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Galway GAA discussion thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Just back from Dublin. It's always tough going out on a point but I feel pretty good looking back on the season. To pick themselves up after Mayo, break the qualifier curse and run it close for a quarter final place isn't bad at all. They have everything to build on next year.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Hard luck lads. Was a great, great effort.

    Lots there to build on for next year.

    Gaillimh Abú


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭spiritcrusher


    It's been a long, long time since I felt genuine and real disappointment in a big game. And I mean that in the best possible way. The last few years we've been eliminated and it's been anger and embarrassment but this year we've gone from one of Galway football's lowest ever points to the most promise in at least 5 years. There was passion out there yesterday. And I also reckon we're not getting enough credit for it either. Armagh were dismissed as unfocused and Cork have blamed the manager (who to be fair is a bit clueless for a man several years in the job).

    There was that old Galway trademark 10 minute period in the second half where the style was turned on like we used to and it couldn't be stopped. The ball came flying out of the half back line and midfield, then into Meehan within about 10 seconds and a score was worked. Sadly we just couldn't sustain it past 60 minutes and the backs couldn't survive the relentless diagonal ball and tight handpassing from Cork. The goal was inevitable really and was always going to be the killer blow when it came I felt. Cork just about deserved their win but f*ck it, it would not have been undeserved if we won it.

    Regards individuals, Conroy's first half was something else. It was almost like he knew where Meehan was going to be before Meehan did with some of the ball he gave. He got marked out of it a little in the second but he still gave a fine display. Sice was fantastic too, came bombing out of defence several times in the second half to set up many scores, same with Armstrong. But Meehan... That man is made for Croke Park, no doubt about it. He's been hit and miss all season but yesterday, even with the diminished pace, he created all sorts of chaos. In his element. Doubt you'll see a better free all year either, even though it was ultimately pointless.

    Maybe it's the sadist in me, but it was great to see the complete devastation and heartache on their faces at the end. Been a while since I've seen such heart on the sleeve reactions. They were there to win and nothing else. They had the taste of the big time yesterday and they'll feel they're not far off a real breakthrough. About 3 or 4 positions need strengthening still though. GOD did well but we were sliced apart through the middle too often. CB needs strengthening and Army needs to be that good consistently.

    And in fairness to both teams, there's still a lot to be said for having talented pacey footballers on your team. That second half was seriously enjoyable to watch and that was including some (limited) use of blanket defences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Stanza2


    Great post there spirit crusher, could not agree more and well written.

    Also add that I was gutted for Danny Cummins, his first point was absolute class and his man was bricking himself in the first few minutes when that ball was delivered into space. Hamstring I believe put him out, but man was that second half space crying out for him as a foil for Meehan. Shane did well when coming on and will have got huge experience from this match. The future is bright and never as bleak as some would have forecast.

    If ever there was a candidate for the "class is permanent" label, then Mikey Meehan is it. Big stage player, magnificent footballer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    How unlucky are galway in the qualifiers? As a meath man I was very impressed with what I saw from ye today. It was special seeing all of your fans clapping them off the pitch.

    Cant help but feel that meehans goal came 70 minutes too early though :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    The positive from this game is that Galway played with a lot of heart. It was great to see the player's reaction at the final whistle where a few of them looked very very angry that they lost. Against Mayo, it looked like they did not care. Those players got a lot of criticism after the Mayo game and I think that may have played a part in their performance yesterday. Some of the more maligned players like Duane, O'Donnell really played with a lot fight and heart yesterday. Also, Sean Armstrong is a player always accused of going missing in matches but yesterday, he did not shy away from anything. There was an incident in the second half where there was a few handbags in the forward line off the ball and Armstrong went over and gave one of the Cork players a hefty shoulder. He was making sure that Galway were not going to be pushed around like they were against Mayo. He should be respected for that. Meehan really proved everybody wrong too by showing he is still capable of putting in a top performance at this level.

    Mulholland was quick to make changes and that is nice to see (I hate seeing managers slow to make changes). However, I felt he made a HUGE mistake in taking off John O'Brien who was picking up a nice bit of breaking ball. Cork had actually just taken of his man a few minutes earlier. Not sure about taking off Martin either. I was sitting just above where Varley was warming up. Martin had a chance that was blocked, it was at that moment they called Varley up to come on. However, Martin was very unlucky with that chance, he had found the space but Shane Walsh was too slow in getting the ball to him. I saw Meehan telling him after the incident to be a bit faster letting it go. I suspect Walsh may become the new Armstrong in the next few years frustrating us Galway fans. He always likes to take a bit more out of the ball than he should.

    You should never be happy with a defeat. But at least Galway have something to build on for next year now. And this qualifier run should help Galway improve for the years ahead.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭CastingCouch


    What age is Walsh? Looks to be able to play. If he's only 18/19 I wouldn't be playing him so much just yet.

    Cummins is class and Conroy was excellent yesterday.

    The movement of the forwards was excellent. Just that experience in parts let them down but these players don't have experience of playing in Croker v the big teams.

    I thought the backs 1 v 1 were excellent. They let Cork run off them which was their downfall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    At least Grealish had a decent game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    At least Grealish had a decent game.

    Hayes did well too I felt.

    But how oh how Hynes was left on for the entire match? Did he win 1 ball?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭O.A.P


    At least Grealish had a decent game.
    Yeah if we look for positives hard enough they are there :(
    I feel the footballers lost yesterday after playing for Galway like it meant something , they understand how much support they have and what it means to us. (men all of them)
    Im sure to be shot down for my opinion on the hurlers but did the best team win today ?
    I think not they remind me of a Dutch soccer team loads of talent but don't get on with each other and **** the supporters its all about me (or in our case my club)
    . AC is in charge but its not his fault and I feel he is the best man for the job still.
    I feel so let down today they are so much better than that. J Canning had a bad day that's a first but he is not the Galway hurling team


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭CastingCouch


    What's the story with the divide between the clubs? Was there a big match and all hell broke loose or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Galway hurling is a basket case managed by basket cases, some of whom aren't speaking to each other. Management have failed utterly to improve their players from last year and some players themselves, a couple of whom have been on the panel for a few years, don't look as if they could be bothered to try and push on and become better at their game. Management next year, whoever they will be, may as well tear up the teamsheet and start with a largely new panel - the majority of today's team aren't and won't be good enough to win an AI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Couldn't be more disgusted with today. No bottle whatsoever. Went down without a fight which is inexcusable. Very sceptical of AC, did a marvellous job last year but all that is undone, if he can't get the team to play like a team I'm not sure he should be manager.

    But what a waste of a trip, the losing is not what bothers me, it's the fcuking lack of effort to play as a team. A squad of individuals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    MfMan wrote: »
    Galway hurling is a basket case managed by basket cases, some of whom aren't speaking to each other. Management have failed utterly to improve their players from last year and some players themselves, a couple of whom have been on the panel for a few years, don't look as if they could be bothered to try and push on and become better at their game. Management next year, whoever they will be, may as well tear up the teamsheet and start with a largely new panel - the majority of today's team aren't and won't be good enough to win an AI.

    Sound like something that was said 2 years ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    This was a shocking performance. That Clare team are young and improving but today we made them look like world beaters which they aren't. Galway hurling is going nowhere with AC at the helm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Ye're tactics today were shocking, there didn't seem to be any real gameplan in place, played into Clare's hands. Donnellan cleaned up in the first half, and in the final 10 minutes, constantly going for goals when only 3 points down was stupid.

    And after the naivety in letting Dotsy and Ryan destroy your full-back line, you didn't seem to learn from that much either, McGrath scored 1-2 and Honan set up a good few scores aswell. Not to mention Collins and Kelly not being tracked properly at all.



    Personally... I don't think some of the players on the team are good enough at all. It's weird, some of them were brilliant at underage level, and Galway have been pretty successful in recent years but they don't seem to be coming through. The performance in the Leinster final last year was pure class....but I think that was a one-off rather than the standard tbqh...... I mean they did draw in the final but weren't overly convincing either.

    Need to find some forwards... and a proper spine to the defence, instead of changing it all the time. Taking my own county as an example, a lot of our success this year is down to us having finally settled on Richie Mc as a full-back and Wayne Mac as a centre-back. A lot of people have questioned those selections, both players have been heavily criticised over the years, but they do their job, they hold the centre and are a strong foundation for the whole team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    What age is Walsh? Looks to be able to play. If he's only 18/19 I wouldn't be playing him so much just yet.

    Cummins is class and Conroy was excellent yesterday.

    The movement of the forwards was excellent. Just that experience in parts let them down but these players don't have experience of playing in Croker v the big teams.

    I thought the backs 1 v 1 were excellent. They let Cork run off them which was their downfall.
    What has happened to Cormac Bane? Agree that this Galway forward line just needs a competitive midfield n half back platform They also as a squad need another years fitness work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Taking my own county as an example, a lot of our success this year is down to us having finally settled on Richie Mc as a full-back and Wayne Mac as a centre-back. A lot of people have questioned those selections, both players have been heavily criticised over the years, but they do their job, they hold the centre and are a strong foundation for the whole team.

    And of course don't forget to mention.......Donal O Grady and John Allen from bringing Limerick from a position of no hopers in 2010 to potential All Ireland winners 2013. :):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Amprodude wrote: »
    And of course don't forget to mention.......Donal O Grady and John Allen from bringing Limerick from a position of no hopers in 2010 to potential All Ireland winners 2013. :):D

    Well that's true...but Cunningham could have won it last year with Galway, KK were kinda vulnerable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Well that's true...but Cunningham could have won it last year with Galway, KK were kinda vulnerable.

    Agree he should have finished the job on the first day of the All Ireland Final. Galway might not get a better chance than that. They weren't in the races at all in the replay.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭nootroc


    Galway showed last year that Kilkenny were beatable by 'ordinary' teams but we didn't kick on. Same problem areas were not addressed by several management teams. Where's Paul Killeen this year, not wanting him thrown into a unorganised backline just yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Last years version of Galway would have walked the AI this year imo. Not entirely sure what happened between Sept - May this year but they're a shadow of last years team. Reportedly a lot of infighting in the squad but it could be all hearsay, you don't know. Something went very wrong anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    What has happened to Cormac Bane? Agree that this Galway forward line just needs a competitive midfield n half back platform They also as a squad need another years fitness work


    Bane left the panel last year as he felt his form was not good and he was not getting any game time. He now has a young baby so I doubt we will see him back playing for Galway. Mulholland wants to move onto the next generation of Galway players. He hasnt really wanted to know about the Cormac generation of players.

    In fairness, Galway do have comptetition at midfield as O'Curraoin & Flynn were very much vying for that number 9 shirt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    As a neutral in Croker on Saturday I was impressed with Galway. They played a lot better then I expected. They played some old school traditional football and kicked some lovely long range scores. Conroy is a real leader and you can see he's constantly talking to the players and driving them on.

    Meehan was fantastic too, class act.

    A strong Galway is good for football so hopefully you can build on that display.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Moneymaker wrote: »
    As a neutral in Croker on Saturday I was impressed with Galway. They played a lot better then I expected. They played some old school traditional football and kicked some lovely long range scores. Conroy is a real leader and you can see he's constantly talking to the players and driving them on.

    Meehan was fantastic too, class act.

    A strong Galway is good for football so hopefully you can build on that display.

    Honestly this is what frightens me. If this makes Mulholland think he should, in the main, keep trying to play old school Connacht football he's on to a loser. If I was a manager I'd be mortified at conceding 20 points in 70 minutes and be seeing it as something I need to urgently correct.

    A great performance by Galway in the context of where they were coming from but it for their sakes it shouldn't be a template for anything other than a physiological boost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    Syferus wrote: »
    Honestly this is what frightens me. If this makes Mulholland think he should, in the main, keep trying to play old school Connacht football he's on to a loser. If I was a manager I'd be mortified at conceding 20 points in 70 minutes and be seeing it as something I need to urgently correct.

    A great performance by Galway in the context of where they were coming from but it for their sakes it shouldn't be a template for anything other than a physiological boost.

    Thats very true.

    Was refreshing to see a match where two teams lined up in traditional formations however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭aramush


    Its worth noting that both teams (especially Cork) got a lot of men behind the ball but didn't know how to utilise it effectively so not exactly living up to past traditions entirely. It was refreshing to see a good game of football though, a lot of well taken scores.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭spiritcrusher


    Interesting to hear Mullholland's interview on Galway Bay the morning afterwards. He was saying that last year after the Antrim game players just wanted to get away and hide (or something to that effect) but on Saturday after everyone had calmed down a little the first question he was asked was when are they going back training.

    I didn't think AM's tactics were overly "traditional" really, there was some use of blanket defence there. Now we may only have dropped 2 or 3 extra players back and had Denvir do the sweeper role but given how, as a county, we tend to produce more quality forwards than backs I can't imagine you'll ever see 13 or 14 men behind the ball if we want our best players on the field.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    At least the club championship will be good again, especially if Portumna play Thomas's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭MfMan


    At least the club championship will be good again, especially if Portumna play Thomas's.

    The club c'ship is in general of a good standard, which makes it all the more mysterious why players can't play properly for the county. Maybe the Thomas' lads should wear their club jersey under the county one for comfort....


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