Luke Flanagan to introduce the Cannabis Legalisation Bill on 29/10/13 - NORML Ireland

Joy31 · 30-07-2013 09:10PM #1

sorry for any inconvenience if this is posted in the
Here we go, good news for some of the Irish people;
https://www.facebook.com/events/183146295195987/

on a side note I don't even smoke or use pot and i'm still for it been legal,

Why?:

Increase tax money
Decrease crime
People will respect & like the law & government much more.
Overall it would only increase people's spirit,etc.
Make people respect and like the government more.
Increase money towards tax. More tax money would go towards cannabis meaning less tax needed (in a way, every bit counts.)
Decrease crime, because in general having it illegal increases people bad doings. If nicotine became illegal, it would only increase guns,people going to jail,crime attitude,etc.
Decrease people's chances of going to jail just for wanting some effects.
In general it may make the smokers seem more happier towards the government,people,etc overall.

What do you think about this?....

MadsL · 30-07-2013 09:11PM

Finally. Sick of waiting for him to pony up this Bill. Shame he's managed to discredit himself in the meantime.

Any heads of bill for it?

Joy31 · 30-07-2013 09:11PM

double post very sorry about that, mods may please delete one?. sorry about that, I was getting error message.
thank you for understanding.

Fox_In_Socks · 30-07-2013 09:13PM

MadsL wrote: »

Any heads of bill for it?

What's this new fangled drug-talk? ARE YOU GOING FOR HEROIN LIKE TONY FLYNN???

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 30-07-2013 09:14PM

It has zero chance of getting through, thankfully.
Just another ego trip for that narcasistic little twirp.

Clandestine · 30-07-2013 09:14PM

I think this bill should pass. The government should not interfere with a person's personal choices when it comes to their own body, not to mention the $$$ that'll come their way when they start taxing it/selling it.

tashiusclay · 30-07-2013 09:15PM

Sure isn't it a gateway drug, won't the whole country be on Heroin shortly afterwards??

seven_eleven · 30-07-2013 09:15PM

Lets just hope this doesnt lead to more braindead pothead teenagers.

There are many positives to it, and I dont mind people smoking it. But there are so many negatives too, its proven to reduce intelligence and learning ability in teenagers, and I know people who smoke it laught at the whole "gateway" thing, but I've seen it happen to people I know so many times. Mainly in their teens.
They've have all moved on to heavier drugs. Some onto dealing too and turned into complete dirtbags. But thats another positive! Hopefully it will remove the scumbag dealers around the country.

It will need to be regulated fairly well, because if 12 year old kids can gain access to ciggarettes no bother, then they will get to this just as easy.

EDIT: Before this turns into another rehashed drug debate with the same point over and over again. Do you think we could get a more reliable source, other than some stupid facebook group?

PhlegmyMoses · 30-07-2013 09:16PM

Get Bunny Colvin to head up the implementation division.

NegativeCreep · 30-07-2013 09:16PM

Would love to see it legalised but I don't think it will happen very soon!

I don't smoke regularly at all but would like the option of having a quiet joint in my house without the fear (and increased paranoia) whenever I hear a siren!

I don't even understand why it's illegal!

LizT · 30-07-2013 09:17PM

Duplicate threads merged.

Vito Corleone · 30-07-2013 09:18PM

seven_eleven wrote: »

Lets just hope this doesnt lead to more braindead pothead teenagers.

Hardly, it's so easily available anyway it will make no difference. Hopefully it gets passed, however, I don't think it will.

GLaDOS · 30-07-2013 09:18PM

Don't smoke weed (well, rarely

), but would be in favour of this. Anyone who wants to smoke weed can anyway, this will mean less money to criminals and less risk of people smoking something contaminated.

Clandestine · 30-07-2013 09:18PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

It has zero chance of getting through, thankfully.

Can you see the future?

And thankfully you say? A person should be able to get blazed if they so wish, weed's nowhere near as harmful as alcohol or cigarettes.

MadsL · 30-07-2013 09:20PM

MadsL wrote: »

Any heads of bill for it?

They are jumping the gun a bit...

Nothing here: http://www.oireachtas.ie/ViewDoc.asp?DocId=-1&CatID=59&m=b

Uriel. · 30-07-2013 09:21PM

Clandestine wrote: »

Can you see the future?

And thankfully you say? A person should be able to get blazed if they so wish, weed's nowhere near as harmful as alcohol or cigarettes.

If alcohol or cigarettes were new inventions tomorrow they'd most likely be illegal.

Do you think all drugs should be legalised?

Wattle · 30-07-2013 09:24PM

I'm all in favour but I don't think we're ready for this yet. Too many vested interests and Joe Duffy listeners in the way. Maybe in another twenty years.

gowley · 30-07-2013 09:25PM

Clandestine wrote: »

Can you see the future?

And thankfully you say? A person should be able to get blazed if they so wish, weed's nowhere near as harmful as alcohol or cigarettes.

they are trying to ban cigs aswell Doctor Clandestine. Always amazes me how many medical experts frequent ah

Joy31 · 30-07-2013 09:28PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

It has zero chance of getting through, thankfully.
Just another ego trip for that narcasistic little twirp.

Lets make it have a snowball chance of passing, enough is enough. 99% of the people want it to be legal for good reasons and it will have a good outcome.
that's like saying alcohol would have no chance of becoming legal when it was made illegal by one man out of 6 billion people.
and i'm saying that I don't even smoke/use weed.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 30-07-2013 09:31PM

Joy31 wrote: »

Lets make it have a snowball chance of passing, enough is enough. 99% of the people want it to be legal for good reasons and it will have a good outcome.
that's like saying alcohol would have no chance of becoming legal when it was made illegal by one man out of 6 billion people.
and i'm saying that I don't even smoke/use weed.

You have evidence for the claim that 99% of people want it legalized?
Thought not!

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 30-07-2013 09:35PM

Clandestine wrote: »

Can you see the future?

Yup, I see a future where the overwhelming majority of elected members of the Dail vote against it on its first reading.
Ming will then squeak in faux outrage and burn some illegal turf in the grounds of the Dail in protest.:P

gowley · 30-07-2013 09:44PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

You have evidence for the claim that 99% of people want it legalized?
Thought not!

maybe he has polled the population on this subject. there are medical experts on the thread so why not a market research expert aswell. mind you not even 99% of this thread agree so you could be right humph

InTheTrees · 30-07-2013 09:44PM

We legalized it 100% here in Washington State last November. Colorado also legalized it.

There's a one year period where the distribution and tax implications are worked out so we're looking at shops and bars/restaurants/bakeries opening to sell it by this autumn. Its legal to possess right now, its just that there's no legal retail system in place. There had already been medicinal pot so the "clinics" already exist. Presumably in the autumn they will simply open their doors to everyone.

When a couple of years have gone by and other sates are able to study our results we fully expect other states to follow our lead, and after that there should be a cascade effect (much like gay marriage) as other states follow.

Already there's huge savings in Police and law enforcement resources, and in the autumn when retail sales begin there will be substantial tax revenues. Unlike amsterdam that is now discouraging "pot tourism", Seattle is ready to fully embrace it; Come visit Seattle and sample the weed, safely and legally. (Just dont try and take any home with you!)

MadsL · 30-07-2013 09:46PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

We legalized it 100% here in Washington State last November. Colorado also legalized it.

There's a one year period where the distribution and tax implications are worked out so we're looking at shops and bars/restaurants/bakeries opening to sell it by this autumn. There had already been medicinal pot so the "clinics" already exist. Presumably in the autumn they will simply open their doors to everyone.

When a couple of years have gone by and other sates are able to study our results we fully expect other states to follow our lead, and after that there should be a cascade effect (much like gay marriage) as other states follow.

Already there's huge savings in Police and law enforcement resources, and in the autumn when retail sales begin there will be substantial tax revenues.

Buy Doritos stock now folks!!

Czarcasm · 30-07-2013 09:50PM

I don't often wish to incite violence but for his own sake would somebody PLEASE fcuk that gobshìte into the deepest boghole they can find, then find somebody who doesn't at least look, smell and act like society's stereotype of your typical pot headed stoner to represent the interests of the marijuana legalisation lobby.

Tired now listening to the whiney little whippet who nobody can ever take seriously!

MadsL · 30-07-2013 09:53PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

I don't often wish to incite violence but for his own sake would somebody PLEASE fcuk that gobshìte into the deepest boghole they can find, then find somebody who doesn't at least look, smell and act like society's stereotype of your typical pot headed stoner to represent the interests of the marijuana legalisation lobby.

Tired now listening to the whiney little whippet who nobody can ever take seriously!

Exactly, I support legalisation but I would vote no to spite Ming. I'd love it if FG beat him to the legislation and got it passed. The look on Ming's face would be priceless.

antodeco · 30-07-2013 09:53PM

seven_eleven wrote: »

EDIT: Before this turns into another rehashed drug debate

:pac:

zenno · 30-07-2013 09:53PM

UMM... Cannabiscuits, Best of luck Ming, but as far as i'm concerned, it may as well be legal in Ireland. But still, it would be nice to get a more different range of cannabis herb for a change.

Christ the Redeemer · 30-07-2013 09:55PM

Depressing reading the comments in this post. It's like an old folks home or Joe Duffys fans were linked to it on facebook.

InTheTrees · 30-07-2013 09:55PM

MadsL wrote: »

Buy Doritos stock now folks!!

There's an investor group planning a chain of Pot Shops due to open soon.

There's been interesting issues to emerge too. For instance the POst Office is a federal organization so posting weed would still be subject to confiscation even if it stays within the state. However FedEx and UPS have said they're okay delivering it within the state.

Also technically you're only supposed to smoke it at home. But now they're proposing clubs.

http://news.yahoo.com/now-marijuana-legal-seattle-wants-private-pot-clubs-221050894.html

Christ the Redeemer · 30-07-2013 09:56PM

MadsL wrote: »

Exactly, I support legalisation but I would vote no to spite Ming. I'd love it if FG beat him to the legislation and got it passed. The look on Ming's face would be priceless.

We need more people like you in politics.

I am being sarky BTW.

Luke Flanagan to introduce the Cannabis Legalisation Bill on 29/10/13 - NORML Ireland

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