The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

Lemlin · 01-07-2013 10:44PM

Tom Joad wrote: »

I meant for next year re Conroy and Reilly..

Yeah it would be seen as a damp squib kind of end to the year if we lost to Fermanagh.

I don't know even about next year for them. I think they'd be involved more this year if that was the plan.

I would of liked to see a new county at Breffni or even a trip to a new county for a bit of novelty as well.

cavan4sam · 02-07-2013 01:02PM

one very disappointed blue here !!!

yeah a trip down the country would have been nice !! but a trip to clones on the 21st would have been much nicer

bitterly disappointed with the result on saturday night
fuming with that sh1tebag marty duffy what a bottler ,

unfortunately my fears around our keeper became reality but we were found out all over the field so its not all down to him

we can take some positives from the game like the never say die attitude but we seriously lack a plan B

i have my doubts about beating Fermanagh but once again we will go to breffni full of hope and expectation

why will we do this you may well ask ??

Because we are cavan and thats just the way we roll !!!

AnCabhanAbu

02-07-2013 08:08PM

cavan4sam wrote: »

one very disappointed blue here !!!

yeah a trip down the country would have been nice !! but a trip to clones on the 21st would have been much nicer

bitterly disappointed with the result on saturday night
fuming with that sh1tebag marty duffy what a bottler ,

unfortunately my fears around our keeper became reality but we were found out all over the field so its not all down to him

we can take some positives from the game like the never say die attitude but we seriously lack a plan B

i have my doubts about beating Fermanagh but once again we will go to breffni full of hope and expectation

why will we do this you may well ask ??

Because we are cavan and thats just the way we roll !!!

AnCabhanAbu

Why did we need a plan B? We were right in the game up to the final whistle and were perhaps unlucky not to get a draw. Surely plan B would only be implemented when Plan A isn't working. We were right in the mix to win the game so that wasn't the case.

Tom Joad · 02-07-2013 08:40PM

cavan4sam wrote: »

one very disappointed blue here !!!

bitterly disappointed with the result on saturday night
fuming with that sh1tebag marty duffy what a bottler ,

unfortunately my fears around our keeper became reality but we were found out all over the field so its not all down to him

Think this is a bit OTT to be honest - we were the kick of a ball away from an Ulster final.

then on one hand you blame the ref, then the keeper and then we were found out all over the field

1. Ref also didn't give Monaghan a goal/ penalty so blaming the ref is not on and I think Duffy is a clown of a ref. But I do think that the ref had his wrong decision in mind and was never going to give us the traditional soft free (or in this case legitimate free) to level the game.

2. Keeper made a silly mistake - he'll learn from it. He also nailed a free-kick - its between himself and O'Mara for number 1 spot for me.

3. We weren't found out all over the field - we lost by a point and baring the goal we were battering them in the first half and could have been out of sight.

cavan4sam · 02-07-2013 10:53PM

Tom Joad wrote: »

Think this is a bit OTT to be honest - we were the kick of a ball away from an Ulster final.

then on one hand you blame the ref, then the keeper and then we were found out all over the field

1. Ref also didn't give Monaghan a goal/ penalty so blaming the ref is not on and I think Duffy is a clown of a ref. But I do think that the ref had his wrong decision in mind and was never going to give us the traditional soft free (or in this case legitimate free) to level the game.

2. Keeper made a silly mistake - he'll learn from it. He also nailed a free-kick - its between himself and O'Mara for number 1 spot for me.

3. We weren't found out all over the field - we lost by a point and baring the goal we were battering them in the first half and could have been out of sight.

The monaghan goal\peno was in the 1st 5 mins so it wasn't a game changer in my opinion the last free was !

it's getting to be a habit for the keeper o'meara is the better keeper and should be in goals .we needed to bring on a bit of muscle to match monaghan we didn't have it !

We need to start to be more clinical and build on leads rather than surrender them .

We have a young squad and hopefully we learn from it

Lemlin · 03-07-2013 10:08AM

cavan4sam wrote: »

The monaghan goal\peno was in the 1st 5 mins so it wasn't a game changer in my opinion the last free was !

it's getting to be a habit for the keeper o'meara is the better keeper and should be in goals .we needed to bring on a bit of muscle to match monaghan we didn't have it !

We need to start to be more clinical and build on leads rather than surrender them .

We have a young squad and hopefully we learn from it

Corr isn't fit. He would have provided some of the muscle. The same goes for McKiernan. People forget we are missing our two first choice midfielders. Givney is playing there but he wasn't first choice in the league.

I also think Niall Smith is a big loss. He'd be fantastic to have to throw on for the last twenty minutes to run at the opposition. Mackey was doing it but he was easy for Monaghan to target and block out. If we had two lads doing it, it would have helped.

As for the two 'keepers, I very much think its neck and neck. O'Meara had the jersey and lost it so it's Gilsenen's now to keep. I can't see it being changed for the next game.

In fairness, if we want to use short kick outs, I think the backs have to be prepared for them and looking for the possession. There wasn't exactly a huge amount of players calling for the ball each time Gilsenan was taking a kick out. Compare that to the Fermanagh players in the Fermanagh game. The ball was straight back out to a Fermanagh player each time.

I think the bottom line is that Monaghan's experience won out on the day. You can't compare like for like with Monaghan and Cavan. Cavan are a team who hadn't won two ties in the Ulster championship in twelve years. Monaghan are a team going into their third Ulster final in six years. For us, it's a novelty just to actually play 4 championship games this year. It's the first time since 2005.

I do rate the U21s but I think people are getting a bit carried away after the wins. I see over on the Hogan Stand (which I should probably ignore) the usual culprits are out blaming the management and calling for change. Yes lads, because we're onto our fifth manager since 2005 changing the manager is definitely the right tactic!

Crash Bang Wall · 03-07-2013 04:02PM

Tom Joad wrote: »

Think this is a bit OTT to be honest - we were the kick of a ball away from an Ulster final.

then on one hand you blame the ref, then the keeper and then we were found out all over the field

1. Ref also didn't give Monaghan a goal/ penalty so blaming the ref is not on and I think Duffy is a clown of a ref. But I do think that the ref had his wrong decision in mind and was never going to give us the traditional soft free (or in this case legitimate free) to level the game.

2. Keeper made a silly mistake - he'll learn from it. He also nailed a free-kick - its between himself and O'Mara for number 1 spot for me.

3. We weren't found out all over the field - we lost by a point and baring the goal we were battering them in the first half and could have been out of sight.

Marty Duffy was terrible. Dessie Mone should have been yellow carded in the first half. Mackey was blocked of so many times its not funny. He should have given Monaghan a penalty. He should have sent off that sub who hit Rory Dunne. Oh, and in the second half he pulled Mackey for over carrying when he took 2 steps, yet the keeper took at least 8 steps and it was play on.

Monaghan to their credit defended well......Dunne didnt get a sniff, and Keating had to work very hard to get any possession. Then, IMO, he ruined it by aimless shooting. Was impressed with Clarke and McDermott, and thought Dunne should have been replaced earlier. Tierney couldnt have done any worse.

We missed scoreable chances also, so there is plenty to improve on. Its just a pity that so many times going forward it was corner backs instaed of attackers who were given loads of room. I noticed a few times McLoughlin went on solo runs with nobody near him until the 45m line. Id like to think if it was McDermott or Mackey running it may have forced the defence out leaving a bit more space for the inside forwards.

Hopefully home advantage will swing it for us but Fermanagh will be flying after an impressive win against Westmeath

Lemlin · 03-07-2013 09:33PM

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Marty Duffy was terrible. Dessie Mone should have been yellow carded in the first half. Mackey was blocked of so many times its not funny. He should have given Monaghan a penalty. He should have sent off that sub who hit Rory Dunne. Oh, and in the second half he pulled Mackey for over carrying when he took 2 steps, yet the keeper took at least 8 steps and it was play on.

Monaghan to their credit defended well......Dunne didnt get a sniff, and Keating had to work very hard to get any possession. Then, IMO, he ruined it by aimless shooting. Was impressed with Clarke and McDermott, and thought Dunne should have been replaced earlier. Tierney couldnt have done any worse.

We missed scoreable chances also, so there is plenty to improve on. Its just a pity that so many times going forward it was corner backs instaed of attackers who were given loads of room. I noticed a few times McLoughlin went on solo runs with nobody near him until the 45m line. Id like to think if it was McDermott or Mackey running it may have forced the defence out leaving a bit more space for the inside forwards.

Hopefully home advantage will swing it for us but Fermanagh will be flying after an impressive win against Westmeath

I've seen a few people make the point re Dunne but I'm not sure taking off your most in-form forward is the way to go personally.

Joe Brolly recently told a story how Jim McGuinness said he could have taken McFadden off in every league game but would never sub him. Why? Because he's their main scorer.

Dunne is the big name for Cavan this year and going into the weekend was second top scorer in the championship. Pulling him off early would have given Monaghan a huge boost to see they had foiled Cavan's "star" forward (the view of the media, not my own).

Dunne could also have been pulled in either of the past games but he came good in both so I'm sure Terry said he'd continue to give him a chance. He didn't have a good day at the office but it's his debut season let's not forget.

Crash Bang Wall · 04-07-2013 10:43AM

Lemlin wrote: »

I've seen a few people make the point re Dunne but I'm not sure taking off your most in-form forward is the way to go personally.

Joe Brolly recently told a story how Jim McGuinness said he could have taken McFadden off in every league game but would never sub him. Why? Because he's their main scorer.

Dunne is the big name for Cavan this year and going into the weekend was second top scorer in the championship. Pulling him off early would have given Monaghan a huge boost to see they had foiled Cavan's "star" forward (the view of the media, not my own).

Dunne could also have been pulled in either of the past games but he came good in both so I'm sure Terry said he'd continue to give him a chance. He didn't have a good day at the office but it's his debut season let's not forget.

The way I see it with Dunne is this. Hes small and light and there will be days were he will be physically bullied and you have to accept that. Add that to the fact that he generally scores a few but misses a few. The way I seen it last Sat was he wasnt getting on the ball. If he was on the ball a lot and was missing chances I would more than likely have left him on....strange as that may seem because he is always likely to get one and then the confidence kicks in. But he wasnt getting on the ball, so I would have liked to have seen Tierney given 15 mins or so. He would have brought something else to the table, definitely wouldnt have been bullied, and in terms of Monaghan, he would be a relative unknown quantity to them.

Talking to one of the players this week, he was more disappointed that Cavan let Monaghan into the game, than anything else, although it was pretty obvious he was upset with the last minute decision to let the keeper take a mini hike with the ball.

Anyway, lets home we can regroup and make home advantage count against Fermanagh

Tom Joad · 04-07-2013 11:05AM

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

The way I see it with Dunne is this. Hes small and light and there will be days were he will be physically bullied and you have to accept that. Add that to the fact that he generally scores a few but misses a few. The way I seen it last Sat was he wasnt getting on the ball. If he was on the ball a lot and was missing chances I would more than likely have left him on....strange as that may seem because he is always likely to get one and then the confidence kicks in. But he wasnt getting on the ball, so I would have liked to have seen Tierney given 15 mins or so. He would have brought something else to the table, definitely wouldnt have been bullied, and in terms of Monaghan, he would be a relative unknown quantity to them.

Would agree with all of that

Lemlin · 04-07-2013 12:30PM

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

The way I see it with Dunne is this. Hes small and light and there will be days were he will be physically bullied and you have to accept that. Add that to the fact that he generally scores a few but misses a few. The way I seen it last Sat was he wasnt getting on the ball. If he was on the ball a lot and was missing chances I would more than likely have left him on....strange as that may seem because he is always likely to get one and then the confidence kicks in. But he wasnt getting on the ball, so I would have liked to have seen Tierney given 15 mins or so. He would have brought something else to the table, definitely wouldnt have been bullied, and in terms of Monaghan, he would be a relative unknown quantity to them.

Talking to one of the players this week, he was more disappointed that Cavan let Monaghan into the game, than anything else, although it was pretty obvious he was upset with the last minute decision to let the keeper take a mini hike with the ball.

Anyway, lets home we can regroup and make home advantage count against Fermanagh

Is Tierney not playing in the half back line for Ballyhaise though this year? I saw mention of it in the Celt one week.

I agree Dunne is liable to be pushed around and, before this year, I was as big a critic of his as anyone's but the game was never drifting away from us that we needed to make drastic changes.

Dunne was still our top scorer and in a tight game like that, where there's constantly a point in it, he's the man will get that point. He did it against Fermanagh two weeks before and, in fairness to the lad, his confidence doesn't seem to drop after a few misses.

I still think we need to sort out a regular free taker. Niall McDermott took two fantastic frees so he should be taking more if you ask me. I was also impressed with Gilsenen's free at the end.

Crash Bang Wall · 05-07-2013 11:00AM

Lemlin wrote: »

Is Tierney not playing in the half back line for Ballyhaise though this year? I saw mention of it in the Celt one week.

I agree Dunne is liable to be pushed around and, before this year, I was as big a critic of his as anyone's but the game was never drifting away from us that we needed to make drastic changes.

Dunne was still our top scorer and in a tight game like that, where there's constantly a point in it, he's the man will get that point. He did it against Fermanagh two weeks before and, in fairness to the lad, his confidence doesn't seem to drop after a few misses.

I still think we need to sort out a regular free taker. Niall McDermott took two fantastic frees so he should be taking more if you ask me. I was also impressed with Gilsenen's free at the end.

It looks like McD takes them from one side and Dunne from the other. Dunne has not been reliable so would have no problem with Mackey taking them, as I believe he is free taker for his club. No idea where Tiernet plays at club football but he is a natural forward. I see the point re Dunne being top scorer etc, but I felt he was just a passenget at times on Sat. And there was one ball into him where he had a yard or two advantage on his man, and the corner back coasted past him as if he wasnt there. McGuinness wont take off McFadden, but hes proven at the top level, and he wont be bullied. Dunne is a novice at this level, and is liable to be bullied by anyone. That was the case against Monaghan and he should have been replaced. He could even have been taken off and come back on

Lemlin · 11-07-2013 10:45AM

No team named and only 48 hours to the game.

Unusual for this year as Hyland has been naming his teams on Tuesday nights for Championship games but apparently a good few lads are carrying knocks.

Rory Dunne appears to be the latest casualty. McEnroe should be back I'm hearing. As should Jack Brady.

Mossie Corr should also be nearing fitness but I can't see him starting. A real pity because his physicality has been badly missing if you ask me.

Tom Joad · 12-07-2013 09:06AM

Still no sign of a team but all sorts off stories about injuries which may explain the delay in naming the team - or is Terry playing Canavan at his own game.

Vital that Rory Dunne is fit and starting - has been immense all year - its going to be tight and I won't be surprised if it goes to extra time tomorrow night.

Lemlin · 12-07-2013 10:35AM

Tom Joad wrote: »

Still no sign of a team but all sorts off stories about injuries which may explain the delay in naming the team - or is Terry playing Canavan at his own game.

Vital that Rory Dunne is fit and starting - has been immense all year - its going to be tight and I won't be surprised if it goes to extra time tomorrow night.

I think the main problem is that Canavan has the benefit of the Monaghan game. Monaghan kept Keating and Dunne tightly marshalled and Canavan knows exactly what he needs to do now. The two of them were getting the lion's share of Cavan's scores so there's a problem if they don't perform.

The other forward we'd rely on is Jack Brady but he hasn't been right all year if you ask me. He's badly in need of a rest. He's been involved with the U21s and seniors for three years straight now, plus club football with Ramor and Sigerson and freshers football with DCU.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a few changes tomorrow night. Mark McKeever may start for what could be his last game in a Cavan jersey if the rumours I'm hearing are true.

Tom Joad · 12-07-2013 02:29PM

Seen as we have no team selection to talk about and nothings leaking out of the camp... will leave this hear - one of the funniest things I've seen in a while...

http://balls.ie/gaa/ollie-murphy-v-larry-reilly-for-the-terry-phelan-hall-of-fame/

My personal favourites... as to why Larry was better than Ollie Murphy, Pele and Maradona.

:D

Larry Reilly defies physics, no man weighing fifteen stone could be that fast.

There’d be no point in ringing Maradona if you had a pipe leaking.

Larry Reilly says shin gaurds are for babies.

You always hear players being branded ’the new Maradona’, or ’the new Pele’. You’ll never hear anyone being called ’the new Larry’. You know why?…Because there’ll only ever be one Larry Reilly. -

12-07-2013 05:53PM

Lemlin wrote: »

I think the main problem is that Canavan has the benefit of the Monaghan game. Monaghan kept Keating and Dunne tightly marshalled and Canavan knows exactly what he needs to do now. The two of them were getting the lion's share of Cavan's scores so there's a problem if they don't perform.

The other forward we'd rely on is Jack Brady but he hasn't been right all year if you ask me. He's badly in need of a rest. He's been involved with the U21s and seniors for three years straight now, plus club football with Ramor and Sigerson and freshers football with DCU.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a few changes tomorrow night. Mark McKeever may start for what could be his last game in a Cavan jersey if the rumours I'm hearing are true.

I don't think the Monaghan game will have been that much help to Canavan. He tried to do what Monaghan did to Keating and Dunne, the only problem was he didn't have the players to do the job as well as Monaghan did. They may make a better attempt tomorrow evening though. It's highly doubtful that Fermanagh will go 20 odd minutes without scoring so we'll need to come out of ourselves a bit more. We need to go for the jugular and get a goal at some stage if we're going to win, Terry is all about the patience and just keeping your nose in front which is grand but a little more killer instinct when the opportunity arises is needed. 1 goal in 3 Championship games isn't a good return.

If McKeever is considering jacking it in then perhaps that is why Terry hasn't given him any game time, no point in putting in a lad that will soon be gone when you're trying to build a team for the next few years.

willabur · 12-07-2013 06:52PM

no time for sentimentality. If mckeever reckons that the return is not equal to the cost of commitment then maybe he should walk on with our best wishes.

Would be a bummer to lose to Fermanagh tomorrow, this is one of the drawbacks of the qualifier system. You should only run into the same team once before the all-ireland series i.e. 1/4 final onwards. The game will be tight again, agree totally about the need for goals. We need someone breaking from deep to draw the defender out in order to get these chances. Mackey did exactly this against armagh. In Gearoid we are missing that powerhouse bursting through the middle of the opponents defence creating overlaps etc.

Tom Joad · 12-07-2013 09:43PM

Agree re McKeever - great servant to Cavan football and must be frustrating to him not getting championship time after being a starter throughout the league. I know he missed a game when he was travelling but was in great form during the league. But its a young mans game with the huge commitment involved and would only wish him the best - he has nothing to prove to anyone.

A goal could win the game alright and it something we haven't done much off - creating goal chances - lets hope that changes tomorrow night.

Lemlin · 12-07-2013 09:44PM

Normal team named anyway.

1. Conor Gilsenan (Bailieborough Shamrocks)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Rory Dunne (Redhills)
4. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
5. James McEnroe (Ramor United)
6. Alan Clarke (Kingscourt) Captain
7. Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan)
8. Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet)
9. David Givney (Mountnugent)
10. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
11. Jack Brady (Ramor United)
12. Feargal Flanagan (Butlersbridge)
13. Niall McDermott (Ballinagh)
14. Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels)
15. Eugene Keating (Saint Sylvesters)

Tom Joad · 12-07-2013 09:47PM

Lemlin wrote: »

Normal team named anyway.

1. Conor Gilsenan (Bailieborough Shamrocks)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Rory Dunne (Redhills)
4. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
5. James McEnroe (Ramor United)
6. Alan Clarke (Kingscourt) Captain
7. Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan)
8. Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet)
9. David Givney (Mountnugent)
10. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
11. Jack Brady (Ramor United)
12. Feargal Flanagan (Butlersbridge)
13. Niall McDermott (Ballinagh)
14. Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels)
15. Eugene Keating (Saint Sylvesters)

Not unexpected tbh - was probably put under pressure to name a team - I wonder will that be the team that takes to the field tomorrow evening.

Tom Joad · 13-07-2013 10:03PM

Just back from Breffni and a very proud Cavan man tonight. The lads were fantastic and some massive performances from McEnroe, Keating, both Flanagan's and Givney but to be honest they were all great. Never looked like losing and the goal was a touch of class from Mackey and great finish from Dunnie.

Ugly scenes at half time but from my vantage point big Quigley went in with fists flying everywhere - I thought it might have been ref he was going for. Thankfully ref made the right call and red carded him - hugely disappointed in Fermanagh as it was obvious they had targeted some Cavan players like Damien O'Reilly to get a reaction from them - embarrassing that that was the best game plan they could come up with. Ryan McCluskey throwing himself to the ground late on summed it up for me.

Anyway unchartered territory for this team now and hopefully draw will be kind to us - and please please not another Ulster team.

Lemlin · 13-07-2013 10:07PM

Great win. Fermanagh were very poor, as was the referee. He was atrocious for both teams. Will leave my commenting on him there.

The melee at half time was unfortunate but it's a farce that these two teams had to play again. As the Hogan Stand pointed out in their review of the game, familiarity breeds contempt. That's their 4th game in 12 months.

Givney was superb at midfield. Had his best game of the year. Martin Dunne took the goal well. I honestly couldn't fault any of the lads, even Maryin Reilly that was sent off. One of the "fouls" he allegedly made was far from a foul

A good draw would be nice but I can see us getting Kildare for another money spinner.

Tom Joad · 13-07-2013 10:17PM

Lemlin wrote: »

The melee at half time was unfortunate but it's a farce that these two teams had to play again. As the Hogan Stand pointed out in their review of the game, familiarity breeds contempt. That's their 4th game in 12 months.

What did you see Lemlin? Nobody around me seemed to see it but I did say straight away that Quigley wouldn't start the second half - I actually thought Canavan was going to sub him.

I though ref done ok in what was very difficult circumstances and did try to keep a lid on things.

cavan4sam · 13-07-2013 10:27PM

didnt make the game today but listened to it online ,

Great win for the lads against what it sounded like an ill disciplined Fermanagh tean

seemed to be a lot of hype about the half time handbags

hoping for a decent draw on monday morning i think wexford or galway is the best we can hope for

anyway well done to all involved tonight

no surprise with the other duffy getting carried away with cards its a trait of his i've seen him spoil many a game here in his native county

Tom Joad · 13-07-2013 10:30PM

cavan4sam wrote: »

hoping for a decent draw on monday morning i think wexford or galway is the best we can hope for

Yeah either off them at Breffni would be nice but nearly odds on to get Tyrone, Armagh or Derry :rolleyes:

Hammar · 13-07-2013 10:37PM

I thought the referee was far too fussy and card happy, Fermanagh were poor.They had no attacking plan whatsoever to break down our defensive blanket and their attempts at a blanket defence of their own was pretty dire. We won that game without playing anywhere near to our full potential in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong,there was some fantastic individual performances and some great play,(Fergal Flanagans fisted point was easily the score and move of the game and Mackeys pass into Dunne was delightful),but we went out of the game for periods and better teams will punish us for it. The good news however is that there is alot more in this team than they showed tonight.

I thought Killian Clarke,Ronan Flanagan and Alan Clarke were terrific in defence,Jason McLoughlin done a terrific job on Shane McCabe also. David Givney's fielding was outstanding,Damien Reily's workrate was as usual outstanding and his discipline in the face of disgraceful Fermanagh behaviour in trying to get a reaction from him, was top notch. Martin Reily done very well when he came on. Dunne took his goal very well and was accurate from frees, and Keating done well enough winning ball,but was again isolated at times. McVeety looked lively when he came on aswell.

Another forward option playing closer to the inside two whether that is in the form of Tierney,Jack,Martin Reily will be needed when we play better quality of opposition in the next round.

All in all, i'm very happy with a solid days work from the lads.

Lemlin · 13-07-2013 10:52PM

Tom Joad wrote: »

What did you see Lemlin? Nobody around me seemed to see it but I did say straight away that Quigley wouldn't start the second half - I actually thought Canavan was going to sub him.

I though ref done ok in what was very difficult circumstances and did try to keep a lid on things.

I was in the terrace at the other side of the field so didn't see much. What started it anyway? I was just sitting down on the concrete when it started and had to jump back up.

The delay at half time by Fermanagh was ridiculous too. Canavan is going way over the top with the attempted mind games,

Having watched them tonight, I can't see why I feared Fermanagh. They're a terrible team on that showing.

I see Hammar's comments above that a better team would punish us but I think the game was over as soon as we got the goal. We never looked under pressure from then on.

muincav · 13-07-2013 10:53PM

Well done Cavan....have to agree on all counts with Lemlin, Fermanagh were very poor and the Ref yet again was really bad for both teams. Fermanagh tried to get Cavan into the nasty stuff but it didnt work thankfully because Cavan didnt need that. Could have done with Hawkeye at the town end goal in second half (not for Gilsenans 2 misses though...lol) but for what we all thought was a point for Cavan that was given wide.
Just think Cavan can keep going another bit, but their fast close tackling has to be admired...well done again lads, proud of you all.....but Anthony Forde deserves a pat on the back for standing up for his players when the Fermanagh subs all rushed in to join the melee....

Tom Joad · 13-07-2013 11:01PM

Lemlin wrote: »

I was in the terrace at the other side of the field so didn't see much. What started it anyway? I was just sitting down on the concrete when it started and had to jump back up.

The delay at half time by Fermanagh was ridiculous too. Canavan is going way over the top with the attempted mind games,

Having watched them tonight, I can't see why I feared Fermanagh. They're a terrible team on that showing.

I see Hammar's comments above that a better team would punish us but I think the game was over as soon as we got the goal. We never looked under pressure from then on.

Like you I was just about to sit down but as I was sitting down I was looking out the field and seen Quigley (14) run in the general direction of the ref and he looked angry - I could be wrong but I thought he attempted to hit the ref - it all happened in a flash and I didn't have the best view - I was in the bottom corner of the terrace. After that it was handbags but what I think I saw was borne out by the straight red - I'm interested to hear what other people saw.

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