Baby shot by muggers because his mother had no money.

Overheal · 26-07-2013 05:25PM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Can you elaborate on that or is cartoons the extent of your ability to communicate ?

Overheal · 26-07-2013 05:36PM

Gatling wrote: »

And its not possible for a violent criminal to actually guilty

Blaming the mother is just lazy defending by his legal team being honest ,
You think they would be all over the media screaming his innocence,
No just let blame the mother apparently she has mental
Health issues

His "legal team" would have to consist of the dead baby's 21 year old sister then, who told police she had reasons to suspect her mother. And not "just" for mental health issues, or a history of child neglect, but conflicting statements to how the incident occurred. Also the fact that both the mother AND the father who claimed to be nowhere near the scene of the crime BOTH tested positive for gun powder residue on their hands.

Grant you, nobody has been convicted of the murder yet. It's still an ongoing investigation and criminal case.

Killer Wench · 26-07-2013 09:59PM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I see what happened, you misread the post. That wasnt actually the argument she was making, the end of that sentence was a side note to say she didnt accuse anyone of killing the baby for money. No rebuttal from killer Wench either, sneaking in a thanks on overheals misinformed post knowing full well thats not what she actually meant

I'll spell it out for those too lazy to read posts before throwing in their two cents.

Its not enlightening, so she seems to mean ironic. You cant say its ironic without assuming she's guilty, the exact thing she had a shít fit over when others assumed the initial suspects were guilty.

Do you understand what enlightening means? Informative, educational, To shed light on.

I had a sh*t fit over the fact that two (maybe more) posters followed me to other threads mocking my suspicions on this case. Let's be real here - a few posters dismissed the possibility because they do not understand the racial dynamics of American society. I posted this months ago when this thread was originally created:

Actually, I am going to wait for more details. There were numerous other stories involving the mother killing her children then blaming a Black dude for the crime. Now, they have suspects for this case but my skeptic(al) nature wonders if the father was involved.

Miss Lockhart · 26-07-2013 10:11PM

Killer Wench, it's coming across as if you are happy enough for others, and indeed yourself, to engage in speculation and to attribute likely guilt to others based on media stories, so long as this speculation and judgement doesn't involve negative stereotyping of black people.

Killer Wench · 26-07-2013 10:18PM

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

Killer Wench, it's coming across as if you are happy enough for others, and indeed yourself, to engage in speculation and to attribute likely guilt to others based on media stories, so long as this speculation and judgement doesn't involve negative stereotyping of black people.

I'm happy that what was viewed as a dissenting opinion - that the boys didn't do it - is now a strong possibility. Pages and pages of people thinking that they were guilty based off of the woman's story.

As I have mentioned, other posters followed me into other threads mocking my opinion on this case.

Miss Lockhart · 26-07-2013 10:22PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

I'm happy that what was viewed as a dissenting opinion - that the boys didn't do it - is now a strong possibility. Pages and pages of people thinking that they were guilty based off of the woman's story.

As I have mentioned, other posters followed me into other threads mocking my opinion on this case.

Yes. I understand that. I don't understand your speculation and casting of aspersions given some of your statements earlier in the thread. Tbh it seems like a bit of a pick and mix approach to the ethics of speculating on media stories depending on what suits your opinion.

Artful_Badger · 26-07-2013 10:25PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

Do you understand what enlightening means? Informative, educational, To shed light on.

And what could possibly be enlightening about the fact she accused the two kids of killing the baby during a mugging ? Nothing. You're simply looking for something to try connect it with what you believe to be her motives because you believe she is guilty. Same nonsense that other poster is doing with the kids previous records or whatever he was on about. Looking for stuff to confirm what you have already decided is the truth.

I had a sh*t fit over the fact that two (maybe more) posters followed me to other threads mocking my suspicions on this case. Let's be real here - a few posters dismissed the possibility because they do not understand the racial dynamics of American society. I posted this months ago when this thread was originally created:

I dont know anything of other posters following you around and I'm sorry for the shít fit remark. It just seemed to me that you were having a go at all those who decided the two kids were guilty right from the start.

You were sceptical of what happened because it was a white woman accusing two black kids (which in itself is a prejudiced view) , first sign that it may have been the mother and you seem to decide she's guilty. How is that any different than what others did ?

moneyman · 26-07-2013 11:53PM

Gatling wrote: »

Unconnected violent robbery using a firearm ,
Murders a baby in a violent robbery using a firearm 10 days later

No connection at all there

Really ,

Seriously

Wow, you're post is really ****ing dumb.

(Attacking the post, not the poster :pac:)

Duggy747 · 31-08-2013 02:39AM

Update to this story, the eldest teen has been found guilty with the younger teen's trial set at a later date:

An 18-year-old man was convicted of murder in the shooting of a baby who was riding in a stroller alongside his mom in a town in coastal Georgia despite the defense’s attempt to cast guilt upon several others, including the child’s parents.

Jurors deliberated about two hours before finding De’Marquise Elkins guilty of 11 counts, including two counts of felony murder and one count of malice murder in the March 21 killing of 13-month-old Antonio Santiago in Brunswick. The man’s mother, Karimah Elkins, was on trial alongside him and was found guilty of tampering with evidence but acquitted of lying to police.

De’Marquise Elkins faces life in prison when he is sentenced at a later date. At the time of the shooting he was 17, too young to face the death penalty under Georgia law.

Source: Washington Post

The Rad Runner · 31-08-2013 06:56PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

Update to this story, the eldest teen has been found guilty with the younger teen's trial set at a later date:

Color me surprised :rolleyes:

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

I think it's quite weird that those so ardently defending the teenagers seem so eager to act as judge and jury for the parents.

+1000