Would you support the reintroduction of the death penalty?

willmunny1990 · 04-08-2013 03:36PM

Agree with the death penalty 100%

It should be made mandatory to have the death penalty in every country in my opinion.

Life in prison should mean life in prison too. I don't know how many times I have seen/read about people up in court for burglary, drugs, assault etc with strings of previous convictions attached to their names and yet they still don't see the inside of a cell.

We have a genuinely pathetic and reprehensible legal system which favors scumbags, I personally would not call us a civilized country at the moment, I mean how civilized is it letting scum, criminals walk free time and time again?

Chancer3001 · 04-08-2013 03:37PM

it costs us a fortune to keep these creeps in prison.

i really dont see why prisoners arent forced to work.

04-08-2013 03:37PM

It's just a nonsense argument that the death penalty deters murder.

In the US, the states with the lowest murder rate, are states with no death penalty. Michigan and New Mexico being the only real exceptions, of the states with no death penalty statute.

Amirani · 04-08-2013 03:37PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

It should be made mandatory to have the death penalty in every country in my opinion.

How exactly would this work?

namloc1980 · 04-08-2013 03:40PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

It should be made mandatory to have the death penalty in every country in my opinion.

Without a doubt, this is the most bizarre post I have ever seen.

willmunny1990 · 04-08-2013 03:40PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

How exactly would this work?

It would only work in an ideal world which unfortunately we don't have.

Amirani · 04-08-2013 03:42PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

It would only work in an ideal world which unfortunately we don't have.

Haha, what sort of an ideal world has people deserving of the death penalty? You need to come up with a better ideal world.

04-08-2013 03:42PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

It would only work in an ideal world which unfortunately we don't have.

In an ideal world, we wouldn't need to resort to killing people.

namloc1980 · 04-08-2013 03:43PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

It would only work in an ideal world which unfortunately we don't have.

So your idea of Utopia is state sanctioned killing in every country in the world! Sound like a Dystopian nightmare.

willmunny1990 · 04-08-2013 03:43PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

Haha, what sort of an ideal world has people deserving of the death penalty? You need to come up with a better ideal world.

No I don't.

There are plenty of crimes all over the world that warrant the death penalty as punishment.

willmunny1990 · 04-08-2013 03:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

In an ideal world, we wouldn't need to resort to killing people.

I really mean an ideal legal system should have the death penalty as an option, should of made that clearer.

How much does it cost the tax payer to keep these prisoners locked up for life? A lot id imagine.

shootermacg · 04-08-2013 03:49PM

Chancer3001 wrote: »

it costs us a fortune to keep these creeps in prison.

i really dont see why prisoners arent forced to work.

I agree, these people should be put to work, but the question is what kind of work. Roadwork is all fine in the states because the officers are armed to the teeth.

On a different note, I would love the unemployed to be put to work on state projects, not leased to companies for slave labour, although in this day and age it would probably be an insurance nightmare.

Amirani · 04-08-2013 03:52PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

How much does it cost the tax payer to keep these prisoners locked up for life? A lot id imagine.

Less than it costs to execute people as it happens. Don't let that run your utopia though.

04-08-2013 04:38PM

Hitchens wrote: »

Everyone I've spoken to about it (all ordinary law abiding folk, not the PC Brigade and tree-huggers that infest internet forums) would vote for the death penalty in a referendum!

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Agree with the death penalty 100%

It should be made mandatory to have the death penalty in every country in my opinion.

With arguments of this calibre, how can the pro-death camp (pun unintended) lose?

04-08-2013 04:51PM

Hitchens wrote: »

Everyone I've spoken to about it (all ordinary law abiding folk, not the PC Brigade and tree-huggers that infest internet forums) would vote for the death penalty in a referendum!

Everyone I speak to, hate Fine Gael.

Funny ole world.

Gatling · 04-08-2013 04:57PM

So why are posters so against capital punishment

Amirani · 04-08-2013 05:07PM

Gatling wrote: »

So why are posters so against capital punishment

Because murder, including state-sponsored murder, is immoral and unjustifiable.

Chancer3001 · 04-08-2013 05:18PM

hes bad. hes SO bad that we are going to kill him.

Inject him with a load of poison til he dies.

because hes bad.

Gatling · 04-08-2013 05:20PM

If you take a life you invalidate your right to life

Norwesterner · 04-08-2013 05:23PM

Gatling wrote: »

If you take a life you invalidate your right to life

there is very little moral wriggle room between taking someones life and locking them in a cell for the rest of their life.
Capital punishment in some cases makes good economic sense.
Almost 100k per year to keep one prisoner.

Amirani · 04-08-2013 05:24PM

Gatling wrote: »

If you take a life you invalidate your right to life

According to who? What if it's unintentional taking of life? What if it's taking of life by necessity? Who gives you the right to decide any of these things when the Irish people have decided otherwise?

Chancer3001 · 04-08-2013 05:24PM

Gatling wrote: »

If you take a life you invalidate your right to life

insert controversial abortion reference

Amirani · 04-08-2013 05:26PM

Norwesterner wrote: »

there is very little moral wriggle room between taking someones life and locking them in a cell for the rest of their life.
Capital punishment in some cases makes good economic sense.
Almost 100k per year to keep one prisoner.

Why do people never read links that people post? The financial argument makes no sense: http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/issues/death-penalty/us-death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost

Gatling · 04-08-2013 05:26PM

Take our laws murder get you 7 -15 years in prison if your lucky,

Telling a parent that a child's life or an adults life is only worth 7+ years is a bigger crime

Amirani · 04-08-2013 05:28PM

Gatling wrote: »

Take our laws murder get you 7 -15 years in prison if your lucky,

Telling a parent that a child's life or an adults life is only worth 7+ years is a bigger crime

That's blatantly just sensationalism.

Gatling · 04-08-2013 05:31PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

That's blatantly just sensationalism.

Really based off what exactly

State sponsored murder isn't

04-08-2013 05:32PM

What are the benefits of the death penalty?

Norwesterner · 04-08-2013 05:34PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

Why do people never read links that people post? The financial argument makes no sense: http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/issues/death-penalty/us-death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost

Thats smoke and mirrors.
The death penalty does not cost millions of dollars.
Repeated appeals and high salaries for lawyers do.
That can be easily remedied by changing the legal process.
The death penalty costs whatever a bullet costs.
Your link is an attempt to muddy the debate with chicannery.

Amirani · 04-08-2013 05:34PM

Gatling wrote: »

Really based off what exactly

State sponsored murder isn't

Murder under Irish law carries a life sentence, which is more than just whatever is served in prison. Most murderers serve far longer than the period of time you're using as hyperbole.

How is an execution not state-sponsored murder?

Amirani · 04-08-2013 05:35PM

Norwesterner wrote: »

Thats smoke and mirrors.
The death penalty does not cost millions of dollars.
Repeated appeals and high slaries for lawyers do.
That can be easily remedied by changing the legal process.
The death penalty costs whatever a bullet costs.
Your link is an attempt to muddy the debate with chicannery.

So we'll remove the appeals process from our criminal justice system? What a fantastic friggin idea. :rolleyes:

Would you support the reintroduction of the death penalty?

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