Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours - 2013/14

sReq | uTeK · 29-07-2013 05:32PM

What time is kick off tonight and if anyone would be so kind as to send me a recipe it would be very much appreciated.

Rubber_Soul · 29-07-2013 05:35PM

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

What time is kick off tonight and if anyone would be so kind as to send me a recipe it would be very much appreciated.

It's not being televised.

Vic Vinegar · 29-07-2013 05:36PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

So has Fabregas had this press conference yet ? If not what time??

Its a Barcelona press conference that Fabregas may appear at as far as I'm aware. We shall see later anyway.

homerjay2005 · 29-07-2013 05:43PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Its a Barcelona press conference that Fabregas may appear at as far as I'm aware. We shall see later anyway.

is this press conference definitely on though or is it just rumors?

if it is and he is there, then i think one way or another, the Fabregas saga will end tonight.

Rubber_Soul · 29-07-2013 05:53PM

If he's there it's only going one way. There's zero chance he's gonna say he's leaving at a club press conference before the club has even announced that a deal has been agreed with Utd.

Vic Vinegar · 29-07-2013 05:56PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

is this press conference definitely on though or is it just rumors?

Had a quick look and can't see confirmation anywhere (I might not be looking in the right places though!)

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if it is and he is there, then i think one way or another, the Fabregas saga will end tonight.

That's for sure! hopefully contingency plans will come into action then.

homerjay2005 · 29-07-2013 05:56PM

some pics from Crewe...

by the way, speaking of Crewe, anybody know when nick powell is due in training again?

TheTownie · 29-07-2013 06:00PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

some pics from Crewe...

Nani's nose is looking lovely.

DM_7 · 29-07-2013 06:08PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

we have a squad full of these players already, we dont need any more of them. if we signed two world class midfielders, that the club has been missing for the last few years, i have every confidence that we would push for a CL semi final place at least this season. as it stands, we have failed to get past the last 16 in the last 2 seasons and this trend will continue unless we bring in the players needed.

squads win leagues, but when push came to shove and big games had to be won towards the end of the last 2 seasons, we were found wanting....big time.

I'm not talking about an Ashley Young or a really young player like Smalling, Jones.

I am talking about the Roy Keane, Dwight Yorke type signings. Proven in the premier league, with a genuine chance of walking into United's first choice team and performing to a very high standard immediately. The type of player who can compete with the best in the league and potential do it in Europe. I am thinking a Dembele from last summer or Fellaini in this summers window.

Will I Amnt · 29-07-2013 06:14PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Nani's nose is looking lovely.

Poor Vidic.

How Soon Is Now · 29-07-2013 06:15PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

I'm not talking about an Ashley Young or a really young player like Smalling, Jones.

I am talking about the Roy Keane, Dwight Yorke type signings. Proven in the premier league, with a genuine chance of walking into United's first choice team and performing to a very high standard immediately. The type of player who can compete with the best in the league and potential do it in Europe. I am thinking a Dembele from last summer or Fellaini in this summers window.

I mentioned it before and ill say it again we have more chance buying proven premier league players then major players abroad.

We have proved this many times and where wasting time trying to kid ourselves thinking we can bring in these fancy players from rival clubs.

Once someone gets there claws into them thats that end of.

Id rather see us go for Fellaini at this stage and stop wasting ****ing time with Barcalona.

homerjay2005 · 29-07-2013 06:20PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I mentioned it before and ill say it again we have more chance buying proven premier league players then major players abroad.

We have proved this many times and where wasting time trying to kid ourselves thinking we can bring in these fancy players from rival clubs.

Once someone gets there claws into them thats that end of.

Id rather see us go for Fellaini at this stage and stop wasting ****ing time with Barcalona.

the problem is, what local players are available who will improve our first 11?

players like Roy Keane and Yorke dont grow on trees either.

it looks like if Fabregas falls through (and that is looking likely unless something drastic happens), then our only option will be Fellani and while i rate him highly, i dont think he is the answer to our problem...he is the answer to one problem, but not our main one.

its a problem, that now at this stage, i dont think is going to be properly sorted in the next month. we have wasted pretty much the entire summer, i believe that now it could be too late to start all over again with players, who wont take too well to being 2nd or 3rd choice and last minute.

people keep saying we shouldnt rush things, but that is exacly whats going to happen now and i fear the problem wont be addressed properly at this stage, unless by some miracle Fabregas comes through.

adox · 29-07-2013 06:24PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I mentioned it before and ill say it again we have more chance buying proven premier league players then major players abroad.

Fabregas so.

How Soon Is Now · 29-07-2013 06:30PM

adox wrote: »

Fabregas so.

He no longer plays in the English league once he went back to ''Them'' things where always bound to be arseways.

adox · 29-07-2013 06:31PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

He no longer plays in the English league once he went back to ''Them'' things are bound to be arseways.

Meh Utd are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I'm sorry but its a ridiculous idea to only try to sign current premier league players.

DM_7 · 29-07-2013 06:36PM

adox wrote: »

Meh Utd are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I'm sorry but its a ridiculous idea to only try to sign current premier league players.

Yeah. United should try to sign the best wherever they play, not just from the premier league.

But if really really good players can be got in the league even though they are not tagged world class it would be fine with me.

How Soon Is Now · 29-07-2013 06:36PM

adox wrote: »

Meh Utd are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I'm sorry but its a ridiculous idea to only try to sign current premier league players.

Whens the last time we signed a proven player from outside of the premier league ? Off the top of my head i cant think..... They where all either from this league or not yet proven players that others would of wanted also.

MANUTD99 · 29-07-2013 06:39PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Whens the last time we signed a proven player from outside of the premier league ? Off the top of my head i cant think..... They where all either from this league or not yet proven players that others would of wanted also.

Kagawa

The_Kew_Tour · 29-07-2013 06:41PM

newballsplease wrote: »

Ok so there actually is still a few !

Oh man !

I have not seen one person say we would sign him.

How Soon Is Now · 29-07-2013 06:41PM

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Kagawa

Dunno how he slipped my mind!.

I can think of other players but at the same time i wouldnt class them as proven players at the top level more players with potential etc.

We tend to lose out on the deals for these kinds of players they always go elsewhere.

adox · 29-07-2013 06:46PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Dunno how he slipped my mind!.

I can think of other players but at the same time i wouldnt class them as proven players at the top level more players with potential etc.

We tend to lose out on the deals for these kinds of players they always go elsewhere.

But we were/are bidding on Fabregas based on his Arsenal career more so than his Barca career.

It's a bit of a defeatist attitude to say not to bother trying to sign top players outside of England because it usually doesn't work out.

Rayne Wooney · 29-07-2013 06:46PM

Do people think we'll be challenging in Europe if Fellaini is our only signing?

Having a good chance of winning it with Fellaini being our only improvement?

The_Kew_Tour · 29-07-2013 06:48PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Do people think we'll be challenging in Europe if Fellaini is our only signing?

"Challenging" yes.

Winning it unless we do a Liverpool on it, no.

How Soon Is Now · 29-07-2013 06:49PM

adox wrote: »

But we were/are bidding on Fabregas based on his Arsenal career more so than his Barca career.

It's a bit of a defeatist attitude to say not to bother trying to sign top players outside of England because it usually doesn't work out.

If he was still playing for Arsenal and never mentioned wanting to return to Barca we would clearly have a much better chance of buying him.

The players we have bought from europe over last few years have all been potential big players or players that where not at the time seen as world beaters.

Some of these players went on to be major players threw out the world.

My point is United rarely sign big name top players from outside of the Premier league because as soon as we make a move we either **** it up or there attracted by money or success elsewhere.

Headshot · 29-07-2013 06:50PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Do people think we'll be challenging in Europe if Fellaini is our only signing?

We'll always challenge in Europe with or without a cm but we dont have a chance of winning it

You see teams Barca, R. Madrid and Bayern strengthen while we stagnate. Its very frustrating. For a so called power house of soccer, its just not right

tallaghtmick · 29-07-2013 06:52PM

N*** scored a decent free kick

Rayne Wooney · 29-07-2013 06:54PM

Headshot wrote: »

We'll always challenge in Europe with or without a cm but we dont have a chance of winning it

You see teams Barca, R. Madrid and Bayern strengthen while we stagnate. Its very frustrating. For a so called power house of soccer, its just not right

By challenging I meant having a decent chance of winning it, with Fellaini being our only improvement.

RobertKK · 29-07-2013 06:55PM

You would think with all the money United are suppose to have available to buy players it shouldn't be hard to get one top class attacking midfielder, but they are scarce and Bayern have really gone overboard on them.

How Soon Is Now · 29-07-2013 06:57PM

RobertKK wrote: »

You would think with all the money United are suppose to have available to buy players it shouldn't be hard to get one top class attacking midfielder, but they are scarce and Bayern have really gone overboard on them.

Ive seen so many players mentioned just on here before that we could be looking into. Weather we are or not who knows but either way it seems our main efforts are going for the obvious out of reach targets.

The_Kew_Tour · 29-07-2013 06:57PM

Fellaini would be great buy, but we still so desperately need somebody who can take control in the middle of the field.

Fabregas can do that while offering a good presence with Carrick when defending.

I be happy with Fellaini no question, but Fabregas would offer us something little more that we need.

Buying both while long shot would be insane summer.

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours - 2013/14

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