Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

speedboatchase · 31-07-2013 07:52AM

I quite enjoyed this:

http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s378/st182947.htm

keano_afc · 31-07-2013 08:18AM

But in fairness, if the club come out and spout BS about them having loads of money and finally being in a position to back it up, you'd expect there to be some evidence of that by now. Instead we have the same intransigence. Yes they might pull something out of the bag, but the signings we need at CB, CM and CF wont all be completed by the start of the season, and I dont think saying that makes anyone a crybaby.

We're all fans and we all want to see the club do well. Nobody would disagree with that. I just want the club to back up what they said in May. They havent. Does anyone want to see us scrapping around on deadline day when we've had the whole summer to do business? Of course not. Bottom line is the teams around us have all strengthened (apart from United, who won the league in second gear) and we have let 20+ players go. Yes, we will probably do business. But there's still a sense of an opportunnity missed about this summer.

Corvo · 31-07-2013 08:21AM

liamygunner29 wrote: »

this is doing the rounds now and said to be leigt by that Dean lad who had to quit because the papers were hounding him for news.

Basically says that there is a clause that he can join a champions league team and liverpool are saying we are not in the champions league yet.
Take from it what you will, its actually an enjoyable read regardless of its legitimacy.

http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2013/7/27/luis-suarez-cesc-fabregas-and-wayne-rooney-what-is-their-value-and-are-they-worth-it-for-arsenal

He's a bit all over the place on the Rooney theory though. He mentions that he friends with Walcott etc. but it's been fairly widely reported that he is as close to John Terry and Ashely Cole as anyone else. Now I don't know any of those players personally obviously, but to me Theo would be as far away personality wise from the other two as possible!!

Still think Rooney will end up at Chelsea. Another team will likely have to fork out £30m + for him so for the extra £10+ you would get the player with more scope to improve ye in Suarez. Anyway, I think Wenger has set his sights on the Uruguayan and him alone.

j14 · 31-07-2013 08:28AM

Ok...so things have turned a litte sour with the Suarez deal so who else should we be looking at?

Rooney...IF he leaves Utd the only place I can see him going is Chelsea, I can't see him going abroad. I'd say if we just left him up front...no worrying about coming in MF to collect the ball that he could get 25 league goals this year. Fergie had him all over the place last year to accomodate RVP (boo...hiss...burn him........witch!).

Remy...I'm not too sure if the outcome of his alleged rape case is yet known but he is already living and settled in London had a good first season and is now down in the Championship plus we were linked with him in the past. Could be got cheap enough I'd say.

Michu...we would probably have to pay over the odds for a player that Swansea bought for 3m but he has played in the Prem and done well. A new "Fox in the box" a la Jeffers perhaps.

Just some other options from the English Leagues that we could be looking at.

AnCapaillMor · 31-07-2013 08:41AM

keano_afc wrote: »

But in fairness, if the club come out and spout BS about them having loads of money and finally being in a position to back it up, you'd expect there to be some evidence of that by now. Instead we have the same intransigence. Yes they might pull something out of the bag, but the signings we need at CB, CM and CF wont all be completed by the start of the season, and I dont think saying that makes anyone a crybaby.

I'm thinking more and more that we might have the money but Gazidis is hopless when it comes to transfers and getting the deal done. He seems to be good at the financial\commercial side but transfers have dragged out over the past few years. I know i'm always banging on about it but bring back dein or bring in a director of footy for transfer dealings at least. someone who has a background in football and has the contacts.

bad2dabone · 31-07-2013 08:55AM

i'd defo support Dein as a Director of Football.

.jacksparrow. · 31-07-2013 09:09AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

i'd defo support Dein as a Director of Football.

As long as he keeps his son away from our players and the emirates.

cson · 31-07-2013 09:14AM

j14 wrote: »

Michu...we would probably have to pay over the odds for a player that Swansea bought for 3m but he has played in the Prem and done well. A new "Fox in the box" a la Jeffers perhaps.

*Shudder*

j14 · 31-07-2013 09:18AM

cson wrote: »

*Shudder*

Ha I had a feeling this statement would get that type of response but I think Michu would be a solid striker but probably not the mega money / statement making deal that everyone wants.

Although I dont think I could ever see Michu ending up at Accrington Stanley like poor ol' Frannie Jeffers...where did it go wrong...

keano_afc · 31-07-2013 09:30AM

I think the shudder was in reference to Jeffers and not Michu.

speedboatchase · 31-07-2013 09:35AM

j14 wrote: »

Ha I had a feeling this statement would get that type of response but I think Michu would be a solid striker but probably not the mega money / statement making deal that everyone wants.

Although I dont think I could ever see Michu ending up at Accrington Stanley like poor ol' Frannie Jeffers...where did it go wrong...

Michu might yet be a one-season wonder in the PL though. He's at a great age for a forward (27) and he was amazing last season but that was the only the second time in his career that he scored over 10 goals in all appearences in a season. If we could get a good price then he'd be worth it but Swansea will probably ask for £15m or above.

j14 · 31-07-2013 09:38AM

keano_afc wrote: »

I think the shudder was in reference to Jeffers and not Michu.

Yeah I know he was...I think a few Arsenal fans would quite like Michu, don't know how he would go down overall as I think everyone was expecting a big money deal after what we heard from Ivan banging on about how we can afford the best of the best.

On another note, Flamini is on a free this summer...wonder would he come back to the Prem?

.jacksparrow. · 31-07-2013 09:40AM

Maybe only Wenger knows this is his last season and wants to leave some cash for the next manager?

Would make sense the rumours of a rift between him and the board that he won't spend the money.

speedboatchase · 31-07-2013 09:44AM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Maybe only Wenger knows this is his last season and wants to leave some cash for the next manager?

Would make sense the rumours of a rift between him and the board that he won't spend the money.

Maybe, but if we miss out on CL football then his replacement 1. probably won't be the type of manager we would all hope for and 2. won't be able to attract the same level of players we currently can this summer. So I hope that theory doesn't ring true.

.jacksparrow. · 31-07-2013 09:45AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Maybe, but if we miss out on CL football then his replacement 1. probably won't be the type of manager we would all hope for and 2. won't be able to attract the same level of players we currently can this summer. So I hope that theory doesn't ring true.

Well he got us into the cl with the team he has now, could be his thinking but its only a thought.

speedboatchase · 31-07-2013 09:50AM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Well he got us into the cl with the team he has now, could be his thinking but its only a thought.

On a purely speculative note, although they screwed us on the Higuain deal, we should go hunting at Real if the Bale deal goes through. They have an enormous midfield and will likely be looking to sell the likes of Di Maria, Khedira etc in the next few weeks.

.jacksparrow. · 31-07-2013 09:57AM

And if he did get Suarez his thinking could be Suarez would stay for maybe 2 years then go to Madrid and the club could recoup a lot of the fee they paid to Liverpool, so he wouldn't be spending a lot of money in the long run going into his last season, once again just my overactive imagination.

gosplan · 31-07-2013 10:03AM

keano_afc wrote: »

But in fairness, if the club come out and spout BS about them having loads of money and finally being in a position to back it up, you'd expect there to be some evidence of that by now. Instead we have the same intransigence. Yes they might pull something out of the bag, but the signings we need at CB, CM and CF wont all be completed by the start of the season, and I dont think saying that makes anyone a crybaby.

We're all fans and we all want to see the club do well. Nobody would disagree with that. I just want the club to back up what they said in May. They havent. Does anyone want to see us scrapping around on deadline day when we've had the whole summer to do business? Of course not. Bottom line is the teams around us have all strengthened (apart from United, who won the league in second gear) and we have let 20+ players go. Yes, we will probably do business. But there's still a sense of an opportunnity missed about this summer.

Grand but at this point can I just suggest that everyone get's that.

Obviously as Arsenal fans, we're all concerned and would like to see more action.

What this thread normally does for us is provide an outlet from the daily grind, give us a bit of 'us time' to go with kids, job etc.

I hate coming here and seeing the same negative stuff rehashed.

I we choose to just put it to one side and wait till Sept the first before calling curtains on it, then it's rather annoying to see the same world is ending stuff every time done randomly links Bernard with Porto or anyone with Spurs.

It seems these days that any rumour whatsoever about another club strengthening or a player who might suit us going elsewhere is reported here as fact and further evidence to the failure, stubbornness and outright duplicity of Arsenal and Wenger.

Now if some people choose to interpret every bit of activity and gossip this summer as one endless narrative of failure on Arsenal's part, then that's up to them. And I guess that those who want to post all of that here have the freedom to do so but those of us who accept that it's going to be a deadline day job again would like to just get to that point without hearing over and over again how the sky is falling in.

Yes, we might be the ones sticking our fingers in our ears and going 'la la la' ignoring the writing on the wall but we still should be given the chance to do it.

I mean last night a twitter rumour about Liverpool signing a defender appeared on this thread with the narrative of how this was someone else strengthening and Arsenal's comparative failure etc etc.

I'm not trying to pick on anyone here. Like I said, it's a free thread and I get that done people feel a particular way but does a Liverpool rumour really need to spark the same discussion of the same stuff that we all know or fear?

While crybabies is a bit strong. That's the response of someone who comes to the thread in the evening and sees 10 pages to read - GREAT.

Then it turns out to be the same three or four points just rehashed over and over.

FWIW, I can't remember the last time anyone gave an opinion on a player and where they might fit in. It's all 'big name-sign him'. You'd swear by this thread that Suarez, Rooney, Higuain and Soldado are all the same player.

Anyway a while ago I was doing well ignoring the lack of news. Then all that Suarez stuff sucked me back in. I'll do my best to disappear again and save myself some pointless arguments till we actually sign someone.

.jacksparrow. · 31-07-2013 10:13AM

gosplan wrote: »

Grand but at this point can I just suggest that everyone get's that.

Obviously as Arsenal fans, we're all concerned and would like to see more action.

What this thread normally does for us is provide an outlet from the daily grind, give us a bit of 'us time' to go with kids, job etc.

I hate coming here and seeing the same negative stuff rehashed.

I we choose to just put it to one side and wait till Sept the first before calling curtains on it, then it's rather annoying to see the same world is ending stuff every time done randomly links Bernard with Porto or anyone with Spurs.

It seems these days that any rumour whatsoever about another club strengthening or a player who might suit us going elsewhere is reported here as fact and further evidence to the failure, stubbornness and outright duplicity of Arsenal and Wenger.

Now if some people choose to interpret every bit of activity and gossip this summer as one endless narrative of failure on Arsenal's part, then that's up to them. And I guess that those who want to post all of that here have the freedom to do so but those of us who accept that it's going to be a deadline day job again would like to just get to that point without hearing over and over again how the sky is falling in.

Yes, we might be the ones sticking our fingers in our ears and going 'la la la' ignoring the writing on the wall but we still should be given the chance to do it.

I mean last night a twitter rumour about Liverpool signing a defender appeared on this thread with the narrative of how this was someone else strengthening and Arsenal's comparative failure etc etc.

I'm not trying to pick on anyone here. Like I said, it's a free thread and I get that done people feel a particular way but does a Liverpool rumour really need to spark the same discussion of the same stuff that we all know or fear?

While crybabies is a bit strong. That's the response of someone who comes to the thread in the evening and sees 10 pages to read - GREAT.

Then it turns out to be the same three or four points just rehashed over and over.

FWIW, I can't remember the last time anyone gave an opinion on a player and where they might fit in. It's all 'big name-sign him'. You'd swear by this thread that Suarez, Rooney, Higuain and Soldado are all the same player.

Anyway a while ago I was doing well ignoring the lack of news. Then all that Suarez stuff sucked me back in. I'll do my best to disappear again and save myself some pointless arguments till we actually sign someone.

If you go over to the united thread there exactly the same, so to say its just arsenal fans here who is impatient is a bit unfair.

speedboatchase · 31-07-2013 10:23AM

I'm well aware this could be utter nonsense but here goes...

James McCarthy agrees personal terms with Arsenal
http://wordonthepitch.com/mccarthy-agrees-personal-terms-with-arsenal/

Quazzie · 31-07-2013 10:28AM

I think anyone who thinks that it's not acceptable to be a little impatient especially after the merry dance we've been lead on by the board are a little selfish. If you don't want to read negative comments from frustrated fans then I suggest you give supporting arsenal a miss for a while because I foresee this being a full summer of it. Maybe you can come back in and gloat in September when we sign Remy or someone equally underwhelming but for the meantime we have right to complain about our club when we are being sold a fairytale but being delivered a nightmare. Asking us to respect your "right" to not read negativity is ironic considering you won't respect our right to feel aggrieved.

cathalio11 · 31-07-2013 10:53AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

I'm well aware this could be utter nonsense but here goes...

James McCarthy agrees personal terms with Arsenal
http://wordonthepitch.com/mccarthy-agrees-personal-terms-with-arsenal/

Everton have apparently turned up at Wigan's door with a bid of 15 million so that is looking unlikely

tayto lover · 31-07-2013 10:59AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Michu might yet be a one-season wonder in the PL though. He's at a great age for a forward (27) and he was amazing last season but that was the only the second time in his career that he scored over 10 goals in all appearences in a season. If we could get a good price then he'd be worth it but Swansea will probably ask for £15m or above.

Michu might be another Odemwingie i.e. a one season wonder.
As for the 15 million, I don't think so. Swansea would know that the window has little time left and would milk us for money as they would see us as panic buying again.
We have lost the window and all the good players are nearly sold.
Technically there's a month left but most clubs have done their business early this year.
I don't blame R.Madrid for getting the most out of the Higuain transfer either. We should have done likewise over the years with our captains but we showed our niaveity in the transfer market.
I reckon that if we do get players then they will be unknowns and not the proven pros we need.

plus anyone complaining about negativity on here should read what some of the English based fans have to say about the club's negativity.

bad2dabone · 31-07-2013 11:07AM

Alright, I’m going to step back from twitter and the F5 olympics, gonna leave behind the frustration. I’m gonna enjoy the emirates cup this weekend, and I’m going to enter negotiations with the Mrs about heading over to see the Villa game on the 17th of August.

Even though I’m going mental that it appears we’re making a pigs mickey of this window I’m still very fond of a lot of this arsenal team, and even though I’d like to give him a shake sometimes Wenger is still the finest manager we’ve had in my lifetime, and probably anyones.
Positive vibes from here now.

wandatowell · 31-07-2013 11:09AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

I'm well aware this could be utter nonsense but here goes...

James McCarthy agrees personal terms with Arsenal
http://wordonthepitch.com/mccarthy-agrees-personal-terms-with-arsenal/

Handy player, but Everton have tabled a reported £15m offer

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/329630/Everton-to-return-with-improved-15m-bid-for-Wigan-star-James-McCarthy

31-07-2013 11:12AM

Arsenal fans whinging about whingers, oh the irony.:pac:

.jacksparrow. · 31-07-2013 11:13AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

Alright, I’m going to step back from twitter and the F5 olympics, gonna leave behind the frustration. I’m gonna enjoy the emirates cup this weekend, and I’m going to enter negotiations with the Mrs about heading over to see the Villa game on the 17th of August.

Even though I’m going mental that it appears we’re making a pigs mickey of this window I’m still very fond of a lot of this arsenal team, and even though I’d like to give him a shake sometimes Wenger is still the finest manager we’ve had in my lifetime, and probably anyones.
Positive vibes from here now.

I give it till 5 o clock and those feelings will return!

speedboatchase · 31-07-2013 11:13AM

wandatowell wrote: »

Handy player, but Everton have tabled a reported £15m offer

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/329630/Everton-to-return-with-improved-15m-bid-for-Wigan-star-James-McCarthy

Damn. Looks like everyone can outbid our 'warchest' this summer.

wandatowell · 31-07-2013 11:21AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Damn. Looks like everyone can outbid our 'warchest' this summer.

Its a bad sign when Bill Kenright out bids you

speedboatchase · 31-07-2013 11:23AM

wandatowell wrote: »

Its a bad sign when Bill Kenright out bids you

Doubles our bid, even. (If we actually have bidded)

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