Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

Drexel · 01-08-2013 01:04PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

As opposed to us, who can attract them but will never pay their club's valuation?

We got Santi last year. I think we'll pay what is needed this year. 40 million was not a bad bid for Suarez. If it was Chlesea/Spurs/UTD bidding that much you'd be saying fair play to them. They are trying to buy Suarez

speedboatchase wrote: »

Giroud didn't cost 4m. Soldado is twice his price and got double the amount of league goals Giroud got last year. And why should fans just accept that Spurs now have a better striker than us, without CL and probably with half the initial summer budget that we have.

I dont get what you mean by the 4million

cathalio11 · 01-08-2013 01:06PM

Trying to compare Giroud to Soldado is silly.

Soldado has never played a single game in the Premier League (praying that he didn't have a fling with Everton 10 years ago).

Meanwhile in Giroud's first season, he gave a very sound goals and assists return. Soldado will be doing very well if he can match that in his first season.

Looper007 · 01-08-2013 01:09PM

cathalio11 wrote: »

Trying to compare Giroud to Soldado is silly.

Soldado has never played a single game in the Premier League (praying that he didn't have a fling with Everton 10 years ago).

Meanwhile in Giroud's first season, he gave a very sound goals and assists return. Soldado will be doing very well if he can match that in his first season.

Giroud is good solid player but he's not a striker who score you 35 a season. That's what we need, the guy who takes that one chance at Old Trafford and knocks three past a Cardiff or Hull. It takes Giroud three to four chances before he scores.

Soups123 · 01-08-2013 01:15PM

Looper007 wrote: »

Giroud is good solid player but he's not a striker who score you 35 a season. That's what we need, the guy who takes that one chance at Old Trafford and knocks three past a Cardiff or Hull. It takes Giroud three to four chances before he scores.

Giroud has shown enough to suggest he could become a 25+ goals a season man. If he is the main man this year I think he will deliver. But that will mean playing to his quality and bringing in the players in other areas.

Without a doubt though another top class striker is required

ugsparky · 01-08-2013 01:30PM

I thought we would go for Higuan but I did say that it's all about balance in the team. What players compliment what we have already ? Not sure that Fellani fits this shape - maybe as a replacement for Arteta and use Arteta more in a forward role - allowing Arsene to use Rosicky/Arteta as replacements for Jack/Ox or Ramsey during games or when we have CL & PL games in quick succession. Is Sanogo the replacement for Gervinho ? I'm not sure that Suarez is what we want either - he's not a prolific goalscorer. I'm thinking we'll be looking at a player who plays between a striker and the midfield who can score and create (Rooney or Fellani ?). TBH I am struggling to think of players who can fit our system without changing the system entirely ...

Mickeroo · 01-08-2013 01:33PM

ugsparky wrote: »

I thought we would go for Higuan but I did say that it's all about balance in the team. What players compliment what we have already ? Not sure that Fellani fits this shape - maybe as a replacement for Arteta and use Arteta more in a forward role - allowing Arsene to use Rosicky/Arteta as replacements for Jack/Ox or Ramsey during games or when we have CL & PL games in quick succession. Is Sanogo the replacement for Gervinho ? I'm not sure that Suarez is what we want either - he's not a prolific goalscorer. I'm thinking we'll be looking at a player who plays between a striker and the midfield who can score and create (Rooney or Fellani ?). TBH I am struggling to think of players who can fit our system without changing the system entirely ...

What makes you think Suarez isn't a prolific goal scorer?

bad2dabone · 01-08-2013 01:43PM

ugsparky wrote: »

Is Sanogo the replacement for Gervinho ?

Sanogo's more of a Giroud understudy, he's a tall athletic striker with a good burst of pace, a strong header and a good finisher. Reminds me of Benteke. He could be really really good, and for free he was a good signing. I'm hoping Gnabry and the likes replace Gervais.

Mickeroo · 01-08-2013 01:57PM

This is the news we've been waiting for. Apparently we've delayed the official team photo shoot for a week. 3 new players by next week lads

Hyzepher · 01-08-2013 01:58PM

Although I'm not losing faith just yet, but if Bale does leave Spurs then this summer will have dealt Arsenal the perfect conditions to push on towards winning something. All the teams above us have changed managers, and if we take Suarez then teams below us will either have changed manager (Everton) or lost a very important player in key positions (Bale/Suarez).

If there was ever a year to spend big then this is it. Conditions like this don't come around often.

I say spend the 45m+ on Suarez and find two more players to fill key positions for 35m+. In the long term it will be far better than spending 50m now and 30m next year

cathalio11 · 01-08-2013 02:05PM

Looper007 wrote: »

Giroud is good solid player but he's not a striker who score you 35 a season. That's what we need, the guy who takes that one chance at Old Trafford and knocks three past a Cardiff or Hull. It takes Giroud three to four chances before he scores.

I don't agree. All he has proven is that he's not a striker who will score 35 in his first season of English football.

He can only improve on this season and once he improves, he can very easily score a lot for us.

GavRedKing · 01-08-2013 02:14PM

If Real sign Bale then Liverpools last chance of getting Suarez out to a foreign team looks all but gone, theyed be wise to sell up to the highest and probably only bidder in England, you guys.

The longer it goes on the less time a replacement of any calibre can be found for Liverpool.

cathalio11 · 01-08-2013 02:16PM

Amazing, isn't it?

2 scenarios that could very well happen:

Real buy Bale and Arsenal then get Suarez.
Real don't get Bale so they sign Suarez.

Talk about season changers!?

speedboatchase · 01-08-2013 02:17PM

greendom wrote: »

The day you have one positive thing to day about Arsenal is the day I may treat your posts seriously. If there's a negative angle you have it covered.

I love the club but I can't stand our lack of ambition and paralysis in the transfer market. I'll be the first to celebrate on here when we start making signings, if or when that happens.

speedboatchase · 01-08-2013 02:21PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

If Real sign Bale then Liverpools last chance of getting Suarez out to a foreign team looks all but gone, theyed be wise to sell up to the highest and probably only bidder in England, you guys.

The longer it goes on the less time a replacement of any calibre can be found for Liverpool.

Didn't they reject our offer though? We'd need to make another bid either way. Didn't we make two bids of the same value for Schwarzer a few years ago? If Bale moves then it looks very possible if we want it, although we'll probably need £50m, hopefully with that including add-ons.

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 01-08-2013 02:22PM

We're after missing out on signing that lad from One Direction ffs :mad:

cathalio11 · 01-08-2013 02:23PM

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

We're after missing out on signing that lad from One Direction ffs :mad:

We have to stick to our wages structure. If we go splashing out 250k on him, there will be unrest among our other players.

speedboatchase · 01-08-2013 02:25PM

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

We're after missing out on signing that lad from One Direction ffs :mad:

Obviously readying a massive bid for Harry, then...

speedboatchase · 01-08-2013 02:36PM

Wenger's Google Hangout is starting shortly at this link:

https://plus.google.com/events/cdlgcu0rfr9mt5f0gq3q6vcqtkc?partnerid=gplp0

01-08-2013 02:37PM

jonny666 wrote: »

Back to Arsenal and some people on here need to really chill out. OK its not ideal to be getting players in late(its not even that late) but im confident we will get the players we need.

Players we need for what?

L'prof · 01-08-2013 02:41PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Wenger's Google Hangout is starting shortly at this link:

https://plus.google.com/events/cdlgcu0rfr9mt5f0gq3q6vcqtkc?partnerid=gplp0

It's saying 3 hours in the link on my phone, but I'm abroad so that might have something to do with it. How soon?

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 01-08-2013 02:47PM

L'prof wrote: »

It's saying 3 hours in the link on my phone, but I'm abroad so that might have something to do with it. How soon?

It's on now.

Here's the direct link I think
https://plus.google.com/102474946855971646805/posts/Me2r4ZaxqB2

speedboatchase · 01-08-2013 02:47PM

L'prof wrote: »

It's saying 3 hours in the link on my phone, but I'm abroad so that might have something to do with it. How soon?

Try this link, it's just begun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cyVJeZrHOU&sns=tw

Gringo180 · 01-08-2013 02:54PM

I think Wenger just shows too much faith and loyalty in his players, some who just aren't good enough for our club.

Soups123 · 01-08-2013 03:01PM

Hyzepher wrote: »

Although I'm not losing faith just yet, but if Bale does leave Spurs then this summer will have dealt Arsenal the perfect conditions to push on towards winning something. All the teams above us have changed managers, and if we take Suarez then teams below us will either have changed manager (Everton) or lost a very important player in key positions (Bale/Suarez).

If there was ever a year to spend big then this is it. Conditions like this don't come around often.

I say spend the 45m+ on Suarez and find two more players to fill key positions for 35m+. In the long term it will be far better than spending 50m now and 30m next year

Spurs arent a target, sure we have finished a head of them for x amount of years, losing Bale will just push them further beind. It shouldnt be a trigger for us to drive a push on.

Want to challenge for the title and compete with the top 3 is where we should be driving and reacting to not capitalising on a side that hasnt made CL for a number of years.

01-08-2013 03:05PM

Just caught the last question I'm guessing nothing was said about transfers?

Drexel · 01-08-2013 03:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Players we need for what?

To improve the first team.

L'prof · 01-08-2013 03:05PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Try this link, it's just begun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cyVJeZrHOU&sns=tw

Bah, unavailable on mobile. If there's a link with some quotes later on can somebody post it here. I'd be very grateful. Doubt there's much to be said though :-/

Hyzepher · 01-08-2013 03:06PM

Even as an Arsenal supporter that Hangout was boring

jester77 · 01-08-2013 03:22PM

Must be a setup, not a single question about transfers or the upcoming season

wawaman · 01-08-2013 03:31PM

Did anyone really think it would be any different? Same as the annual Q&A, questions are screened before hand so no naughty fans ask any real questions. FFS someone asked him in the hangout who he thought the biggest threat in the Emirates Cup is !!!?

Ill give you a clue Arsene, he will play in blue, his last name starts with H and ends with N.

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