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Minimum Alcohol pricing

  • 03-08-2013 09:31PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Just a quick question. Since the gov wanted minimum pricing on alcohol, prices have been going up weekly in our local Tesco. Is there a new tax? were is this money going ? please don't say just to the supermarkets.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Just a quick question. Since the gov wanted minimum pricing on alcohol, prices have been going up weekly in our local Tesco. Is there a new tax? were is this money going ? please don't say just to the supermarkets.

    That's 2 questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Just a quick question. Since the gov wanted minimum pricing on alcohol, prices have been going up weekly in our local Tesco. Is there a new tax? were is this money going ? please don't say just to the supermarkets.

    Just to supermarkets.

    did that hurt much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Haven't noticed it myself.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    I used to drink Tuborg up until a month ago and that used to be €6 for 6 cans, now it is €8.75, insane for that cheap made drink. It's dearer than budweiser even. The money is going to the greedy producers of the alcoholic beverage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭hfallada


    I think drink companies want higher profits since the economy isn't as ****ed as it used to be, but still is pretty ****. Like superquinn no longer stocks the bargain €5 wines as they said its customers wanted higher quality €8-10 wines.

    I kinda have gone off pissy beer at a stupid price. €1,90 for a can a beer that is barely drinkable or €1,25 for a can of eastern European beer that isn't drinkable, but at least it's cheap


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    zenno wrote: »
    I used to drink Tuborg up until a month ago and that used to be €6 for 6 cans, now it is €8.75, insane for that cheap made drink. It's dearer than budweiser even. The money is going to the greedy producers of the alcoholic beverage.

    hmmm so no extra tax that at least could help the hospitals ? what's the point then. Thought putting up the price was under the guise of being good for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭BluesBerry


    Aldi have the best drink they do a lovely bottle of red/white/rose wine for 3.99 with no added pretentious ****e

    the pear cider is nice too

    Tesco can go f uck them selves with their price rises only then to pretend they have a "sale" when they have been ripping us of all along


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    hmmm so no extra tax that at least could help the hospitals ? what's the point then. Thought putting up the price was under the guise of being good for you

    They put the price up originally to stop young people purchasing it, but we all know that was a lie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    hmmm so no extra tax that at least could help the hospitals ? what's the point then. Thought putting up the price was under the guise of being good for you
    I think they're going for "the good for you by being more expensive so people should be buying less, but really, some people are probably just going to buy their kids less food instead and we'll ignore that instead of doing some actually effective" approach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Katunga


    Having a minimum alcohol is not going to mean that people will drink less. that's like saying the people in Dublin would drink less than the rest of the country because it costs more in general to drink in Pub's in Dublin.



    I know some pub in Dublin are cheap like Dicey's


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    What gets me is every month or so you see a deal say in Tuborg for 6 for €7 and the following week they up the price to €8.75 lol thinking people will still purchase it at that price.

    It's the same with all cans of beer. Well Tuborg just lost another customer as i won't pay that price and most folk won't either, this is what greed does to them :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Can't answer your question.

    However, Tesco drove me to Aldi, where I see considerably more stable pricing.

    As already posted the Tesco prices I can concur. Now you might or might not like Aldi's beer, Galahad is just under €20 a slab.

    I used to drink Tuborg from Tesco at exactly €20 a slab but left when it then to €30

    And we are all being hoodwinked as my wife got Heineken from our local pub off license for a €1 a can last weekend.

    That effectively means that Aldi are charging a premium for "cheap" beer, given that I think everyone would consider Heineken a premium product and your local bar should be the MOST expensive ~ it's a question, so it hangs there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    Have to say I was home recently and FFS, the price of drink is astranomical.

    I have to say when it comes to pubs, where I live (the netherlands) it's pretty much like for like, maybe in some places a bit more expensive in Irl...

    But off license drink is a rip off. I can get a crate of beer (24 bottles) for between 5-13 euro depending on the brand, and the 5euro stuff is still good stuff. I bought a box of 20 Bavaria (which is make locally for me) in Tesco and it cost me 13 euro, here a crate of 24 costs me 8euro.

    Now granted we have to pay what is know as Statie Geld, but that's deposit money on the crate it amounts to 3.90euro, and you get that back when you bring the bottle and crate back so you have the statie geld for your next crate.

    EDIT: I should also say, that in Lidl, the 6 pack of Perlenbacher (nice beer) in Irl is 6.99 here it's 3.95


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    I'm glad I live somewhere where I can get a decent 6-pack for €3 and then get money back for returning the empties :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    jester77 wrote: »
    I'm glad I live somewhere where I can get a decent 6-pack for €3 and then get money back for returning the empties :)

    I wish i was where you are with that price, 6 for €3 that's very good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Katunga


    Dicey's in Dublin sell's bottle and pints for €2 on Sunday night even Desperados for that price, you pay that in Tesco for Desperados on offer. If one pub in Dublin can charge this price for pints and Bottle why the hell do most charge 2.5 times that or more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭beano345


    My local sells a pint of tuborg for 2.70! Tesco were nearly selling drink at wholesale prices for a while even if they made 5c on a can with so many stores they'd still make a good profit


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    http://alcoholireland.ie/uncategorized/decision-not-to-increase-excise-on-alcohol-a-%E2%80%98lost-opportunity%E2%80%99/
    In the past 19 years, there have only been three increases in excise duty – cider (2001), spirits (2002) and wine (October 2008), the last excise duty increase on beer was in 1994. Take beer for example, tax as a percentage of price fell from 37% in 1994 to around 29% in 2007.

    Actually since 1994 the excise duty on some beers have dropped

    Section 78A of the 2003 Act provides for a relief, of 50% of the Alcohol Products Tax
    paid at the rate for Beer exceeding 2.8% vol.

    Reduced rates of Alcohol Products Tax apply since 15 October 2008 for mid-strength Beer
    and mid-strength Cider & Perry, of an alcoholic strength not exceeding 2.8% alcohol by
    volume.

    beer rates
    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/duties/excise-duty-rates.html
    Exceeding 1.2% volume but not exceeding 2.8% volume 9.56 per hectolitre per cent of alcohol in the beer
    Exceeding 2.8% volume 19.13 per hectolitre per cent of alcohol in the beer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    jester77 wrote: »
    I'm glad I live somewhere where I can get a decent 6-pack for €3 and then get money back for returning the empties :)

    The record, in Berlin, is 27c a bottle.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭camel jockey


    Don't consume alcohol so don't care. Sorry OP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭Mozzeltoff


    Don't consume alcohol so don't care. Sorry OP.

    So what was the point of you commenting then? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭camel jockey


    Mozzeltoff wrote: »
    So what was the point of you commenting then? :rolleyes:

    What's the point of you quoting me? :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭Mozzeltoff


    Because I felt like it! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭camel jockey


    Mozzeltoff wrote: »
    Because I felt like it! :P

    Snap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    seems the cheepo larger/beers are now becoming more expensive than the so called premium ones. I remember when Huzzar came out it used to be the cheapest vodka you could get now it’s similar in price to Smirnoff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭R019912


    I've noticed they increased Vratislav in Tesco from 99c to €1.19...robbery!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Christ the Redeemer


    zenno wrote: »
    I used to drink Tuborg up until a month ago and that used to be €6 for 6 cans, now it is €8.75, insane for that cheap made drink. It's dearer than budweiser even. The money is going to the greedy producers of the alcoholic beverage.

    It's also nicer than budweiser.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Prices in Tesco have been ridiculous for the past few months. This time last year their world beers were 5 for €10. A couple if months later the same beers were 4 for €11 and since March they've been 3 for €7.

    The price of cans have had similar increases. 4 cans of Miller were €5 for a long time and now they're up at €2 a can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭Koptain Liverpool


    Alcohol in Ireland is cheaper than it has ever been.
    Ten years ago it was €2+ for a can of any half decent beer with the cheap options being six dutch gold for £5.

    Now you can regularly get a crate of Carlsberg etc for €1 a can and can get various other six packs for 6-7 quid. How much bloody cheaper do you want it? 50c a can? 25c a can?

    And this is without even talking about the selection of decent craft beers available at reasonable prices in various places nowadays


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Alcohol in Ireland is cheaper than it has ever been.
    Ten years ago it was €2+ for a can of any half decent beer with the cheap options being six dutch gold for £5.

    so why are ppl going up north to buy booze. as for the south being cheap . why are we one on the most expensive places in the EU to buy Alcohol ?


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