What gave Gaybo the right to be condescending to a single mother on The Late Late

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

There's been a lot of revisionism on Byrne. He took on the church when nobody else did. Good interviewer too.

In this case he liked Casey and while nobody doubted the parentage the question was how big an issue was this. It was an adult relationship.

And was bay's water ever red light?

It was huge back in the day.Priests were fawned upon Bishops were akin to gods you kissed their rings when you met them,for a Bishop to have a child back then was unbelieveable for many people even though many local priests at the time had a "reputation"but going public with Bishop Casey was a game changer.

jjpep wrote: »

Yeah, it is a little bit of a time warp this tread... I'm going on memory because the last time I saw gay Byrne on the late late would have been the mid 90's. Maybe I'd have a different take on him now but really my overriding memory of him was constantly thinking 'prick' while he was talking.

When I hear him now talk about drivers he's unbelievably condescending. He even looks at people condescendingly it seems.

Here's a good interview for it's time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjWTT8Q8nN0

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

You've been sitting on this for a while.

I'm amazed at how angry I am. I wanted to hang Casey and I despised the vast majority that proclaimed him a saint ~ at the time, all those feelings, I have again now.

I will never forget that interview.

In my opinion it was the epitome of everything that was wrong with Ireland at the time.

I was mortified watching it. And Gay's smug righteous attitude towards Annie Murphy damaged his credibility for me in my eyes. I thought it was awful and, downright, disrespectful........ But I remember the Mammy's on my street delighted "he gave her what she deserved".......I think we now know better.

It galls me to think I was at the Galway mass and he and that other hypocrite Michael Cleary preaching to us all at the youth mass. I don't care about the fact they had families but their righteous preaching was utter falsehood. If they were real men they would have looked after their families instead of putting themselves on a pedestal.

All that was wrong with the chrurch, please God it will never happen again.

Ah jaysus, I'm disturbed that 1992 is considered to be firmly in the category of "yore" now. Surely it was only yesterday?! :P

Anyway, as others have pointed out, the early 90s were not the 50s. Young people back then were mostly doing what young people are doing now, believe it or not. With a few more practical impediments, such as condoms still only being available in chemists, and fewer electronic devices. But, as another poster observed, I think it was indeed the beginning of the end for the Catholic Church in this country - the first "unmasking" of a senior cleric and a glimpse at the dark underbelly of a once all-powerful institution. That unmasking continues today.

The point Mohican is making though, as I understand it, is not really about Casey's "crimes" and his degree of culpability relative to the subsequently exposed criminal barbarity of some of his fellow religious. The point is the attitude of Gay Byrne to his interviewee. As I recall, Annie Murphy was an unfailingly dignified and brave woman. Byrne was, as usual, a smug, condescending a-hole. He has form, in fairness. Anybody remember his interview with Jimmy Nail or with the woman from Fair City who had lost loads of weight? To name just two.

Still, it's reassuring to know that we only got two or three pages before somebody wheeled out the "these damn sluts should just keep their legs closed, rabble, rabble" line, accompanied by the standard plaintive hand-wringing of the "can't people just lay off the poor, embattled Church?" brigade. All is right with the world this August night;).

grey_so_what wrote: »

All that was wrong with the chrurch, please God it will never happen again.

See, this is the very seeds to allow the Church to rebuild, you still believe, you are still on the hook, they can still reel you in.

Despite all you said and it was a fine post, you ruin it by calling on their invention to subdue and manipulate mankind and they are shouting "YES, we will be back, they still believe in God we are invincible!"

Hallelujah the Heaven's gates are open and all are welcome

CroatoanCat wrote: »

Still, it's reassuring to know that we only got two or three pages before somebody wheeled out the "these damn sluts should just keep their legs closed, rabble, rabble" line, accompanied by the standard plaintive hand-wringing of the "can't people just lay off the poor, embattled Church?" brigade. All is right with the world this August night;).

For After Hours, this must make a record. And the quality of postings is above average, IMO. Too.

OH right, school and college are on holidays, that explains it!

Red Nissan wrote: »

Set yourself up as a new religion. If one studies hard, one will find that Christ never actually started a Church. Peter, his third in command set his wife Magdalene and daughter Sarah adrift as he [Peter] would not submit to a woman [not uncommon at that time, or even today in that part of the world]

Peter's church was destroyed and the Roman's created the RCC along with it's pomp and ceremony that we see today and it's pedophilia, research some of the Roman Emperor's and that is the founding on which the RCC is actually based on.

It's not Christ's Church, it never was, but it is based on his philosophy and personality to hoodwink the innocent into believing it was. The Muslims were amongst the first. but not the very first to see what was happening in Rome, albeit, it took them 350 years to figure it out, they did, we have had 2,000 years and some of the most outrageous episodes in history, genocide, ethnic cleansing, crusades, brothels, orphanages, and so on, it's all there.

Make a new Church and carry on your good work, but just not in God's name.

No comment. Really.

infosys wrote: »

Why no comment? My understanding of history the post was much more accurate than the history many would have us believe about the origins of the Christian Church. In the very early church Christ was depicted with a wand for a reason.

No-one can undo the past. Lots of good people do really good charitable work for little or no thanks, they seldom get no thanks, I can't pontificate about the Church of old, I'd rather praise the men and women who do good. It's not so hard to believe they are out there. I'm not bashing anyone here. It was a thread about Gay Byrne and his treatment of Annie Murphy after all.

grey_so_what wrote: »

It was a thread about Gay Byrne and his treatment of Annie Murphy after all.

Jesus, don't give him any more credit, your new religion started on the Late Late Show.

Red Nissan wrote: »

Jesus, don't give him any more credit, your new religion started on the Late Late Show.

Send your money to me........Bunny Carr..............


***If you don't remember then...........you are way to young.......***

I remember that interview. I didn't see it as Gay Byrne defending the church.

Casey was a friend of his. Annie Murphy had an affair with him and a son. She then went public with the affair and destroyed his career and life. As far as I can recall Casey had not acted that dishonorably.

He embezzled chuch funds because she was demanding large sums of money from him to stay silent and d it was the only way he could get it.

I see the interview as Byrnes annoyance at a woman who had gone public to destroy the life of a friend of his.

Religious hypropricy deserved to be exposed but given the subsequent revelations Casey was far from the worst of the those that serve the catholic church.