Smoking ban outside schools creches

listermint · 29-07-2013 01:19PM #1

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/smoking-ban-moves-to-outside-schools-creches-29455490.html

School campuses and creche grounds are set to become smoke-free areas under a raft of new measures designed to make Ireland tobacco-free.

Health Minister James Reilly plans to step up his war on smoking by recommending local authorities introduce smoking bans at beaches and parks, as well as by bringing in laws on the sale of tobacco and by appointing an anti-smoking czar.

Now i have to say i agree with the sentiments of this. It appears to me at least that smoking is gaining traction of being acceptable again with younger generations. Stopping it at point (in school) makes sense.

I was at a relatives 18th birthday over the weekend, and found it slightly shocking that about 80-90% of the kids were smoking at it. It was a bbq thing in a house. The age range was 18 - 23 and i found it hard to point to people that werent smoking. Despite all the warnings is it again seen as edgey and cool ??

TheBody · 29-07-2013 01:29PM

I'll never comprehend why people smoke.

29-07-2013 01:32PM

Ive been a smoker for over 30 years, never would I have smoked near my kids school.
I didnt need a ban to tell me that was stupid. I dont like children seeing me smoking for some reason I feel evil

seamus · 29-07-2013 01:37PM

Jake1 wrote: »

I didnt need a ban to tell me that was stupid.

Unfortunately lots of people do.

SweepTheLeg · 29-07-2013 01:39PM

TheBody wrote: »

I'll never comprehend why people smoke.

To be cool.

Corvo Attano · 29-07-2013 01:41PM

All the kids want them cool sticks

**Vai** · 29-07-2013 01:44PM

I'm not a parent so it would be weird for me to hang out outside a crèche or school, but I'm imagining its only the parents of kids attending said school/crèche who will be affected. They shouldn't need the law for that.

As for parks, they can **** right off.

Celly Smunt · 29-07-2013 01:47PM

There are two types of smokers.

People who smoke and Dickheads.

mikom · 29-07-2013 01:49PM

Health Minister James Reilly plans to step up his war on smoking by recommending local authorities introduce smoking bans at beaches and parks,

Burger vans still allowed at beaches and parks, Minister?

smellslikeshoes · 29-07-2013 01:50PM

Pointless laws to make it look like he's doing something, who will be policing people on the beach/parks?

seamus · 29-07-2013 01:52PM

mikom wrote: »

Burger vans still allowed at beaches and parks, Minister?

Don't see many people buying a burger and then shoving down the throats of everyone around them...

Tired old comparison tbh.

29-07-2013 01:54PM

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

Pointless laws to make it look like he's doing something, who will be policing people on the beach/parks?

I think he just wants the press to focus on this and not his nursing home affairs.

Wag the dog, I think the americans call it

RachaelVO · 29-07-2013 01:55PM

Totally agree with this, and I'm a smoker.

I made the decision on what school to send my kids to based on the parents waiting outside the school gates, at one there was loads of parents smoking, so I wouldn't send them there. The other school was further away, and that got my vote cos no one was smoking outside the gates waiting for their kids

NegativeCreep · 29-07-2013 01:56PM

Ban tobacco, legalise weed.
I smoke but want rid of them!

Anyone · 29-07-2013 01:58PM

Does James Reilly do anything else other than go on an anti smoking campaign? Dont get me wrong, I'm ok with his proposals, but it just seems to me that's all he does.

Tabnabs · 29-07-2013 01:59PM

More interference into peoples lives and state control of individuals behaviour. No thanks Minister, how about you keep your snout out of what choices people make in their lives?

jimmycrackcorm · 29-07-2013 02:01PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Ban tobacco, legalise weed.
I smoke but want rid of them!

And then smoke weed?

mikom · 29-07-2013 02:01PM

seamus wrote: »

Don't see many people buying a burger and then shoving down the throats of everyone around them...

Tired old comparison tbh.

It will take a smoking minister to take on the burger vans, as the burger minister is busy taking on the smokers.

listermint · 29-07-2013 02:05PM

Forget the burger trucks and parks aspect of it.

The core proposal is schools. Do people not thing nipping it in the bud at source is best approach ? You will never stop everyone picking up smoking. But from my recent observations it seems to be on the rise again with the younger generations. One would ask why ? why is this occuring.

Merkin · 29-07-2013 02:06PM

This is just a ploy to keep the important stuff that's not being dealt with (or else handled appallingly) out of the news. Yawn.

Anyone · 29-07-2013 02:08PM

listermint wrote: »

Forget the burger trucks and parks aspect of it.

The core proposal is schools. Do people not thing nipping it in the bud at source is best approach ? You will never stop everyone picking up smoking. But from my recent observations it seems to be on the rise again with the younger generations. One would ask why ? why is this occuring.

The quickest way to get a teen to do something is to tell them they cant/its illegal.

NegativeCreep · 29-07-2013 02:09PM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

And then smoke weed?

Well I'm not gonna look at it! Might eat it :P

Yakult · 29-07-2013 02:13PM

Just ban cigarettes altogether and stop pussy footing around the place.

**Vai** · 29-07-2013 02:15PM

Yakult wrote: »

Just ban cigarettes altogether and stop pussy footing around the place.

The government make too much on taxes to do that. Besides, it would work about as well as banning cannabis.

MugMugs · 29-07-2013 02:19PM

seamus wrote: »

Don't see many people buying a burger and then shoving down the throats of everyone around them...

Tired old comparison tbh.

If I smoke at a beach, I am hardly doing you any harm now, am I ?

Zillah · 29-07-2013 02:24PM

I like to imagine that the government has a dart board, and when difficult topics come up they hurl a dart at it to see what they can distract people with. Blasphemy law, internet censorship, free cheese, smoking laws...

Still in shock that the cheese thing wasn't from The Onion.

kunst nugget · 29-07-2013 02:32PM

Anyone wrote: »

The quickest way to get a teen to do something is to tell them they cant/its illegal.

Yes, that's why all I can see around me are teenagers injecting heroin while shagging goats, dumping household waste on the side of the roads and digging up preserved bogs. Those dirty rapscallions…

Anyone · 29-07-2013 02:33PM

MugMugs wrote: »

If I smoke at a beach, I am hardly doing you any harm now, am I ?

Thats not the ploy though. The idea for this is to de-normalise smoking. If a child sees adults smoking it can be viewed as "normal" behavior.

kunst nugget · 29-07-2013 02:38PM

MugMugs wrote: »

If I smoke at a beach, I am hardly doing you any harm now, am I ?

As long as you don't leave your butts lying around. Nothing worse than realising that where you've hunkered down with your kids on the beach and where they go to build their sand castles is liberally peppered with discarded butts.

listermint · 29-07-2013 02:40PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

As long as you don't leave your butts lying around. Nothing worse than realising that where you've hunkered down with your kids on the beach and where they go to build their sand castles is liberally peppered with discarded butts.

Id imagine he does. Ive never seen a smoker pick a butt up off the beach in my life. bury it in the sand where it stays forever....

MugMugs · 29-07-2013 02:40PM

Anyone wrote: »

Thats not the ploy though. The idea for this is to de-normalise smoking. If a child sees adults smoking it can be viewed as "normal" behavior.

kunst nugget wrote: »

As long as you don't leave your butts lying around. Nothing worse than realising that where you've hunkered down with your kids on the beach and where they go to build their sand castles is liberally peppered with discarded butts.

But that's the thing.

Yet, Somebody else can sit there with a quarter pounder in one hand and an ice cream cone in the other and that's okay.

Smoking causes cancer, fast food apparently to some degree causes cancer but also causes heart disease, obesity and diabetes.

So why one and not the other?

What happens to free choice?

Smoking ban outside schools creches

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