Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

maximoose · 01-08-2013 03:42PM

wawaman wrote: »

Ill give you a clue Arsene, he will play in blue, his last name starts with H and ends with N.

edit: damn you and your edit!

Marty McFly · 01-08-2013 03:43PM

AdamD wrote: »

DC ‏@DLDN22 25m
Arsenal have been told to up their bid for Suarez to £50m & Liverpool will sell. Suarez keeping quiet to allow #lfc to negotiate a fee. #afc

One things for sure; if Suarez doesn't happen Dean and Geoff will have lost whatever credibility they had. The clubs backed themselves into a corner where Suarez is seemingly the only target left, will they go up to 50m?

In fairness I don't think it will ruin there credibility they both called the Suarez bids before anyone else got hold of it, in fact geoff said a 40 million bid on Monday the only part he got wrong was the bid was made on a Tuesday.

If Spurs loose Bale regardless of who they sign they will be a weaker side, so far none of the signings they have made make me fearful.

I'm with emerginstar I think we will see signings would it have been better early on obviously yes but once we get the players in that is the main thing now is not the time to be panicking.

There's a lot of new regular posters in here the last few weeks I wonder will they still hang around when the window closes and if we have made new signing or they only in for the ride when they can be negative.

maximoose · 01-08-2013 03:44PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

If Spurs loose Bale

And that looks more and more like a certainty by the day

Gringo180 · 01-08-2013 03:45PM

I'll lose the plot if we don't sign 3 or 4 players honestly. We are a laughing stock at the minute, what club sells there best players to there nearest rivals and then doesn't replace them and when they do replace them its a year too late so were always trying to play catch up in terms of putting together a squad that has a realistic chance of winning silverware and mounting a title challenge

:rolleyes::(

Gringo180 · 01-08-2013 03:46PM

maximoose wrote: »

And that looks more and more like a certainty by the day

But they will invest the money into there squad and be more of a threat, unlike us who would rather have the £££££ sitting in the bank :rolleyes:

seklly · 01-08-2013 03:55PM

Basically every question on that hangout was what's your favourite holiday destination?/what's your favourite country?/which country has best fans? etc. Mainly travel related stuff!!

Soups123 · 01-08-2013 04:00PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

But they will invest the money into there squad and be more of a threat, unlike us who would rather have the £££££ sitting in the bank :rolleyes:

Spurs are more a selling club than us, we had had to do it the passed couple of years but the noises are now that has changed.

Spurs have been a selling club for a lot longer. They have lost Ade and Bale from the first 11 (& Gallas) so they are weakened. Adding in the 3 they have signed the will be weaker than last year I believe.

I will moan about signings if at the end of the window it wasnt done. More than happy to wait a few more weeks if it meant getting a Suarez or two in.

Hyzepher · 01-08-2013 04:08PM

I'd be interested in hearing how some people might have spent our reported £70m.

List out the players who have transferred so far - with the price they went for and an idea how they would fit into the team

L'prof · 01-08-2013 04:22PM

Hyzepher wrote: »

I'd be interested in hearing how some people might have spent our reported £70m.

List out the players who have transferred so far - with the price they went for and an idea how they would fit into the team

Don't be ridiculous. We don't need to spend £70m, but we definitely need to spend. We've let go of over 20 players and signed 1. Our squad was weak last season and is even weaker now! Plenty of players that have already moved and that still remain at theirs clubs could contribute to our squad.

Hyzepher · 01-08-2013 04:27PM

L'prof wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous. We don't need to spend £70m, but we definitely need to spend. We've let go of over 20 players and signed 1. Our squad was weak last season and is even weaker now! Plenty of players that have already moved and that still remain at theirs clubs could contribute to our squad.

You're right.

My post was only meant as an aside just to see what combination of players we could have gotten for that amount - not that we SHOULD have gotten them or that we should have spent 70m on whoever just for the sake of it.

I meant it as just a bit of fun.

L'prof · 01-08-2013 04:33PM

Hyzepher wrote: »

You're right.

My post was only meant as an aside just to see what combination of players we could have gotten for that amount - not that we SHOULD have gotten them or that we should have spent 70m on whoever just for the sake of it.

I meant it as just a bit of fun.

Ah right, fair enough. Picked up on the tone of your post all wrong so! On my phone right now, so I can't do a list myself.

newbie2 · 01-08-2013 04:35PM

What players do we think will be brought up from the reserves this year? Eisfeld, akpom ?
Is this wenger's plan after dropping a load of the dead wood?

gosplan · 01-08-2013 04:38PM

Hyzepher wrote: »

You're right.

My post was only meant as an aside just to see what combination of players we could have gotten for that amount - not that we SHOULD have gotten them or that we should have spent 70m on whoever just for the sake of it.

I meant it as just a bit of fun.

No you've a good point.

Very few players gone anywhere that we had a realistic chance of getting that would also have improved the first 11

Gringo180 · 01-08-2013 04:47PM

Soups123 wrote: »

Spurs are more a selling club than us, we had had to do it the passed couple of years but the noises are now that has changed.

Spurs have been a selling club for a lot longer. They have lost Ade and Bale from the first 11 (& Gallas) so they are weakened. Adding in the 3 they have signed the will be weaker than last year I believe.

I will moan about signings if at the end of the window it wasnt done. More than happy to wait a few more weeks if it meant getting a Suarez or two in.

I agree to a point but any player Spurs seem to buy it is to strengthen there team whereas we seem to be buying to replace players who have gone out. This year is our big opportunity to strengthen as it is very unlikely we are losing key players like the past few seasons, I am just annoyed and rightly so that we are leaving it so late in the window. We should of had our targets for the this summer at the turn of last year, so we would have had the benefit of getting the new players in early and a pre season under there belt at the club!!

Drexel · 01-08-2013 04:49PM

newbie2 wrote: »

What players do we think will be brought up from the reserves this year? Eisfeld, akpom ?
Is this wenger's plan after dropping a load of the dead wood?

Akpom I thought looked like he could step up. Only seen some preseason friendlies tho.

Is there loads of players missing from the academy team on Arsenal.com?

imtdub · 01-08-2013 04:50PM

Linekar on spurs new signing... "A lot of dosh for a 28 year old who is not one of the world's elite strikers, but Soldado will score goals! And more if Bale stays."

Drexel · 01-08-2013 04:52PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

I agree to a point but any player Spurs seem to buy it is to strengthen there team whereas we seem to be buying to replace players who have gone out. This year is our big opportunity to strengthen as it is very unlikely we are losing key players like the past few seasons, I am just annoyed and rightly so that we are leaving it so late in the window. We should of had our targets for the this summer at the turn of last year, so we would have had the benefit of getting the new players in early and a pre season under there belt at the club!!

Spurs lost Modric and Van Der Vart and replaced them with Holby and Dempsey. Hardly made their team stronger!!

Gringo180 · 01-08-2013 04:55PM

jonny666 wrote: »

Spurs lost Modric and Van Der Vart and replaced them with Holby and Dempsey. Hardly made their team stronger!!

Dembele, Sigurdsson, Lloris, Adebayor, Vertongen, Parker.

Marty McFly · 01-08-2013 04:57PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Dembele, Sigurdsson, Lloris, Adebayor, Vertongen, Parker.

And out of all them the only one who I reckon would be a good addition to our squad is Vertonghen who bottled the chance of joining Arsenal because he didn't fancy the prospect of having to fight for a place in the team which says all you need to know about his ambition.

Drexel · 01-08-2013 04:57PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Dembele, Sigurdsson, Lloris, Adebayor, Vertongen, Parker.

haha they can keep all them. Lloris is the only one id want. Actually Vertongen as well but i have a feeling our own Belgian will have a stormer (if he's not injured). The rest of them players are ****e

Edit: Just seen above. Forgot about Vertongen not wanting to fight for a spot. Id worry about a player like that. If a center back gets complacent youre in trouble

Gringo180 · 01-08-2013 05:03PM

Its not the point lads, the point I made was they have been strengthening all the time while we have been only replacing (with inferior players may I add)

And I am pretty sure Dembele, Vertonghen and Lloris would easily get into our squad and definitely 2 of them would start for us.

Marty McFly · 01-08-2013 05:08PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Its not the point lads, the point I made was they have been strengthening all the time while we have been only replacing (with inferior players may I add)

And I am pretty sure Dembele, Vertonghen and Lloris would easily get into our squad and definitely 2 of them would start for us.

So they have been strengthening with player who wouldn't make our squad? Oooh lets be fearful of Spurs so :rolleyes:.

None of them would start for us, I do like Vertonghen but with Merts and Kos we had the second best defence in the league so no to Vertonghen.

I like a lot really rate Scez so I would still have him as a our no1 but admitedly Loris would be a good signing.

And who exactly would you have Dembele ahead of?

There is a reason Arsenal have finished ahead of Spurs consistently for years even last year when they had there best player in my living memory could they not overtake us, stop trying to build Spurs as this almighty squad of players and a club who we should aspire to, they are an inferior club in every way.

Gringo180 · 01-08-2013 05:10PM

Since 2005 we have a net spend of minus 35 million :eek: Its a testament to how well the manger has done and to how little the club has spent :rolleyes:

bad2dabone · 01-08-2013 05:11PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

stop trying to build Spurs as this almighty squad of players and a club who we should aspire to, they are an inferior club in every way.

You're correct sir. I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Gringo180 · 01-08-2013 05:12PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

So they have been strengthening with player who wouldn't make our squad? Oooh lets be fearful of Spurs so :rolleyes:.

None of them would start for us, I do like Vertonghen but with Merts and Kos we had the second best defence in the league so no to Vertonghen.

I like a lot really rate Scez so I would still have him as a our no1 but admitedly Loris would be a good signing.

And who exactly would you have Dembele ahead of?

There is a reason Arsenal have finished ahead of Spurs consistently for years even last year when they had there best player in my living memory could they not overtake us, stop trying to build Spurs as this almighty squad of players and a club who we should aspire to, they are an inferior club in every way.

Jaysus that is the most biased post I think I have ever read mate, Chesney ahead of Lloris

Vertongen would easily start for us, if not in the centre of defense the he can play in front of the back 4 as the holding midfielder. But I would have him over Mert if im being honest.

Marty McFly · 01-08-2013 05:18PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Jaysus that is the most biased post I think I have ever read mate, Chesney ahead of Lloris Vertongen would easily start for us, if not in the centre of defense the he can play in front of the back 4 as the holding midfielder. But I would have him over Mert if im being honest.

It's not biased it's the truth, I would have Sczez over Loris yes apart from his blip were he got dropped Sczez had a very good season and pulled off some brilliant match saving saves and he is only going to get better.

I wouldn't I like Vertonghen as player but I dont want to mess with a defence who had the second best in the league why would you do something so silly?

Take of your Arsenal bashing negativity glasses for a second everything at the club is not doom and gloom yes we do need strengthening but to talk up Spurs as an argument against Arsenal is plain stupid, at least use a club who have regulary finished ahead of us such as United but to use Spurs in constant Arsenal bashing posts is stupid imo since there main focus for years seems to have been to finish above us never mind winning trophies and they have failed year after year.

01-08-2013 05:23PM

Hyzepher wrote: »

You're right.

My post was only meant as an aside just to see what combination of players we could have gotten for that amount - not that we SHOULD have gotten them or that we should have spent 70m on whoever just for the sake of it.

I meant it as just a bit of fun.

Theoretically:
Higuain 34m - was sold for that
Fellaini 22m - release clause
Versatile defender 8-10m
4-6m left

That would leave us relatively sorted imo, maybe lacking a winger.

gosplan · 01-08-2013 05:23PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Its not the point lads, the point I made was they have been strengthening all the time while we have been only replacing (with inferior players may I add)

And I am pretty sure Dembele, Vertonghen and Lloris would easily get into our squad and definitely 2 of them would start for us.

It's pretty easy to strengthen when you've Huddlestone and Jenas in midfield and Defoe up front.

Gringo180 · 01-08-2013 05:26PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

It's not biased it's the truth, I would have Sczez over Loris yes apart from his blip were he got dropped Sczez had a very good season and pulled off some brilliant match saving saves and he is only going to get better.

I wouldn't I like Vertonghen as player but I dont want to mess with a defence who had the second best in the league why would you do something so silly?

Take of your Arsenal bashing negativity glasses for a second everything at the club is not doom and gloom yes we do need strengthening but to talk up Spurs as an argument against Arsenal is plain stupid, at least use a club who have regulary finished ahead of us such as United but to use Spurs in constant Arsenal bashing posts is stupid imo since there main focus for years seems to have been to finish above us never mind winning trophies and they have failed year after year.

But does it not frighten you how close they are getting to us, it went down to the last game of the season to finish ahead of them ffs :eek: When are you going to wake up and admit that this season just could be the season that they do us, especially as we see them getting there business done before us yet again with the signings of Paulinho, Chadli and Soldado, when we are going about making a mockery of ourselves under bidding for players as usual :rolleyes: We have let go 34 players in the past year, and guess how many we have brought in, 5 fcuking 5:mad:

01-08-2013 05:29PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

But does it not frighten you how close they are getting to us, it went down to the last game of the season to finish ahead of them ffs :eek: When are you going to wake up and admit that this season just could be the season that they do us, especially as we see them getting there business done before us yet again with the signings of Paulinho, Chadli and Soldado, when we are going about making a mockery of ourselves under bidding for players as usual :rolleyes: We have let go 34 players in the past year, and guess how many we have brought in, 5 fcuking 5:mad:

Don't worry about them, blah blah, not worth talking about, blah blah blah, they'll never finish ahead of us etc.

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