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Danger781 · 31-07-2013 11:30AM

roryc wrote: »

Do you think Rooney leaving would make things better for Nani?

Not really.. Rooney doesn't like playing on the wing. He is best suited behind the striker, or even up front alongside him.

It would certainly make things easier for Kagawa. He'd finally get a chance to play in his true position rather than being pushed out left on the wing.

MagicIRL · 31-07-2013 11:56AM

The problem with Nani is, without form he's useless, and after scoring two goals against Crewe, you can hardly say he has it back. He's a big gamble for GW1/2/3 in my opinion. If he starts performing, then take a shot on him.

MagicIRL · 31-07-2013 12:02PM

I've done some adjusting to my own team without Bale, as lets face it, he won't be around come GW1.

I've got Cech in goal.

Coleman, Nastasic and Mertesacker make up my back three, assuming Nastasic recovers from his ankle injury in time.

Nolan, Hazard, Mirallas, Walcott and Kagawa make up my midfield, with Negredo and Lukaku playing up front.

Benched I have Boruc, Anelka, Turner and Turner.

The plan is, after GW1, Cech will go to Hart, and then for GW2, I can drop Lukaku if needed and pick up Berbatov, Wolfie, Hooper etc if he doesn't start (I reckon he's #1 at Chelsea up front this year)

Of course, all this can and will change if Soldado joins Spurs.

Mr.Prodston · 31-07-2013 12:21PM

@roryc I think for any United player that isn't RVP and De Gea we'll have to wait until after the Community Shield realistically to see how they shape up. I'd agree that you should wait and see how Nani does before putting him in. For that elusive .5 extra you could have Kagawa. You could do a lot worse than slot Nolan in for the first couple of weeks and bide your time with United's midfield.

roryc · 31-07-2013 12:22PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

I've done some adjusting to my own team without Bale, as lets face it, he won't be around come GW1.

I've got Cech in goal.

Coleman, Nastasic and Mertesacker make up my back three, assuming Nastasic recovers from his ankle injury in time.

Nolan, Hazard, Mirallas, Walcott and Kagawa make up my midfield, with Negredo and Lukaku playing up front.

Benched I have Boruc, Anelka, Turner and Turner.

The plan is, after GW1, Cech will go to Hart, and then for GW2, I can drop Lukaku if needed and pick up Berbatov, Wolfie, Hooper etc if he doesn't start (I reckon he's #1 at Chelsea up front this year)

Of course, all this can and will change if Soldado joins Spurs.

So compared to my team it would essentially RVP, Coutinho, Toure, (Dikgacoi) vs Negredo, Walcott, Nolan, Nastasic. I put Dikgacoi in brackets as he'll likely rarely play. Essentially you have more choice and a stronger bench by not having RVP.

It all depends on whether you think RVP will continue his form from last season. I was willing to risk not having him if Bale was in the game but if he goes I can't see how I can avoid RVP. I did it last season and it killed me. My bench will be weak and I'll have 4 strong midfielders compared to your 5, but this is fine as I'll likely play 3-4-3 most weeks. I have a feeling Anelka will do well this season and based on your squad you will have to drop one of your big attackers to the bench every week which detracts away from the cash saved by not having RVP.

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

@roryc I think for any United player that isn't RVP and De Gea we'll have to wait until after the Community Shield realistically to see how they shape up. I'd agree that you should wait and see how Nani does before putting him in. For that elusive .5 extra you could have Kagawa. You could do a lot worse than slot Nolan in for the first couple of weeks and bide your time with United's midfield.

Totally agree, just playing around with that position. I want someone in there between £5-£7.5m, but need a 'big' player as they will likely play every week alongside Hazard, Coutinho and Mirralas. I'd love to have Walcott but can't fit him in without taking away from elsewhere and I've tied down most other spots. He may come in for Hazard after GW1.

roryc · 31-07-2013 12:26PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

I've done some adjusting to my own team without Bale, as lets face it, he won't be around come GW1.

I've got Cech in goal.

Coleman, Nastasic and Mertesacker make up my back three, assuming Nastasic recovers from his ankle injury in time.

Nolan, Hazard, Mirallas, Walcott and Kagawa make up my midfield, with Negredo and Lukaku playing up front.

Benched I have Boruc, Anelka, Turner and Turner.

The plan is, after GW1, Cech will go to Hart, and then for GW2, I can drop Lukaku if needed and pick up Berbatov, Wolfie, Hooper etc if he doesn't start (I reckon he's #1 at Chelsea up front this year)

Of course, all this can and will change if Soldado joins Spurs.

So compared to my team it would essentially RVP, Coutinho, Toure, (Dikgacoi) vs Negredo, Walcott, Nolan, Nastasic. I put Dikgacoi in brackets as he'll likely rarely play. Essentially you have more choice and a stronger bench by not having RVP.

It all depends on whether you think RVP will continue his form from last season. I was willing to risk not having him if Bale was in the game but if he goes I can't see how I can avoid RVP. I did it last season and it killed me. My bench will be weak and I'll have 4 strong midfielders compared to your 5, but this is fine as I'll likely play 3-4-3 most weeks. I have a feeling Anelka will do well this season and based on your squad you will have to drop one of your big attackers to the bench every week which detracts away from the cash saved by not having RVP.

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

@roryc I think for any United player that isn't RVP and De Gea we'll have to wait until after the Community Shield realistically to see how they shape up. I'd agree that you should wait and see how Nani does before putting him in. For that elusive .5 extra you could have Kagawa. You could do a lot worse than slot Nolan in for the first couple of weeks and bide your time with United's midfield.

Totally agree, just playing around with that position. I want someone in there between £5-£7.5m, but need a solid player as they will likely play every week alongside Hazard, Coutinho and Mirallas. I'd love to have Walcott to complete the 'big 4' but can't fit him in without taking away from elsewhere and I've tied down most other spots. He may come in for Hazard after GW1. Nolan is on my radar but think he's overpriced at £7m compared to previous years, and Snodgrass won;t do as well this season with RVW and Hooper taking his attacking points.

MagicIRL · 31-07-2013 12:44PM

I've made a team incorporating RVP into it, and I think it does look a lot safer up front.

Essentially the same team as above, except in the middle I've got Hazard, Zaha, Mirallas and Walcott and upfront I've swapped Negredo for RVP. I also had to reshuffle the bench to free up some cash, but I should recoup that when I drop Hazard in GW3 and pick up Kagawa (if he starts)

Canyon86 · 31-07-2013 02:27PM

What ye reckon lads?

Mr.Prodston · 31-07-2013 02:43PM

Canyon86 wrote: »

What ye reckon lads?

Well you may have to plan without Bale which will free up a lot of cash for you thankfully. Newcastle have been leaking goals. If you want a 5.0 gk I'd choose Foster or for .5 extra Mignolet.

Jagielka's a waste with Coleman around, even Distin if you want a CB plus if Martinez plays 3 at the back you could look at Alcaraz. Baker may not be nailed on to start and against Chelsea and Arsenal you better hope he doesn't. Same goes for Whittaker and Blake. Whit has been starting Pre-season but thats because Mickey T (at a very nice 4.5 I must say, a real bargain) and Bassong are on their way back from Surgery thus having Martin fill in at CB.

Using perhaps 2.0 of the Bale money you can reform that defense and bring in somebody of your choosing from Walcott, Slva, Coutinho. Is Delph likely to play? if you could turn him into a rotation option with Koren you wouldn't be too badly off.

The forwards are hard to argue with but just be watchful of Bentekers and Lukaku. That's my opinion for what ever little it's worth

Canyon86 · 31-07-2013 02:45PM

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Well you may have to plan without Bale which will free up a lot of cash for you thankfully. Newcastle have been leaking goals. If you want a 5.0 gk I'd choose Foster or for .5 extra Mignolet.

Jagielka's a waste with Coleman around, even Distin if you want a CB plus if Martinez plays 3 at the back you could look at Alcaraz. Baker may not be nailed on to start and against Chelsea and Arsenal you better hope he doesn't. Same goes for Whittaker and Blake. Whit has been starting Pre-season but thats because Mickey T (at a very nice 4.5 I must say, a real bargain) and Bassong are on their way back from Surgery thus having Martin fill in at CB.

Using perhaps 2.0 of the Bale money you can reform that defense and bring in somebody of your choosing from Walcott, Slva, Coutinho. Is Delph likely to play? if you could turn him into a rotation option with Koren you wouldn't be too badly off.

The forwards are hard to argue with but just be watchful of Bentekers and Lukaku. That's my opinion for what ever little it's worth

Hi mate,

Thanks for your reply!

I ll have a fe changes there id say,, I included players without considering there previous championship backgrounds

Nice1 for the advice

Iused2likebusts · 31-07-2013 02:53PM

roryc wrote: »

Do you think Toure will nail down a spot for Liverpool right from the start? If he does I may look at fitting him in, decent price at £5m and Liverpool were solid last season.

As much as I think Terry is an absolute bargain at £6m this year, I think he'll be rested for the Villa game so he can face United, meaning his first four games could be Hull, blank, United(A), blank, Everton(A). Might have to take a wait and see approach with him - I think Cech might be the better defensive option for the opening DGW.

The Nani spot is up for grabs really but I want a 'big' midfielder in there. If Zaha looks like nailing down a spot I'll have him, and use the extra £1m to bump Toure up to Zabaleta. Mirallas and Anelka have really impressed me in pre-season, and if Bale goes I think these two are certs to be in my team.

Transfers would likely be:
GW1 - Cech out for Hart (Chelsea face United and City have Cardiff)
GW2 - Hazard out for Walcott OR Lukaku out for Berbs (saving £0.5m)

Would need to be wary of price changes though, if Walcott scores in GW1 at home to Aston Villa, his price will 100% rise. Also wary of starting with no City players...

How would people rate this team?

I like the team very close to what im aiming for.A couple of minor issues Regarding zabaleta Id adopt a wait and see approach with him. Richards is back fit now so there could be rotation there . I think hazard out is the most urgent chelsea transfer as his price will plummet. My GK plan is cech and boruc and play boruc gw 2 and 3( sunderland & norwich) and dont sell cech.I will reassess the GK situation in gw4 when I wildcard. I dont think cech will drop by more than .2 if at all. Regarding walcott he is a must have IMO so not having him in your team is the only real weakness I see.

roryc · 31-07-2013 03:31PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I like the team very close to what im aiming for.A couple of minor issues Regarding zabaleta Id adopt a wait and see approach with him. Richards is back fit now so there could be rotation there . I think hazard out is the most urgent chelsea transfer as his price will plummet. My GK plan is cech and boruc and play boruc gw 2 and 3( sunderland & norwich) and dont sell cech.I will reassess the GK situation in gw4 when I wildcard. I dont think cech will drop by more than .2 if at all. Regarding walcott he is a must have IMO so not having him in your team is the only real weakness I see.

Yeah there are a few spots on my team which I'm wary about:

Zabaleta/Toure/Terry
Nani/Zaha
Hazard
Anelka
Lukaku

I know its likely I won't get definitive proof of whether or not they are likely to start but I'll be paying close attention to pre-season friendlies and manager comments in the run up to August 17th. I don't mind taking a risk but don't want to end up taking a number of risks and struggling to field a team in GW3.

As for Walcott, if I get him in I'll need to downgrade Toure to a £4m/£4.5m, and that spot is marked for a regular 3rd defender spot behind Coleman and Mertesacker so I'd prefer someone solid. I don't think there's a lot between Coutinho and Walcott, and I'm looking at swapping Hazard out after GW1 unless he scores really highly.

MagicIRL · 31-07-2013 03:37PM

Anelka and Lukaku are the two best shouts for this year imo. Anelka is banging in goals left right and centre on pre-season. Lukaku was just savage for a fairly average WBA side last season. Ba was ok and Torres was muck for Chelsea to be fair, so Lukaku has to be #1.

manual_man · 31-07-2013 03:44PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Anelka and Lukaku are the two best shouts for this year imo. Anelka is banging in goals left right and centre on pre-season. Lukaku was just savage for a fairly average WBA side last season. Ba was ok and Torres was muck for Chelsea to be fair, so Lukaku has to be #1.

Lukaku i'd agree with, Anelka no. And basing decisions on pre-season has come to bite people in the ass before (Danny Graham, anyone remember??). Alot of pre-season games are against lower-league opposition or half-strength opposition. Anelka might prove me wrong, and i'd be willing to get him in, but for .5 more you can get someone like Rodriguez for Southampton who should start every week and showed some excellent form 2nd half of last season. Anelka is 34 remember, interesting to see how he fares in the fast-paced league matches. Definitely not starting with him, but will keep an eye on him

Danger781 · 31-07-2013 04:25PM

manual_man wrote: »

Definitely not starting with him, but will keep an eye on him

My thoughts exactly. He's proven in the PL so I'll be watching him to see how he does, but I doubt he'll make my team unless I need someone cheap

roryc · 31-07-2013 04:32PM

Parr or Chester? I'm leaning towards Parr for two reasons.

1. Better assist/goal potential
2. Better fixture in GW 3 when I am most likely to use him

I don't pretend to know much about wither of these other than I think Chester came through United, but then so did f**king everyone.

Mr.Prodston · 31-07-2013 04:34PM

roryc wrote: »

Parr or Chester? I'm leaning towards Parr for two reasons.

1. Better assist/goal potential
2. Better fixture in GW 3 when I am most likely to use him

I don't pretend to know much about wither of these other than I think Chester came through United, but then so did f**king everyone.

Is Parr a nailed on starter? I'd be leaning towards Chester myself as I reckon Hull should be more likely of a Cleanie under Bruce

dahat · 31-07-2013 08:04PM

So here we go,1st draft..

No RVP as i can WC him in,basically this is a team to take advantage of the DGW

http://gyazo.com/e41cc8b837ca6ffc077f6b8b6ed505d4

MagicIRL · 31-07-2013 08:22PM

I still am unsure if RVP justifies the 14m tag. Yes he'll score, but will he score 14mill worth? I'm thinking of playing a very strong 5 across midfield at all times, and then having a cheaper front two.

OneColdHand · 31-07-2013 08:43PM

dahat wrote: »

So here we go,1st draft..

No RVP as i can WC him in,basically this is a team to take advantage of the DGW

http://gyazo.com/e41cc8b837ca6ffc077f6b8b6ed505d4

Nice team. I'd be interested in hearing your strategy for GW2 and 3, as you will have 3 Chelsea and a Villa player in there.

I'm considering taking a punt on a Villa player (or two!), but unsure about what to do with them after the DGW.

I'm also thinking of starting without RVP, and getting him in the WC.

1mcampo1 · 01-08-2013 02:14AM

---> if/when Bale leaves

BAE Its either him or Dawson, And if Dawson plays, BAE could lose his place to Vertonghen
Azpilicueta or Terry/Cahill ?
Nolan was more so a second striker last year, so him down as a midfielder is a big bonus
Ruiz same goes for him. But with Fulham looking thes favourites to sign Bent...could change things
Jovetic looked very good vs Milan today (albeit a b-side)

roryc · 01-08-2013 11:04AM

The five people you have considered in bold wouldn't get near my team for what thats worth, bar possibly Nolan.

Copper_pipe · 01-08-2013 11:39AM

Planning without Bale.

Alrite Chief · 01-08-2013 12:31PM

Here it goes: First draft....

Edit ok well that image didn't display right haha!! How are you guys screen shotting?

wonski · 01-08-2013 12:48PM

Isn't Mirallas a steal at 7.5? Decided to put him instead of Ramires who was there only because of DGW.

Benteke is there only for DGW btw.

MagicIRL · 01-08-2013 12:49PM

wonski wrote: »

Isn't Mirallas a steal at 7.5? Decided to put him instead of Ramires who was there only because of DGW.

Benteke is there only for DGW btw.

Are you not concerned that you'll have to replace 4 players for GW3 given how poor your bench is?

Copper_pipe · 01-08-2013 12:50PM

Alrite Chief wrote: »

Here it goes: First draft....

Edit ok well that image didn't display right haha!! How are you guys screen shotting?

Download gyazo.

wonski · 01-08-2013 12:53PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Are you not concerned that you'll have to replace 4 players for GW3 given how poor your bench is?

Will put Boruc in goal with Norwich, so won't have to replace Cech.
This will leave me with 1 player not playing in GW3. Not too bad I think.
Hazard to Walcott later on.

MagicIRL · 01-08-2013 12:54PM

wonski wrote: »

Will put Boruc in goal with Norwich, so won't have to replace Cech.
This will leave me with 1 player not playing in GW3. Not too bad I think.

Hazard/Luiz/Benteke?

wonski · 01-08-2013 12:59PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Hazard/Luiz/Benteke?

Hazard to Walcott after GW1, Benteke transferred out after GW2. Luiz on bench for GW3. I may wait with transfers until GW2 ends so will have better knowledge who is to be transferred in.
I may leave Benteke out of my team, plenty of option for 9m, but this way it is 4 points guaranteed from him. Aston Villa has tough fixtures so they may not score at all.

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