What are ye're views on gay adoption?

corklad12 · 22-07-2013 03:51PM #1

We can see that gay rights have improved a lot in the last 20 years. With the introduction of the civil partnership bill and also people are a lot more accepting of LGBT people than they were in the 1970/80. But would you be in favor of same sex adoption?

PizzamanIRL · 22-07-2013 03:53PM

Cause I need to know now, can you love me again?

SweepTheLeg · 22-07-2013 03:53PM

corklad12 wrote: »

But would you be in favor of same sex adoption?

No sane reason to be against it.

bumper234 · 22-07-2013 03:54PM

I would be in favour of it. As far as i am concerned the focus should be on whats best for the child not the parents sexuality.

lkionm · 22-07-2013 03:55PM

Great bunch of lads

VinLieger · 22-07-2013 03:55PM

Well considering adoption by a gay person isnt illegal your question is kinda pointless, the real issue is gay couples arent allowed adopt as a couple so only one of the parents can be legally listed as a guardian and if something happens to that parent then the child is taken away from its other parent simply because they arent a legally recognised guardian

COYVB · 22-07-2013 03:56PM

SweepTheLeg wrote: »

No sane reason to be against it.

This is the long and the short of it for me. Absolutely no logical reason to decry it

December2012 · 22-07-2013 03:56PM

I support it.

1ZRed · 22-07-2013 03:56PM

Scientifically there is no difference between how a straight couple raises their child in comparison to a gay couple. There is also no negative impact on a child with two gay parents, so there's actually no valid reason to oppose same-sex adoption at all.

Anyone who is still against it when all evidence points to there being no difference between the two forms of parenting is just confirming their prejudice.

OldNotWIse · 22-07-2013 03:57PM

This thread is disappointing.

I was expecting lots of pitchforks and banners.

Damn

mad turnip · 22-07-2013 03:57PM

Working with children in an 8-11 age group, I'm completely against it. The kids with single sex parents (usually single mothers or lesbian mothers in my experience) stick out like a sore thumb and you can just see so much wrong with the child even after only knowing them for an hour or two, I've seen some people argue that they will find other sex role models, well in my experience they do not....

edit: these views are based on about 100 kids over 4 years in the north dublin area.

Christ the Redeemer · 22-07-2013 03:58PM

Only cretins oppose it.

PizzamanIRL · 22-07-2013 03:59PM

I'm against it because it's selfish of the parents. They're basically saying they want to be gay but have the same benefits/possibilities as a straight couple - a child.

The child will more than likely have a bad childhood having gay parents thanks to society.

I'm not against gay people, I'm against gay people adopting/having kids.

OldNotWIse · 22-07-2013 04:00PM

mad turnip wrote: »

Working with children in an 8-11 age group, I'm completely against it. The kids with single sex parents (usually single mothers or lesbian mothers in my experience) stick out like a sore thumb and you can just see so much wrong with the child even after only knowing them for an hour or two, I've seen some people argue that they will find other sex role models, well in my experience they do not....

Yes, that gives your opinion authority over ours.

My godson's mother is single...he has recently sprouted a second head.

Iano_128 · 22-07-2013 04:00PM

I'm sure I'll probably be slated for saying what I'm going to say but how and ever....

Before I start I'd just like to say that I've nothing against gay people, I have gay friends and we're pretty sure my little brother is gay, so before anyone starts, I'm not a homophobe, don't hate gay people etc etc.

Does anyone here really not think it could be a bit unfair on the child? Let's be honest, kids with same sex parents are almost guaranteed to come across bullying because of it, then you've got the possible problem of a child growing up thinking that being in a same sex relationship is the correct way to be "because that's what Daddy(s)/ Mammy(s) do so it must be right.

You also have the possible problem of kids of same sex couples going over to friends houses and being confused when they see a man and woman together.

Kia_Kaha · 22-07-2013 04:02PM

I'd love to adopted by gays. There's no downside: great meals, new wardrobe. Where do I sign up?

Sarky · 22-07-2013 04:02PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

This thread is disappointing.

I was expecting lots of pitchforks and banners.

Damn

There's an abortion thread on the go too, they'll be fairly busy making tits of themselves there.

mad turnip · 22-07-2013 04:03PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Yes, that gives your opinion authority over ours.

My godson's mother is single...he has recently sprouted a second head.

Stop putting words in my mouth, Thanks very much... You don't have to agree with my opinion but comments like that are just rude.

Ken. · 22-07-2013 04:03PM

Iano_128 wrote: »

I'm sure I'll probably be slated for saying what I'm going to say but how and ever....

Before I start I'd just like to say that I've nothing against gay people, I have gay friends and we're pretty sure my little brother is gay, so before anyone starts, I'm not a homophobe, don't hate gay people etc etc.

Does anyone here really not think it could be a bit unfair on the child? Let's be honest, kids with same sex parents are almost guaranteed to come across bullying because of it, then you've got the possible problem of a child growing up thinking that being in a same sex relationship is the correct way to be "because that's what Daddy(s)/ Mammy(s) do so it must be right.

You also have the possible problem of kids of same sex couples going over to friends houses and being confused when they see a man and woman together.

Better to be brought up in a loving home than a succession of adoption/foster homes.

Christ the Redeemer · 22-07-2013 04:03PM

mad turnip wrote: »

Working with children in an 8-11 age group, I'm completely against it. The kids with single sex parents (usually single mothers or lesbian mothers in my experience) stick out like a sore thumb and you can just see so much wrong with the child even after only knowing them for an hour or two, I've seen some people argue that they will find other sex role models, well in my experience they do not....

edit: these views are based on about 100 kids over 4 years in the north dublin area.

A School of Medicine professor of paediatrics at Boston University calls this all baloney.

“Many studies have demonstrated that children’s well-being is affected much more by their relationships with their parents, their parents’ sense of competence and security, and the presence of social and economic support for the family than by the gender or the sexual orientation of their parents,” Siegel writes with coauthor Ellen Perrin, a Tufts University professor of pediatrics and director of developmental and behavioral pediatrics.

http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parents-as-good-as-straight-ones/

OldNotWIse · 22-07-2013 04:03PM

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

I'm against it because it's selfish of the parents. They're basically saying they want to be gay but have the same benefits/possibilities as a straight couple - a child.

The child will more than likely have a bad childhood having gay parents thanks to society.

I'm not against gay people, I'm against gay people adopting/having kids.

Well sadly for you, some of us have perfectly functioning reproductive systems and intend to use them. There's nothing you can do about it.

Haaaa-ha

Though its nice to know you're "not against gay people" - I can sleep easy knowing i have your blessing.

OldNotWIse · 22-07-2013 04:05PM

mad turnip wrote: »

Stop putting words in my mouth, Thanks very much... You don't have to agree with my opinion but comments like that are just rude.

b...b....but...its true!

You insult every single mother and everly lesbian in Ireland...and accuse me of being rude. Now thats just...rude :rolleyes:

Corkfeen · 22-07-2013 04:06PM

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

I'm against it because it's selfish of the parents. They're basically saying they want to be gay but have the same benefits/possibilities as a straight couple - a child.

The child will more than likely have a bad childhood having gay parents thanks to society.

I'm not against gay people, I'm against gay people adopting/having kids.

Firstly, nobody chooses to be gay. Secondly, there's no evidence that children raised by gay parents have any different a childhood to any other child. They're as good parents as anyone else.

1ZRed · 22-07-2013 04:06PM

Iano_128 wrote: »

I'm sure I'll probably be slated for saying what I'm going to say but how and ever....

Before I start I'd just like to say that I've nothing against gay people, I have gay friends and we're pretty sure my little brother is gay, so before anyone starts, I'm not a homophobe, don't hate gay people etc etc.

Does anyone here really not think it could be a bit unfair on the child? Let's be honest, kids with same sex parents are almost guaranteed to come across bullying because of it, then you've got the possible problem of a child growing up thinking that being in a same sex relationship is the correct way to be "because that's what Daddy(s)/ Mammy(s) do so it must be right.

You also have the possible problem of kids of same sex couples going over to friends houses and being confused when they see a man and woman together.

We should ban gingers from having kids so on grounds of bullying.

I always think this point that they'll get bullied so we should be against it is pure and utter bullshít.

You'd teach your kids to be tolerant of other races and not to be a racist so why not teach them to also not bully or treat kids with gay parents any differently either? But no, that's too much effort.

Ffs you'd have to be some lazy parent not to bother your ass in doing that much. If you don't want the kids of gay parents to get bullied then do your part and teach your own kids it's wrong to do it, just like you'd teach them it's wrong to be racist.

December2012 · 22-07-2013 04:07PM

mad turnip wrote: »

Working with children in an 8-11 age group, I'm completely against it. The kids with single sex parents (usually single mothers or lesbian mothers in my experience) stick out like a sore thumb and you can just see so much wrong with the child even after only knowing them for an hour or two, I've seen some people argue that they will find other sex role models, well in my experience they do not....

edit: these views are based on about 100 kids over 4 years in the north dublin area.

So.... would you ban single people being parents too?

OldNotWIse · 22-07-2013 04:07PM

1ZRed wrote: »

We should ban gingers from having kids so on grounds of bullying.

I always think this point that they'll get bullying is pure and utter bullshít.

You'd teach your kids to be tolerant of other races and not to be a racist so why not teach them to also not bully or treat kids with gay parents any differently either. But no, that's too much effort.

Ffs you'd have to be some lazy parent not to bother your ass in doing that much. If you don't want the kids of gay parents to get bullied then do your part and teach your own kids it's wrong to do it, just like you'd teach them it's wrong to be racist.

Yup, who will they be bullied by? Children of closed-minded homophobes of course.They wont teach them its wrong because secretly they want to propagate the idea that being gay is bad.

ps I was bullied relentlessly at school for being pretty and smart (and modest lol) - and my parents are straight (though I do wonder about my Dad's excellent culinary skills)

mad turnip · 22-07-2013 04:07PM

Christ the Redeemer wrote: »

A School of Medicine professor of paediatrics at Boston University calls this all baloney.

http://www.bu.edu/today/2013/gay-parents-as-good-as-straight-ones/

I'd say his conclusions are completely correct, just in the United States. In Several years time maybe the same study will have the same results here, but from my work with children, I believe its harmful to them in current Irish society.

PizzamanIRL · 22-07-2013 04:08PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Well sadly for you, some of us have perfectly functioning reproductive systems and intend to use them. There's nothing you can do about it.

Haaaa-ha

Though its nice to know you're "not against gay people" - I can sleep easy knowing i have your blessing.

Why do you sound so salty?

bumper234 · 22-07-2013 04:08PM

Iano_128 wrote: »

I'm sure I'll probably be slated for saying what I'm going to say but how and ever....

Before I start I'd just like to say that I've nothing against gay people, I have gay friends and we're pretty sure my little brother is gay, so before anyone starts, I'm not a homophobe, don't hate gay people etc etc.

Does anyone here really not think it could be a bit unfair on the child? Let's be honest, kids with same sex parents are almost guaranteed to come across bullying because of it, then you've got the possible problem of a child growing up thinking that being in a same sex relationship is the correct way to be "because that's what Daddy(s)/ Mammy(s) do so it must be right.

You also have the possible problem of kids of same sex couples going over to friends houses and being confused when they see a man and woman together.

Have heard of kids comitting suicide over bullying. You know how many have mentioned they had same sex parents? 0

MrPain · 22-07-2013 04:09PM

Iano_128 wrote: »

I'm sure I'll probably be slated for saying what I'm going to say but how and ever....

Before I start I'd just like to say that I've nothing against gay people, I have gay friends and we're pretty sure my little brother is gay, so before anyone starts, I'm not a homophobe, don't hate gay people etc etc.

Does anyone here really not think it could be a bit unfair on the child? Let's be honest, kids with same sex parents are almost guaranteed to come across bullying because of it, then you've got the possible problem of a child growing up thinking that being in a same sex relationship is the correct way to be "because that's what Daddy(s)/ Mammy(s) do so it must be right.

Kids get bullied for wearing glasses, should parents with glasses not be alowed to have kids as there is an increased chance they will need them.
What about fat parents?
This a problem for the parents of the children doing the bullying, they need to raise their kids to be respectful.
Others should not be limited in what they can do due to someone elses inability to teach theiri child right from wrong.

Iano_128 wrote: »

, then you've got the possible problem of a child growing up thinking that being in a same sex relationship is the correct way to be "because that's what Daddy(s)/ Mammy(s) do so it must be right.You also have the possible problem of kids of same sex couples going over to friends houses and being confused when they see a man and woman together.

A child being confused?
Option A: remove all sources of confusion and thought stimulation
Option B: educate the child that sometimes a man loves a woman and sometime a man loves a man etc.

PizzamanIRL · 22-07-2013 04:10PM

Corkfeen wrote: »

Firstly, nobody chooses to be gay. Secondly, there's no evidence that children raised by gay parents have any different a childhood to any other child. They're as good parents as anyone else.

Im not saying the parents are bad, im saying they will be bullied or ridiculed when people find out and the child will feel odd when he sees his friends have a mother and father.

What are ye're views on gay adoption?

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