for an hour. As a handy bit of advice: if you're not good at holding it, go before you leave the club.

    It's well known that if you've had even just a couple of drinks you need to piss more often, coupled with the fact that I knock back water like there's no tomorrow for several reasons, even if I go before I leave the club I'm not likely to make the hour and a half trip back to Sandycove without needing to go again. Badly.

    I don't really see what the argument is here - we're a modern country for f*ck's sake, public toilets are the most basic facilities imaginable and if our government refuses to provide them then I refuse to hold it in. Simple as. I honestly don't think that's unreasonable at all. Can you find me a single other capital city in Western Europe which doesn't have a single public toilet between the city centre and the suburbs?


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  • #97
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    MadsL wrote: »
    Pissing in public can't really have much of a defence now can it?

    how many public toilets are there around ireland? Very, very few last I remember. There comes a point for everyone where they are beyond holding it. Urinating is a normal bodily function, and if it gets to the point that you're unable to hold it any longer the options are 1)find somewhere quiet down a laneway with little foot traffic to go, or 2) go where you stand, in your trousers. Both are public urination, one is a sensible solution, the other is not


  • #98
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    COYVB wrote: »
    how many public toilets are there around ireland? Very, very few last I remember. There comes a point for everyone where they are beyond holding it. Urinating is a normal bodily function, and if it gets to the point that you're unable to hold it any longer the options are 1)find somewhere quiet down a laneway with little foot traffic to go, or 2) go where you stand, in your trousers. Both are public urination, one is a sensible solution, the other is not
    Funny how on any weekend night in any city centre in Ireland you'll see lots of blokes pissing up against walls, but much fewer girls.
    Their bladders must be built differently.


  • #99
    Swan Curry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Swan Curry


    The Gardaí can't be trusted with money when all they're supposed to do is keep it locked up,would you actually trust them with the power to take money from people on the spot?


  • #100
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Swan Curry wrote: »
    The Gardaí can't be trusted with money when all they're supposed to do is keep it locked up,would you actually trust them with the power to take money from people on the spot?
    They wouldn't be taking any cash at all. It would be a CC swipe.


  • #101
    sdanseo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,301 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    artanevilla wrote: »
    Wouldn't look good if you were applying for a loan and there was a few fines on your account.
    clairefontaine wrote: »
    Also a lot of people don't like paying electronically, they prefer cash, so third
    parties, like insurance companies, can't access you lifestyle habits.
    MadsL wrote: »
    Pissing in the street is a lifestyle habit. Hmmm.

    Best not do it in the first place if you do not wish your 'habits' to be shared with your insurance company. Or go to court and pay full whack.

    If you're a applying for a loan a bank is only allowed to take into account your likely income and outgoings. What they are shouldn't make any difference, to do so would be discrimination.

    Same goes for insurance companies, although you are required to disclose any motoring fine resulting in penalty points or any conviction to your insurance company, as it's a material fact. Failing to means you can be uninsured, which is about a 1-year ban these days.

    I pay everything I can by direct debit, and I simply don't understand those that don't! So much trouble and effort required to pay multiple bills regularly and manually, and most places charge you more for the privelige hassle. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.


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  • #102
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    It's well known that if you've had even just a couple of drinks you need to piss more often, coupled with the fact that I knock back water like there's no tomorrow for several reasons, even if I go before I leave the club I'm not likely to make the hour and a half trip back to Sandycove without needing to go again. Badly.

    You really are the minority when it comes to walking home that distance after a night out, most people would take a taxi that distance. You are choosing to do that which results in you pissing where people live.
    I don't really see what the argument is here - we're a modern country for f*ck's sake, public toilets are the most basic facilities imaginable and if our government refuses to provide them then I refuse to hold it in. Simple as. I honestly don't think that's unreasonable at all. Can you find me a single other capital city in Western Europe which doesn't have a single public toilet between the city centre and the suburbs?

    Would you pay a fee for a pee? Doubtless you'd be moaning at the cost of attended toilets//

    Lack of public provision for public toilets means you set out to create a nuisance and health problem for the rest of society. Lovely response.


  • #103
    donegal_road
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    things could get pretty ugly in this country if the Gardai are to make up the shortfall in their overtime wages by issuing more fines.


  • #104
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    donegal_road wrote: »
    things could get pretty ugly in this country if the Gardai are to make up the shortfall in their overtime wages by issuing more fines.

    Where am I suggesting that?

    Also, do you feel that late-night/weekend behaviour of many of Irish cities is overpoliced? It certainly wouldn't be tolerated in the majority of cities.


  • #105
    donegal_road
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    MadsL wrote: »
    Where am I suggesting that?

    Also, do you feel that late-night/weekend behaviour of many of Irish cities is overpoliced? It certainly wouldn't be tolerated in the majority of cities.

    I never said you were suggesting that.. I heard it said a few weeks ago by a friend who heard it from a different source (Im not asking anyone to believe me btw)

    To answer your second question, I used to live in Derry.


  • #106
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    MadsL wrote: »
    You really are the minority when it comes to walking home that distance after a night out, most people would take a taxi that distance. You are choosing to do that which results in you pissing where people live.

    Beside the point, it's the capital city and it should have public toilets, end of.


    Would you pay a fee for a pee? Doubtless you'd be moaning at the cost of attended toilets//

    Why the f*ck do they have to be attended? There's a coin operated one in Sandycove which is about a euro a go, or 2 maybe, why can't we have more of them? If there's a junkie problem then that's the Gardai's responsibility to deal with.
    Lack of public provision for public toilets means you set out to create a nuisance and health problem for the rest of society. Lovely response.

    I only go in bushes or against trees, but taking a piss is a such a basic thing and every other city I've been to has public toilets. There's absolutely no excuse for our lack of facilities.


  • #107
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    COYVB wrote: »
    how many public toilets are there around ireland? Very, very few last I remember. There comes a point for everyone where they are beyond holding it. Urinating is a normal bodily function, and if it gets to the point that you're unable to hold it any longer the options are 1)find somewhere quiet down a laneway with little foot traffic to go, or 2) go where you stand, in your trousers. Both are public urination, one is a sensible solution, the other is not

    Jesus wept. Neither is acceptable.


  • #108
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Ireland did introduce public toilets - self cleaning ones - in the 90's. Probably they were ruined.


  • #109
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Special offer this month - get caught three times, but only pay twice!! :D

    They could have Loyalty cards.


  • #110
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Beside the point, it's the capital city and it should have public toilets, end of.

    So you aren't going to acknowledge that you make a choice that involves you in a public order offence on a regular basis.
    Why the f*ck do they have to be attended? There's a coin operated one in Sandycove which is about a euro a go, or 2 maybe, why can't we have more of them? If there's a junkie problem then that's the Gardai's responsibility to deal with.

    Have you contacted DCC to raise the issue? Do tell us the response; I'm not averse to supporting your campaign for toilets but I think they should be aware of your 'dirty protest' and two-hour march to Sandycove to highlight the issue.
    I only go in bushes or against trees, but taking a piss is a such a basic thing and every other city I've been to has public toilets. There's absolutely no excuse for our lack of facilities.

    Best you avoid downtown areas of Rome, NYC, Baltimore, Seattle and Chicago then.


  • #111
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Frank Lee Midere wrote: »
    Ireland did introduce public toilets - self cleaning ones - in the 90's. Probably they were ruined.

    Toilets were supposed to be included in the deal between JC Decaux and DCC as part of the dublinbikes package.

    Once several sites were removed from the advertising deal after public objections on safety grounds (which was absurdly generous to JCD) they reneged on the toilets.

    So, indirectly, I may have a partial impact in the lack of public toilets in Dublin :o - but I would prefer to think that a life or two got saved up on Dorset street.


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  • #112
    _sparkie_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭_sparkie_


    Weevil wrote: »
    These powers would probably require six months extra training in Templemore and a technology allowance.

    To operate the mop.


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