A Wise Man's Fear

AnCapaillMor · 29-08-2012 10:32am

The dude who used to call over and play tac with in severin.

Corcaigh84 · 29-08-2012 10:45am

Might be a bit OT but I'm looking for a reason to read books 2&3 of this series. My sister raved about Name of the Wind (she's not a big fantasy reader) so I read it to check it out.

It seemed to me like one of the most clichéd, predictable and boring fantasy novels I'd ever come across. Has anyone else been disappointed with the first but kept reading?

ixoy · 29-08-2012 11:03am

thefloss wrote: »

Might be a bit OT but I'm looking for a reason to read books 2&3 of this series. My sister raved about Name of the Wind (she's not a big fantasy reader) so I read it to check it out.

It seemed to me like one of the most clichéd, predictable and boring fantasy novels I'd ever come across. Has anyone else been disappointed with the first but kept reading?

I'm surprised you thought that - I wouldn't have called it clichéd and thought it was a very good character piece with particularly strong writing. The plot itself is not highly original but the execution is top notch and that's coming from someone who reads far too much of the genre and would count myself as a big fantasy reader.

If you therefore didn't like it then there's no point in reading book 2 and absolutely no point in reading book 3 (who knows when it'll be published).

Corcaigh84 · 29-08-2012 11:18am

ixoy wrote: »

I'm surprised you thought that - I wouldn't have called it clichéd and thought it was a very good character piece with particularly strong writing. The plot itself is not highly original but the execution is top notch and that's coming from someone who reads far too much of the genre and would count myself as a big fantasy reader.

If you therefore didn't like it then there's no point in reading book 2 and absolutely no point in reading book 3 (who knows when it'll be published).

Thanks, maybe clichéd is a bit strong but as soon as it started with the 'young boy discovers his super powers' I just thought here we go again

I'm very bad at articulating exactly what I don't like about a book/film, but I'd have to disagree about the strong writing part... character piece it may be, but the way he went on and on about the love interest in Book 1 made me feel like I was reading a teenage romance novel.

I guess I just prefer the style of someone like GRRM - more realistic romance hahah

sxt · 29-08-2012 8:59pm

thefloss wrote: »

Thanks, maybe clichéd is a bit strong but as soon as it started with the 'young boy discovers his super powers' I just thought here we go again

I'm very bad at articulating exactly what I don't like about a book/film, but I'd have to disagree about the strong writing part... character piece it may be, but the way he went on and on about the love interest in Book 1 made me feel like I was reading a teenage romance novel.

I guess I just prefer the style of someone like GRRM - more realistic romance hahah

I agree with you thefloss , It was like it was written by someone trying to relive his college days in a fantasy format . Very cliched and predictable like you said with one dimensional characters .

Zapp Brannigan · 29-08-2012 9:25pm

The only real problem I have with Rothfuss is his use of the unreliable narrator. His style, I find intriguing though. I honestly can say he probably is one of the best fantasy writers knocking around right now (all in my opinion of course)

AnCapaillMor · 03-09-2012 9:37am

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

The only real problem I have with Rothfuss is his use of the unreliable narrator. His style, I find intriguing though. I honestly can say he probably is one of the best fantasy writers knocking around right now (all in my opinion of course)

Yeah i agree on kvothe telling the story, it wil be interesting to see where he goes with it, it could be a total u-turn in that he's not all he's made himself up to be, or characters might not be as bad or as good as he makes them to be; ambrose could be a saint. Using the hero as the narrator has it plusses though, we're picking up on things that he misses.

what i love is the hints he leaves and alot of stuff can have double or even triple meanings, the lackless poem for instance.

Agree on the romance, on the first read, but the more you read, and read between the lines it's great. On first read i really disliked the romance and it's main protagonist but on subsequent reads, she's possibly one of the best female characters i've seen in a fantasy book.

Pity he's so bloody slow, he told goodreads to take down the 2013 release date, anyone who thought it would be out then is crazy.

Trojan · 19-07-2013 5:46pm

I see Rothfuss has a TV deal with Fox.

Zapp Brannigan · 19-07-2013 6:17pm

Fox have an option, that's all. It might never happen, and tbh if it does I don't have high hopes for it.

Now if HBO had gotten it...

Nody · 19-07-2013 7:07pm

And sadly book three is pushed to 2014

OwaynOTT · 19-07-2013 7:19pm

Nody wrote: »

And sadly book three is pushed to 2014

Expect it in 2016.

Nody · 19-07-2013 9:26pm

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Expect it in 2016.

As it's already written (unlike several fantasy authors who went and died in the middle or looks likely to die before finishing the series) I'm a bit more optimistic.

RoboAmish · 19-07-2013 9:28pm

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Expect it in 2016.

Heh.

Was there ever any rumblings it would be released this year? 2014 always seemed more likely.

Fluorescence · 19-07-2013 10:49pm

RoboAmish wrote: »

Heh.

Was there ever any rumblings it would be released this year? 2014 always seemed more likely.

Nah I saw an interview with Pat late last year and he was saying 2014 at the earliest. I don't mind waiting if it means a superlative product though.

Anyone else here get in on the Name of The Wind playing cards kickstarter? I ordered 2 packs of cards, a poster and a set of talent pipes. Feels like plenty to tide me over in the meantime :cool: :pac:

:pac:

OwaynOTT · 20-07-2013 2:05am

Nody wrote: »

As it's already written (unlike several fantasy authors who went and died in the middle or looks likely to die before finishing the series) I'm a bit more optimistic.

Sure wasn't it all already written.

nesf · 20-07-2013 2:25am

Nody wrote: »

As it's already written (unlike several fantasy authors who went and died in the middle or looks likely to die before finishing the series) I'm a bit more optimistic.

It depends on what's meant by written. There is a large gulf in effort and time between a very detailed outline and the actual manuscript.

ixoy · 20-07-2013 12:47pm

nesf wrote: »

It depends on what's meant by written. There is a large gulf in effort and time between a very detailed outline and the actual manuscript.

Rothfuss is a perfectionist as well. I remember reading how he'll go over each word he's written multiple times, writing, re-writing and tweaking. It'll take him a lot longer to write a page than other writers would. And that's before it even gets to his editor which will in turn mean further re-writes.

Trojan · 20-07-2013 1:28pm

ixoy wrote: »

Rothfuss is a perfectionist as well. I remember reading how he'll go over each word he's written multiple times, writing, re-writing and tweaking. It'll take him a lot longer to write a page than other writers would. And that's before it even gets to his editor which will in turn mean further re-writes.

I wish he'd given the same attention to the plot as he did to the language.

RoboAmish · 20-07-2013 10:29pm

Fluorescence wrote: »

Nah I saw an interview with Pat late last year and he was saying 2014 at the earliest. I don't mind waiting if it means a superlative product though.

Anyone else here get in on the Name of The Wind playing cards kickstarter? I ordered 2 packs of cards, a poster and a set of talent pipes. Feels like plenty to tide me over in the meantime :cool: :pac: :pac:

In fairness, I'd actually really like a set of talent pipes.

Fluorescence · 20-07-2013 11:04pm

RoboAmish wrote: »

In fairness, I'd actually really like a set of talent pipes.

They're really cool. There's a couple of varieties on the tinkerspack IIRC

Son0vagun · 22-07-2013 7:50am

Rothfuss it's seems he has had a bit of a backlash for fans on Facebook. A lot of fans not happy with the news he has sold the rights to FOX. I'd be worried too, FOX don't make good tv. Hopefully Rothfuss will have a lot of input.

Nody · 22-07-2013 8:48am

Son0vagun wrote: »

Rothfuss it's seems he has had a bit of a backlash for fans on Facebook. A lot of fans not happy with the news he has sold the rights to FOX. I'd be worried too, FOX don't make good tv. Hopefully Rothfuss will have a lot of input.

No Fox can make good shows but cancel them in the middle or show them in the wrong order (Futurama, Firefly etc.).

RoboAmish · 22-07-2013 7:09pm

I thought that this was only been optioned for TV? Fox have the rights but I'd be very surprised if it actually did come to fruition.

I actually wouldn't be too hard on Rothfuss here, for once. It was never going to be an option for HBO; firstly, because there is no way HBO even with all their infinite wealth and all that jazz would never be willing to have two expensive fantasy shows on the go and secondly, there's not the requisite amount of, ahem, sexual material (well, yeah yeah, other than the Felurian detour- but other than that the things pretty much PG at worst) and violence to make up their quota. It was always going to be a network and they're all much of a muchness really. Whether it's ABC, NBC or Fox, it's all the same methinks. It will be all about ratings... the reality is GOT would have been cancelled if it was on any of the Networks instead of cable, given how sluggish its ratings were early on.

I guess the key is to keep costs down and I'd assume they can do that fairly easily. It's a fairly intimate series with fewer locations and a small enough cast. My biggest fear is that I think this whole thing came out of Fox executives seeing GOT's success, wanting a slice of the pie and then scanning the bestseller lists to find another popular fantasy series. The show will ultimately need a strong artistic voice other than the author like GOT has Benioff and Weiss.

ixoy · 22-07-2013 9:34pm

RoboAmish wrote: »

I thought that this was only been optioned for TV? Fox have the rights but I'd be very surprised if it actually did come to fruition.

Exactly - there's a huge difference between being optioned and actually going into production. All this means is that FOX can choose to make it if they want to but nobody else can do so until that option expires. Happens with other fantasy TV series as well.

Zapp Brannigan · 22-07-2013 9:52pm

ixoy wrote: »

Exactly - there's a huge difference between being optioned and actually going into production. All this means is that FOX can choose to make it if they want to but nobody else can do so until that option expires. Happens with other fantasy TV series as well.

Yup AFAIK The Gentlemen Bastards have been optioned for a long time with no sign of any series coming.

Nody · 23-07-2013 7:48am

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Yup AFAIK The Gentlemen Bastards have been optioned for a long time with no sign of any series coming.

I'd have thought this would make an excellent tv show; enough fantasy/magic to add a touch but close enough to "reality" to not need a ton of cgi.

RoboAmish · 23-07-2013 9:29pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Yup AFAIK The Gentlemen Bastards have been optioned for a long time with no sign of any series coming.

Last I heard it was a film adaptation that was supposed to be in the works, not a TV series. I think Warner Brothers has the rights.

Lies would make an amazing film in fairness, it's pretty much a blockbuster in book form as it is.

AnCapaillMor · 24-07-2013 8:17am

Hope it's a film because if it's a TV show i'm picturing something really cheesy like xena or legend of the seeker.

Nody · 24-07-2013 8:59am

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

Hope it's a film because if it's a TV show i'm picturing something really cheesy like xena or legend of the seeker.

I think you could easily make a standard 10/15 episode series out of each book. Center it around the pub; throw in some mandatory filler stories (i.e. love story, disgruntled father/husband going after a certain assistent etc.) and you'd be grand (44 min per episode; 5 min intro, 3 min closure and mandatory 5 to 10 min in the pub puts you at around 25 to 30 min to advance the story each episode).

IRL_Sinister · 24-10-2013 8:35pm

Sorry for bumping this thread but I can't wait for book three and I just came across this very rare tweet from rothfuss himself

http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/fantasy-casting-the-name-of-the-wind-tv-show

Sorry for format; on phone.

mcgovern · 24-10-2013 8:45pm

IRL_Sinister wrote: »

Sorry for bumping this thread but I can't wait for book three and I just came across this very rare tweet from rothfuss himself

http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/fantasy-casting-the-name-of-the-wind-tv-show

Sorry for format; on phone.

That's not a tweet from him?

IRL_Sinister · 24-10-2013 10:34pm

mcgovern wrote: »

That's not a tweet from him?

Don't know how to embed tweets so....

https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=393435682028269568&original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FPatrickRothfuss&tw_i=393435682028269568&tw_p=tweetembed

Fluorescence · 25-10-2013 12:09pm

There's actually 6 Pat Rothfuss twitter accounts right now - it's a competition organised by Pat himself for people to vote on which one is the real Rothfuss. So I'd take anything said on twitter with a huge bucketful of salt :P

AnCapaillMor · 25-10-2013 12:30pm

The guy who wrote the article must be a namer. An actor named redmayne as the main character. Doesn't tweet much be he's around on the net, he's an admin on the rothfussians group on goodreads and pops in every now and then.

IRL_Sinister · 25-10-2013 4:14pm

Fluorescence wrote: »

There's actually 6 Pat Rothfuss twitter accounts right now - it's a competition organised by Pat himself for people to vote on which one is the real Rothfuss. So I'd take anything said on twitter with a huge bucketful of salt :P

Today I learned. Thank you.

Donielad · 05-12-2021 1:59am

Jesus 2014....it's 2021, think it's time to move on. PF is a dick

Donielad · 05-12-2021 1:59am

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