Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016

Johnboy1951 · 22-07-2013 12:58PM

The ESB don't even have to bring Fibre to the home ...... they could (in rural areas in particular) bring it to a fixed wireless spot and serve the locality that way.

For years now this has been spoken of, wished for and watched for ..... will it really happen?

It should have happened years go ..... and no one would care about Eircom now.

kaizersoze · 22-07-2013 01:05PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

A machine a bit like a mini cable car runs between the pylons winds the fibre around it.

SkyWrap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-TPB5h3sm0

Mark Spilane · 22-07-2013 01:27PM

Danny Boy wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/energy-and-resources/esb-seeks-partner-to-set-up-fibre-network-1.1470736

Looks like the ESB have their own rollout planned

When will this happen though. Not just pilot schemes, but to any house that wants it. Eircom would be finished.
I know plenty of people who would pay thousands to get FTTH.

Its about time Eircom had some competition. At the moment it doesnt matter who you pay your bill to, Eircom wont move their ass to fix your line and there is nothing anyone else can do about it.
You have Vodafone blaming Eircom and Eircom blaming vodafone for problems.
It will be much better when you actually can go to a competitor.

red_bairn · 22-07-2013 01:46PM

bk wrote: »

400 million should be about right for 450,000 homes.

That works out at about €888 per home.

In the US, it costs Verizon $600 per home to connect to their Fibre network using overhead fibre cables like the ESB are planning to do here.

So the maths add up.

You would need about 1.4 billion to do every home in Ireland (1.6 million homes), but they don't seem to be planning to do that, yet!

BTW Eircom certainly aren't investing 1.4 billion in their rollout, it is more like 500 million for this current FFTB VDSL network they are currently building.

Whats that?

All I could find was this.

bk · 22-07-2013 05:52PM

red_bairn wrote: »

Whats that?

Sorry, that should have been FTTC, Fibre To The Cabinet

funnyname · 23-07-2013 10:48AM

Would be great if they also partnered a with a few FWA companies and community groups like the one Big Lar has set up.

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

The ESB don't even have to bring Fibre to the home ...... they could (in rural areas in particular) bring it to a fixed wireless spot and serve the locality that way.

For years now this has been spoken of, wished for and watched for ..... will it really happen?

It should have happened years go ..... and no one would care about Eircom now.

SpaceTime · 23-07-2013 11:57AM

bk wrote: »

Sorry, that should have been FTTC, Fibre To The Cabinet

Fibre to the building usually means for apartment buildings. That would be very useless in most of Ireland.

Mark Spilane · 23-07-2013 03:30PM

funnyname wrote: »

Would be great if they also partnered a with a few FWA companies and community groups like the one Big Lar has set up.

Do you have anymore info on these?

SpaceTime · 23-07-2013 03:39PM

I'm still a bit baffled about what's going on with my e-fibre order.

Sent in an order online on 14/07 - heard nothing since other than a generic welcome to e-fibre email.

The customer care online team seems to think this is just how it is and to wait.

bealtine · 23-07-2013 03:48PM

Mark Spilane wrote: »

Do you have anymore info on these?

Most of them are outlined here:

http://ioffl.dlinkddns.com/

Mark Spilane · 23-07-2013 04:34PM

bealtine wrote: »

Most of them are outlined here:

http://ioffl.dlinkddns.com/

Thanks.
But I dont see anything about community groups on there.
No matter. Since only 3 people in our whole townland cant get fibre on their lines there isnt much point in a community group of three.

TheChizler · 23-07-2013 07:55PM

bealtine wrote: »

Most of them are outlined here:

http://ioffl.dlinkddns.com/

Dey tuk urr map!

eggman99 · 23-07-2013 08:22PM

It still says August on the NGA map at the earliest

eggman99 · 23-07-2013 08:23PM

TheChizler wrote: »

Dey tuk urr map!

Bring the map back, start a petition lol

Mark Spilane · 24-07-2013 06:50PM

Is there anything here where you can pay Eircom to bring fibre to your home. Like BT Openreach. I know a lot of people who would pay thousands to get FTTH or thousands just to get any kind of decent BB, but Eircom dont seem to want their money.

Mc Love · 24-07-2013 08:43PM

They were trialling it in dublin or wicklow afaik

red_bairn · 24-07-2013 08:48PM

Mc Love wrote: »

They were trialling it in dublin or wicklow afaik

This

I_HAVE_NO_NAME · 24-07-2013 09:18PM

red_bairn wrote: »

This

They trialed it in Sandyford and Wexford town

bealtine · 24-07-2013 09:36PM

Mark Spilane wrote: »

Is there anything here where you can pay Eircom to bring fibre to your home. Like BT Openreach. I know a lot of people who would pay thousands to get FTTH or thousands just to get any kind of decent BB, but Eircom dont seem to want their money.

Not at this time but it would be a good idea

Mark Spilane · 24-07-2013 09:41PM

bealtine wrote: »

Not at this time but it would be a good idea

The only option for some people since Eircom cant be bothered unless its easy.
Maybe Eircom might make a few quid on it now. They are just throwing awayu money offered to them

I_HAVE_NO_NAME · 25-07-2013 02:39AM

Anybody got a rough idea of what speed I'd get with fibre if I'm currently get between 1-2 Megabits . And say I'm on the 70Mb/20Mb pack I presume that would make a difference

TheChizler · 25-07-2013 02:44AM

I_HAVE_NO_NAME wrote: »

Anybody got a rough idea of what speed I'd get with fibre if I'm currently get between 1-2 Megabits . And say I'm on the 70Mb/20Mb pack I presume that would make a difference

Impossible to say! Only information we could possibly speculate from is the distance from you to your local cabinet. If a neighbour has it see what they get maybe?

nitna bitna · 25-07-2013 03:21AM

I JUST HAD A NICE FIBRE ROLLOUT DER NOW

kaizersoze · 25-07-2013 08:46AM

I_HAVE_NO_NAME wrote: »

Anybody got a rough idea of what speed I'd get with fibre if I'm currently get between 1-2 Megabits . And say I'm on the 70Mb/20Mb pack I presume that would make a difference

As said, it depends on your distance from your fibre cabinet.
Your current speed makes no difference as that is mostly dictated by your distance from the exchange.

The 'Line length' in the chart below is the distance from the fibre cabinet followed by the speeds you could expect at those distances.
They won't sell you eFibre over 1000m (1Km) from your cabinet,although I've heard of them going to 1200m in some cases.

SpaceTime · 25-07-2013 08:52AM

I would would assume they'll need extra equipment at the cabinet to do FTTH though?

Have they laid sufficient fibre to allow for it ?

bealtine · 25-07-2013 08:55AM

I_HAVE_NO_NAME wrote: »

Anybody got a rough idea of what speed I'd get with fibre if I'm currently get between 1-2 Megabits . And say I'm on the 70Mb/20Mb pack I presume that would make a difference

There's no fibre to you....still copper from the nearest cabinet.

The idea of this VDSL rollout is to bring the exchange closer to you so your current speed/attenuation is irrelevant, it's all down to where the neatest cabinet is.

tdonegan1990 · 25-07-2013 10:29AM

is there anyway to find out your line length? my closet cabinet is a 2min walk to the top of my street.

gerryk · 25-07-2013 10:48AM

tdonegan1990 wrote: »

is there anyway to find out your line length? my closet cabinet is a 2min walk to the top of my street.

Assume the worst-case scenario. If the longest reasonable path the line could take is within the limits, you should be ok.

TheChizler · 25-07-2013 11:33AM

kaizersoze wrote: »

As said, it depends on your distance from your fibre cabinet.
Your current speed makes no difference as that is mostly dictated by your distance from the exchange.

The 'Line length' in the chart below is the distance from the fibre cabinet followed by the speeds you could expect at those distances.
They won't sell you eFibre over 1000m (1Km) from your cabinet,although I've heard of them going to 1200m in some cases.

Actually do we know if these are practical line-length/rates or EM Field Theory nice-straight-ideal-line/rates?

MikeyJoyce · 25-07-2013 11:38AM

TheChizler wrote: »

Actually do we know if these are practical line-length/rates or EM Field Theory nice-straight-ideal-line/rates?

Yeah has anyone any information on how they calculate the lines length?

Following the Road my Cabinet is 1000m away because it goes arse ways around

But straight line distance from the cabinet is around 400m

Do they calculate based on the Road or do they just measure the distance from the house to the cabinet?

Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016

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