Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

KINGVictor · 24-07-2013 08:11PM

tayto lover wrote: »

There's a big chance that we could end up with neither Higuain or Suarez because we allowed things to be drawn out.

We should make Liverpool an offer of 50 million and then go about our business of filling the other gaps in the team.

Stop the auld messing and get on with it.
I don't give a damn what the players cost, that's for the accountants to worry about.

I agree with you to a large extent but then the accountants will be doing a lot of Cost/Benefit analyses especially if signing Suarez will cost 50 Million- thats a lot of nuts for one player. A counter argument is that we could have signed Hig and Fellani for that amount- However given the lack of alternatives we have at the moment, I will wholeheartedly support a 50 million move for him (if) they can make another good signing alongside Suarez.

Id say forget the BS about Suarez's past- the fact is that he will be a phenomenal addition to Arsenal and despite the high level of cynicism, having Suarez as our top striker is a guaranteed 30 goals for the season- add that to Giroud, Pod and Walcott, we will be in very good shape for the new season.

Mr.Micro · 24-07-2013 08:18PM

tayto lover wrote: »

There's a big chance that we could end up with neither Higuain or Suarez because we allowed things to be drawn out.

We should make Liverpool an offer of 50 million and then go about our business of filling the other gaps in the team.

Stop the auld messing and get on with it.
I don't give a damn what the players cost, that's for the accountants to worry about.

Real Madrid's Gonzalo Higuain arrives for Napoli medical

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23442542

I suppose we can take it he is not coming to us.

jester77 · 24-07-2013 08:18PM

We should throw in Bendtner as a sweetner

24-07-2013 08:26PM

gosplan wrote: »

Not at all.

With no major players out, Wenger could sign a couple of Afro French squad players and we'd be good for top four again,

The club are looking to push on and are prepared to spend money doing it. I find that refreshing and am enthusiastic about the future regardless of whether we get Suarez or not.

As an aside I'd worry about the mental health of anyone who genuinely believed that the club ate throwing up some doomed-to-fail smokescreen to make it look like they're interested in depending money.

Top 4, yay!

.jacksparrow. · 24-07-2013 08:28PM

About Real Madrid...
Quote:
Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC 18m
@SteveJacksdad don't think it will be long before they come to the table. And that will change everything

bad2dabone · 24-07-2013 08:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Top 4, yay!

KINGVictor · 24-07-2013 08:42PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

About Real Madrid...
Quote:
Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC 18m
@SteveJacksdad don't think it will be long before they come to the table. And that will change everything

How will they bid for and intend to sign both Bale and Suarez- even for Real, that will be a tall order.

TheBza · 24-07-2013 08:44PM

KINGVictor wrote: »

How will they bid for and intend to sign both Bale and Suarez- even for Real, that will be a tall order.

They don't need Bale, but Suarez would be a nice replacement for Higuain.

gandalf · 24-07-2013 08:46PM

jester77 wrote: »

We should throw in Bendtner as a sweetner

I think that would have the same effect on any transfer as a French kiss would at a family reunion!

24-07-2013 08:48PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

Can you point out anything you disagree with or think is inaccurate? I was replying to someone who is already making the annual shift towards the usual mentality that plagues many Arsenal fans.

tony1kenobi · 24-07-2013 08:49PM

If we leave it to the dying seconds to buy Suarez Liverpool might panic buy and give us 35 million for Bendtner.

gosplan · 24-07-2013 08:59PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Top 4, yay!

Dude, you're either not reading my posts or totally missing the point.

24-07-2013 09:00PM

gosplan wrote: »

Dude, you're either not reading my posts or totally missing the point.

What is it exactly so?

speedboatchase · 24-07-2013 09:00PM

Seems to me that Real are targeting Bale right now, and prob have Suarez pencilled in as their back-up big signing. It's so important that we come back with another bid soon before Real have time to move. There will be a huge drop in quality for available strikers in the transfer market if Suarez moves.

gosplan · 24-07-2013 09:01PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Can you point out anything you disagree with or think is inaccurate? I was replying to someone who is already making the annual shift towards the usual mentality that plagues many Arsenal fans.

No, you didn't read my posts.

Si technically it is your sh1t

bad2dabone · 24-07-2013 09:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Can you point out anything you disagree with or think is inaccurate? I was replying to someone who is already making the annual shift towards the usual mentality that plagues many Arsenal fans.

Top 4 is a minimum requirement for arsenal, but realistically there's been one spot up for grabs. between the two oil rich clubs with practically unlimited budgets, city have spent nearly 100 mil so far. And united. Arsenal have, despite being restricted Financially, done well to remain in the top echelon of teams. There's fierce competition to get into the cl. But nobody is happy with merely top 4. we all want more from the club, and this season there's a feeling that we've got an opportunity to push on. However You relentlessly bitch and moan about without offering anything worthwhile to the debate. you're a downer, and im tired of it.

.jacksparrow. · 24-07-2013 09:03PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Seems to me that Real are targeting Bale right now, and prob have Suarez pencilled in as their back-up big signing. It's so important that we come back with another bid soon before Real have time to move. There will be a huge drop in quality for available strikers in the transfer market if Suarez moves.

Real will already have let his agents know if they were interested, so make no mistake, doesn't matter how quick we put in a bid, if real want him pool will sell to them.

liamygunner29 · 24-07-2013 09:06PM

TheBza wrote: »

Im still completely on the fence with this Suarez move, would it disrupt the team? I presume Sagna , Giroud and Diaby are friends with Evra, and also, our other black players how would they feel with all that's went on?

those french whores are friends with nobody

gosplan · 24-07-2013 09:07PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What is it exactly so?

Fear: Wenger and Arsenal perfect for greedy owners. Keep club in CL on positive net spend. Win nothing but who cares? Make mucho casho.

Evidence that fear was incorrect: outlandish 20, 35 and 40 million bids, attempting to spend big to placate supporters and push club on.

24-07-2013 09:18PM

gosplan wrote: »

Fear: Wenger and Arsenal perfect for greedy owners. Keep club in CL on positive net spend. Win nothing but who cares? Make mucho casho.

Evidence that fear was incorrect: outlandish 20, 35 and 40 million bids, attempting to spend big to placate supporters and push club on.

Outlandish how? There's been nothing to counter the fact (not fear) that has been borne out for the last 5 years. The hope that we might finally start spending is just that, a hope.
I'm wondering how I misinterpreted the first post I quoted. Looks like you'd be happy enough with 4th and no spending (challenge in itself) if that's what the club feel is right.
I fear for the mental health of someone who takes anything a club says seriously and bases opinions of that. Actions (confirmed ones and ones which actually have an effect) are what opinions should be based on. We have made a free signing so far this summer, that's it.
If we are going to look at what the club says as meaning anything then the "we have loooooooads of money to spend" thing is the exact opposite of what someone actually looking for value-for-money should be doing.

KINGVictor · 24-07-2013 09:24PM

TheBza wrote: »

They don't need Bale, but Suarez would be a nice replacement for Higuain.

Well reports in the media suggest otherwise. I think they want Bale badly

.jacksparrow. · 24-07-2013 09:40PM

What the

Jack Widnell ‏@jackwfootball 1m
The Guardian reports that Liverpool are considering legal action against Arsenal who broke PL rules finding the clause in Suarez's contract.

MrBoywunder ‏@MrBoywunder 57s
#LFC are prepared for a protracted and potentially legal dispute with Arsenal over Suarez's contract. (Andy Hunter)

24-07-2013 09:41PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

What the

Jack Widnell ‏@jackwfootball 1m
The Guardian reports that Liverpool are considering legal action against Arsenal who broke PL rules finding the clause in Suarez's contract.

MrBoywunder ‏@MrBoywunder 57s
#LFC are prepared for a protracted and potentially legal dispute with Arsenal over Suarez's contract. (Andy Hunter)

Yeah someone on the Liverpool thread said the offer suggested "insider knowledge" or something. How something that's been in the papers for the last few weeks wouldn't count as public knowledge is beyond me.

JPA · 24-07-2013 09:46PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

What the

Jack Widnell ‏@jackwfootball 1m
The Guardian reports that Liverpool are considering legal action against Arsenal who broke PL rules finding the clause in Suarez's contract.

MrBoywunder ‏@MrBoywunder 57s
#LFC are prepared for a protracted and potentially legal dispute with Arsenal over Suarez's contract. (Andy Hunter)

Interesting but clubs talk to agents, everybody knows that.

gosplan · 24-07-2013 10:05PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Outlandish how? There's been nothing to counter the fact (not fear) that has been borne out for the last 5 years. The hope that we might finally start spending is just that, a hope.
I'm wondering how I misinterpreted the first post I quoted. Looks like you'd be happy enough with 4th and no spending (challenge in itself) if that's what the club feel is right.
I fear for the mental health of someone who takes anything a club says seriously and bases opinions of that. Actions (confirmed ones and ones which actually have an effect) are what opinions should be based on. We have made a free signing so far this summer, that's it.
If we are going to look at what the club says as meaning anything then the "we have loooooooads of money to spend" thing is the exact opposite of what someone actually looking for value-for-money should be doing.

OK so we just ignore the fact that the club seems to be repeatedly trying to break the transfer record?

The first thing you quoted was a continuation of the point where you thought I was taking the piss or something.

To achieve top 4, nothing is really needed. These deals are clearly a new attempt by the club to move forward, one which until now we've only been told would happen.

But you're saying I can't base opinions on them because they mightn't have an effect?? Hmmmm.

gandalf · 24-07-2013 10:08PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

What the

Jack Widnell ‏@jackwfootball 1m
The Guardian reports that Liverpool are considering legal action against Arsenal who broke PL rules finding the clause in Suarez's contract.

MrBoywunder ‏@MrBoywunder 57s
#LFC are prepared for a protracted and potentially legal dispute with Arsenal over Suarez's contract. (Andy Hunter)

Reading between the lines I think the management have resigned themselves to the fact that Suarez is leaving, probably to us and they are covering their tracks to placate the "passionate" Liverpool fans so they can say they tried their best to stop the transfer. The fact that there was a clause at 40 million has been common knowledge for months.

jester77 · 24-07-2013 10:16PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

What the

Jack Widnell ‏@jackwfootball 1m
The Guardian reports that Liverpool are considering legal action against Arsenal who broke PL rules finding the clause in Suarez's contract.

MrBoywunder ‏@MrBoywunder 57s
#LFC are prepared for a protracted and potentially legal dispute with Arsenal over Suarez's contract. (Andy Hunter)

Interesting, sounds like Liverpool are panicking. This was common knowledge long before Arsenal made any bid. There must be more to this, maybe it is actually a release clause as was earlier rumoured.

speedboatchase · 24-07-2013 10:16PM

Napoli have agreed a deal with Jackson Martinez for €40m. Two €40m strikers in one day. Ambition, eh? Another striker down if we lose out on Suarez.

gandalf · 24-07-2013 10:19PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Napoli have agreed a deal with Jackson Martinez for €40m. Two €40m strikers in one day. Ambition, eh? Another striker down if we lose out on Suarez.

Jaysus Higuain maybe spending a bit of time on the Napoli bench as well!

brianregan09 · 24-07-2013 10:20PM

Is he not more a winger though that cuts in , Not an out and out striker

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